Coronavirus - Overall
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@taniwharugby what is the pen for?
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@Bones said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@taniwharugby what is the pen for?
Stabbing yourself in the eye when you've had enough.
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@Virgil said in Coronavirus - Overall:
We are all under the pump mate, just over 24 hours from now NZ is locked down.
Have people been self-distancing before the lock-down?
Had a FB post from a friend in Wellington detailing all his shopping activities, saying goodbye to neighbours and picking up 3-4 friends in his van before heading up to Paraparaumu.
Is this typical?
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@Victor-Meldrew I think a good amount of people seem to be doing what they should, but I still think plenty just arent taking it seriously
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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Bones sorry, any scraps of paper, they had a note pad only, clean desk at end of day, mobile locked in a locker before work....
Sounds like LEAN. Mobiles locked away for security (the stories I could tell you....)
In insurance, we found many graduates took back-office processing jobs to get industry experience and then buggered-off shortly after being (expensively) trained. Huge churn rate and cost of training can really blow off-shore business cases out of the water.
Mrs M's son manages an international magazine distributors who have back-office operation in India & Thailand and they are in big trouble with Covid-19. Their BCP planners obviously didn't think an Asian pandemic was likely after SARS & Swine Flu.
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One of the more disturbing stories so far:
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One thing that amazes me (that shouldn't) is the different ability of teams to actually work at home.
Tech workers are outstanding at this. I've been doing a borderline tech job for two years now and have had to work from home for 1 day a week. I barely get anything done. Lots of fern time, mucking around, dealing with the kids, looking for ways to get distracted and talk to people - and I'm not really a people person.
But the real tech guys output is phenomenal when working from home. I'm talking 200% on what they do in a day in the office.
The commercial / sales guys are shit. But I think that's because most of them are borderline retarded, but can handle drinking with young traders.
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@Donsteppa fuct.
I mentioned elsewhere my wife works in aged care. One of the centres in her company (BaptistCare) was the first to report a death in Australia. In fact, she was having a management meeting the week before at that facility
She's been working from home this week and is in the home care area, so naturally there is a fuckload more to think about there. For the oldies homes you just lock it down - tho all the workers at that particular centre refuse to set foot in the place now, so government nursing staff have been engaged. They go through about 800 sets of PPE a day as each resident needs a new setup.
In home care, the staff are going into private homes and are potentially carriers or recipients. They're helping residents shower, cleaning the house, or other close care duties. Would give you the heebie-jeebies...
You've got to think some of the aged dementia wards are super high risk, and very stressful for staff.
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@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@mariner4life We offer an essential service to Hospitals. One of our smaller branches the staff have refused to work. For too long this afternoon it looked like I was going to have to drive for 6 hours then spend four weeks working my arse off at a boring job - meanwhile running everything remotely and sleeping in the office. and hoping not to get sick.
That's still a real possibility if anyone else falls over.
Lock down doesn't sound too bad.
In health service and staff refused to work -- WFT?
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@MajorRage said in Coronavirus - Overall:
But the real tech guys output is phenomenal when working from home. I'm talking 200% on what they do in a day in the office.
South African guy I was working with before my last move worked from home basically full time - when he was looking at a new property to rent the only stipulations were 4 beds and optic fibre.
But he had that addictive personality type for solving problems. 18 hours a day minimum. In fact he recently went on holiday to far north QLD and after 2 weeks there, stayed on another month (had his laptop with him) and continued working.
I'm splitting this time in the evening (2025 hrs here) with organising a new cloud platform for our team while I'm at home. Doing probably 50% more time than I would in the office.
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@pakman said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@mariner4life We offer an essential service to Hospitals. One of our smaller branches the staff have refused to work. For too long this afternoon it looked like I was going to have to drive for 6 hours then spend four weeks working my arse off at a boring job - meanwhile running everything remotely and sleeping in the office. and hoping not to get sick.
That's still a real possibility if anyone else falls over.
Lock down doesn't sound too bad.
In health service and staff refused to work -- WFT?
Yeah, I agree. I see some NZ equivalents of P45's in your future @dogmeat. Refusing to work in a crucial service right now is a sackable offence.
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@voodoo said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@NTA said in Coronavirus - Overall:
(loud, inconsiderate HR people who will spend all fucking day talking about nothing, but tell senior managers they saw you drinking a coffee for 10 minutes and what is up with that? etc).
Is that really a thing at your office??? Fucking HR time police narks watching you like a hawk?
That's extraordinary in this day and age. That's the stuff of law firms 5-10 years ago.
It still happens in law firms, mate
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@MajorRage bit more nuanced than that. One guy is solo dad another’s wife has Parkinson’s Just a shitty bunch of circumstances. Only on real Prima Donna but for now it’s sorted. I’d be surprised if I don’t spend at least some of the lockdown at the coal face somewhere else in North island. Which will not go down well in my relationship
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@junior said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@voodoo said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@NTA said in Coronavirus - Overall:
(loud, inconsiderate HR people who will spend all fucking day talking about nothing, but tell senior managers they saw you drinking a coffee for 10 minutes and what is up with that? etc).
Is that really a thing at your office??? Fucking HR time police narks watching you like a hawk?
That's extraordinary in this day and age. That's the stuff of law firms 5-10 years ago.
It still happens in law firms, mate
You can't take as many breaks as you want, provided you hit your targets?
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@voodoo said in Coronavirus - Overall:
You can't take as many breaks as you want, provided you hit your targets?
LOL not at my work.
The shit thing is, said HR fluffybunny didn't even go to MY team lead. And once it went two levels above him, it got legs.
Then when I asked my HR rep what "good optics" look like, they couldn't tell me.
More time at my desk? Less coffee breaks? Less phone calls? Less visible phone calls? Flap my arms around at my desk and wail about how busy I am?
Nope, nothing concrete as a yes or no there. Playing the game is more important than getting it done.
I am fucking hopeless at promoting myself, it must be said. And I'm one of the few technical systems guys in my new role so trying to explain stuff is difficult. Anyway, this is about COVID, so enough BS from me.
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@NTA said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Donsteppa fuct.
I mentioned elsewhere my wife works in aged care. One of the centres in her company (BaptistCare) was the first to report a death in Australia. In fact, she was having a management meeting the week before at that facility
She's been working from home this week and is in the home care area, so naturally there is a fuckload more to think about there. For the oldies homes you just lock it down - tho all the workers at that particular centre refuse to set foot in the place now, so government nursing staff have been engaged. They go through about 800 sets of PPE a day as each resident needs a new setup.
In home care, the staff are going into private homes and are potentially carriers or recipients. They're helping residents shower, cleaning the house, or other close care duties. Would give you the heebie-jeebies...
You've got to think some of the aged dementia wards are super high risk, and very stressful for staff.
My mum's in one in Auckland. Most of the staff are Asian. As an aside, rather amusing hearing one of the inmates debate with staffer if the Morioris were in NZ before the Maori!
The inmates aren't a risk to the staffers. Challenge is screening staffers and how to manage the inevitable need for some to stay away.
Hear the management are worried.
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@MajorRage said in Coronavirus - Overall:
One thing that amazes me (that shouldn't) is the different ability of teams to actually work at home.
Tech workers are outstanding at this. I've been doing a borderline tech job for two years now and have had to work from home for 1 day a week. I barely get anything done. Lots of fern time, mucking around, dealing with the kids, looking for ways to get distracted and talk to people - and I'm not really a people person.
But the real tech guys output is phenomenal when working from home. I'm talking 200% on what they do in a day in the office.
The commercial / sales guys are shit. But I think that's because most of them are borderline retarded, but can handle drinking with young traders.
I estimate I've worked from home at least 10 of the last 14 years. My productivity is far higher than when I was consulting
Some tasks are more suited to working from home. When you are writing code you get into a zone where you are very productive.. interruptions are the worst.
I've seen studies that claim it takes 15mins after each interruption to fully regain that level of concentration. That sounds about right to me.What you are talking about with 1 day WFH and 4 days in the office would be difficult too. The temptation would be to catch up during the 4 days so you wouldn't get the routine/discipline you need
Less of of an issue now..