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I think strict is the contentious word at present...Quarantine
a strict isolation imposed to prevent the spread of disease.
a period, originally 40 days, of detention or isolation imposed upon ships, persons, animals, or plants on arrival at a port or place, when suspected of carrying some infectious or contagious disease.
a system of measures maintained by governmental authority at ports, frontiers, etc., for preventing the spread of disease.
the branch of the governmental service concerned with such measures. -
@voodoo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
I hate queuing at the bar also, and have never understood why more bars don't have ordering apps.
Should be pretty easy to do really. If Air NZ can do it for coffees in their lounges then most bars should be able to manage it.
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@Snowy said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Machpants said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
I reckon the L2 limits will go to the original 100 indoors 500 out soon though,
They might have done that already. Matakana market had a 500 max rule today (according to my sister) and 100 is already in place for inside.
Miss the Black Dog brekkies in the early days!
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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Snowy yeah thats what I was alluding to, I expect they were probably looking at ways to tighten things (cull the useless ones of the Youi staff and some of thier own) and Covid have been a prime chance.
Thing is, while some insurers may have had good results over that period, not all did...plenty of cars/trucks were still stolen (I know right, people breaching lock down rules) plus were more incidents on home/contents/burglaries in business premises etc
I think some businesses have found they can operate more efficiently too (plenty from home instead of offices - we are moving into a new office building in September I think...) I know of one that operated on less staff over L3 & 2 with similar level of income...who are now restructuring
'Never waste a good crisis!'?
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@Billy-Tell said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Mokey said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
If being an island and 5m population made beating the virus so super duper easy, how come Ireland has 25k cases and over 1600 deaths?
2 different political systems on the one island with no desire to put up a physical border again
Lots of contact with the UK one of the major epicentres of the virus
Ski holidays in Italy and France at the moment the virus took off
3 hours flight gets you to multiple destinations in Europe. 3 hours flight from NZ barely gets you to Australia
Cheltenham horse races at the time the virus was taking off
Not only flights but also ferries into Ireland/NI
Population density higher in Ireland than NZ
Socialising in pubs is what the Irish do, much more so than in NZAnd so on. It's a great achievement, but don't be turning into a smug self-satisfied Kiwi now please!
Not to mention Italian rugby fans over for Six Nations. When game cancelled they just went down to Grafton St and shared their unique 'charms'!
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@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@taniwharugby I didn't see the TV report but Radio NZ had a piece this morning about how those in quarantine are complaining because they can only go outside once a day and do laps in a very small cordoned off area so they don't come into contact with any of the public. The person in quarantine thought it was sooooo unfair. I thought WTF - it's 14 fucking days - suck it up bitch.
Apparently, mentally, for someone that hasn't had to go to prison, it's not that easy.
My cousin was "ordered" back to Aussie by his employer and he had to self isolate in a designated hotel in Sydney. He said he was lucky as his friends and family were able to drop off supplies like fruit etc.
They weren't allowed out of their rooms for two weeks (even for exercise) and those that had mental breakdowns were admitted to hospital and then they were released they had to start their two weeks isolation again!
He said it was really bizarre when they got released after two weeks as it was midnight Friday and all those around him broke down in tears when they left the building.
Just from hearing that story, I imagine it isn't a doddle being cooped up in a room for two weeks where you can't open windows etc even for fresh air.
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@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Hooroo I don't imagine it is at all a doddle or pleasant. But necessary.
Also for anyone currently quarantined something they have made a conscious choice to do.
I was kind of responding to the suck it up comment. I dare say it's easy to write rather than do
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@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Hooroo I don't imagine it is at all a doddle or pleasant. But necessary.
Also for anyone currently quarantined something they have made a conscious choice to do.
I dunno. Surely ppl coming into NZ now are not doing it by choice. More likely their only option.
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Feels like we should be looking into improved options to make the 14 day quarantine as pleasant as possible. I know there is a balance with cost/scale and all that jazz. But surely we'd entice more folks here if we could find a way for people to get exercise or access to a nearby park or facility?
If this is going to be a long term endeavor then we need to improve this imo. Maybe having people located in central city isn't the best idea? Book out the Airport hotel in Akld - it's massive and has a heap of outside green space. Or something along those lines.
Hooroo, got a spare paddock or two? Lockdown B&B!!
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@Paekakboyz said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
If this is going to be a long term endeavor then we need to improve this imo. Maybe having people located in central city isn't the best idea? Book out the Airport hotel in Akld - it's massive and has a heap of outside green space. Or something along those lines.
Somewhere like this is just made for it
https://www.castaways.co.nz/Really not sure why we can't find other places like that - motels outside Auckland, etc. Bit of transport, 14 days relaxing with good food delivered, charge guests $5k or summat, and bob's your uncle.
The down side is locked doors with cameras around the place and security to make sure people aren't escaping, but that's the price of coming over the border. I think it's a no-brainer at the right price, and starts to bring in people again in a meaningful way. Set the requirements and get out of the way of people innovating to solve
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@Paekakboyz said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
improved options to make the 14 day quarantine as pleasant as possible
Turn off the parental lock on the porn channels?
@Paekakboyz said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Book out the Airport hotel in Akld - it's massive and has a heap of outside green space.
They have been using the Airport Novotel for quarantine.
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@Paekakboyz said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Feels like we should be looking into improved options to make the 14 day quarantine as pleasant as possible. I know there is a balance with cost/scale and all that jazz. But surely we'd entice more folks here if we could find a way for people to get exercise or access to a nearby park or facility?
If this is going to be a long term endeavor then we need to improve this imo. Maybe having people located in central city isn't the best idea? Book out the Airport hotel in Akld - it's massive and has a heap of outside green space. Or something along those lines.
Hooroo, got a spare paddock or two? Lockdown B&B!!
The exercise can be walking the Horses!
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@Snowy said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Paekakboyz said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
improved options to make the 14 day quarantine as pleasant as possible
Turn off the parental lock on the porn channels?
@Paekakboyz said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Book out the Airport hotel in Akld - it's massive and has a heap of outside green space.
They have been using the Airport Novotel for quarantine.
And Grand Mercure in Auckland as I think that was where one ferner was quarantined
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@Paekakboyz I guess part of the problem is in a large complex, you have people who are at say day 10 of quarantine, then new arrivals, they still need to be kept seperate...
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@Snowy said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Hooroo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
I think that was where one ferner was quarantined
Most ferners should be locked up indefinitely.
You would like that wouldn’t you.
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@Virgil said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Snowy said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Hooroo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
I think that was where one ferner was quarantined
Most ferners should be locked up indefinitely.
You would like that wouldn’t you.
Only the Polish chicks.
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