BOP Eruption?
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I don't see a problem. They should be allowed to fly to the island regardless. And the individuals who fly with them should also have done their research on whether the company was suitably safe or not.
Who are the government to tell them what they can and can't do?
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Six bodies out of the eight missing recovered and the team are all in one piece. A great morning's work by the team involved.
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@Donsteppa I'm so glad it went well, and they successfully recovered six bodies. Four hours of grueling work for those involved. (Interesting they say that one body might be in the water and one location unknown. Quite a contrast to the pilot who said he knew where they all were and could be there in 20 mins.)
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NZDF Colonel Rian McKinstry says an eight-person team, six men and two women, went on to the island with another eight-person team on standby to assist in case of any need. The team spent four hours on the island and were communicating via radio.
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The recovery team was comprised of members of the explosive ordinance disposal squad, Colonel McKinstry said.
A squad of six men and two women had been sent on to the island.
A second team had been on standby.
"As far as their demeanour is concerned because of the bomb disposal nature of the trade - you can take it they are very level-headed individuals."
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@NTA said in BOP Eruption?:
Divers to be deployed for the last 2?
Yep
Commissioner Bush said staff had sighted a body in the water and there had been an earlier attempt to recover that body which was unsuccessful due to weather.
"To say it was choppy would be an understatement."
...Divers are now searching the area.
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@Donsteppa said in BOP Eruption?:
NZDF Colonel Rian McKinstry says an eight-person team, six men and two women, went on to the island with another eight-person team on standby to assist in case of any need. The team spent four hours on the island and were communicating via radio.
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The recovery team was comprised of members of the explosive ordinance disposal squad, Colonel McKinstry said.
A squad of six men and two women had been sent on to the island.
A second team had been on standby.
"As far as their demeanour is concerned because of the bomb disposal nature of the trade - you can take it they are very level-headed individuals."
I wonder if those types of people allow balloons at their kids birthday parties?
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@Donsteppa said in BOP Eruption?:
NZDF Colonel Rian McKinstry says an eight-person team, six men and two women, went on to the island with another eight-person team on standby to assist in case of any need. The team spent four hours on the island and were communicating via radio.
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The recovery team was comprised of members of the explosive ordinance disposal squad, Colonel McKinstry said.
A squad of six men and two women had been sent on to the island.
A second team had been on standby.
"As far as their demeanour is concerned because of the bomb disposal nature of the trade - you can take it they are very level-headed individuals."
Sounds like it all went by the numbers. Reassuringly professional
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A little more on the medial angle regarding those who were relatively 'well' enough to be transported Trans- Ta$man
Sydney hospital prepares for two more volcano victims as injuries present challenge
Burns units around Australia are grappling with unique medical challenges as they work to care for victims of the White Island volcano eruption.
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It's been interesting reading comments about the recovery mission. I've been involved in a couple of search and rescue ops and sadly they were ultimately recoveries. I agree with the concept that you don't risk known lives to recover known dead.
I very nearly had a mid air searching for a missing plane in PNG as my mate and I figured that they would be in the same valley as it was a well known trap for new guys (which the pilot was). Unfortunately it is easy to get a bit over enthusiastic when trying to save people and can risk others - including your own life. Sadly all 10, including children were killed in that one.
As for burns - they wouldn't let me on a commercial flight for two weeks with mine and looked at medivac for me. I was lucky enough to have a doctor mate who spent an hour every morning picking the dead skin off me and cleaning the wounds until I got home to have some grafts (fortunately none are really noticeable). Along with the infections in a tropical climate it is probably safe to say she saved my life.
My own experiences have made all of this is a bit close to home for me.I feel for everybody involved.
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"Families of the deceased were growing increasingly frustrated the bodies could not be recovered. "
That's the shit that annoys me. Somebody else's life at risk so that you can get a corpse back.
Grief is an awful thing but don't inflict on somebody else's family as well.
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@Snowy said in BOP Eruption?:
"Families of the deceased were growing increasingly frustrated the bodies could not be recovered. "
That's the shit that annoys me. Somebody else's life at risk so that you can get a corpse back.
Grief is an awful thing but don't inflict on somebody else's family as well.
I don't expect the familty to be reasonable or even that rational at the moment. All the more reason for the scrumbag journalists to stop putting them on camera.
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@Kirwan Fair call, hence my comment about grief. I wouldn't be asking but I've been there so my view is probably a bit different.
50 to 60% isn't good enough to risk others. You've lost your family getting the body back won't help much. Kudos to the guys that have done it though.
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@Kirwan said in BOP Eruption?:
@Snowy said in BOP Eruption?:
"Families of the deceased were growing increasingly frustrated the bodies could not be recovered. "
That's the shit that annoys me. Somebody else's life at risk so that you can get a corpse back.
Grief is an awful thing but don't inflict on somebody else's family as well.
I don't expect the familty to be reasonable or even that rational at the moment. All the more reason for the scrumbag journalists to stop putting them on camera.
Its Pike river 2.0 . Obviously the upgrade isn't personally blaming Ardern and referring to White Island an active crime scene , the journos are behaving much the same way though.
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Re the families, to be fair I don't think Mr 20 mins helped at all in terms of their expectations. Body recovery can be tricky enough at the best of times and conditions, but this is an active volcano, and the bodies were blasted with gases and sulphuric acid and extreme heat. About the most delicate operation imaginable.
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@Mokey said in BOP Eruption?:
Re the families, to be fair I don't think Mr 20 mins helped at all in terms of their expectations. Body recovery can be tricky enough at the best of times and conditions, but this is an active volcano, and the bodies were blasted with gases and sulphuric acid and extreme heat. About the most delicate operation imaginable.
About as helpful as Winny wanking on about him going into the Pike River mine
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