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    @ACT-Crusader will be 2².0² or somethign scary anyway

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    @nzzp said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    @Nepia said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    I actually thought that was pretty good, especially after everyone complaining about The Breakdown in the other thread.

    They asked some good questions and I thought Foxy answered them pretty well even if he was a bit agitated.

    Definitely defensive though - leading about 'you can't want the ABs to win all the time, and also want a contest - if we have a contest sometimes we lose'. I dunno, as i said, seemed very defensive and agitated.

    I got the impression he's sick of the attitude permeating NZ Rugby public that has grown accustomed to unrealistic expectations because of an outlier team even amongst the All Blacks' record.

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    @nzzp said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    @Chris-B said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    Also, we need a name for rat face Foster and his clan

    Foster, MacLeod and Plumtree. We've had the Cartel and the Zoo ... what next?

    The muppets is currently jumping out at me as a leading contender. I’ll review my thinking over the next few weeks.

    Never like to see anyone injured, so pretty shitty for Bridge but it hopefully means some exciting new talent will get plenty game time... which is a very good thing.

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    the muppets?
    Perhaps "the sponge"?
    Well it has been a dry season so far..
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/119370604/new-all-blacks-coach-ian-foster-eager-to-soak-up-the-lessons-of-rugby-world-cup-failure
    "New All Blacks coach Ian Foster eager to soak up the lessons of Rugby World Cup failure"

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    @nostrildamus almost 42 years and I have never, ever, come across the word "sward".

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    Rat faced Ferret Foster, Foxy, Plums, Clouds.
    Maybe they should be called the Fluffy bunnies!

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    Rumoured Wallaby team

    WALLABIES (likely): 15. Tom Banks 14. Filipo Daugunu 13. Hunter Paisami 12. Matt To’omua 11. Marika Koroibete 10. James O’Connor 9. Nic White 8. Harry Wilson 7. Michael Hooper (captain) 6. Ned Hanigan 5. Matt Philip 4. Lukhan Salakaia-Loto 3. Taniela Tupou 2. Brandon Paenga-Amosa 1. James Slipper.

    RESERVES: 16. Jordan Uelese 17. Scott Sio 18. Allan Alaalatoa 19. Rob Simmons 20. Liam Wright 21. Jake Gordon 22. Reece Hodge 23. Jordan Petaia.

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    I'm annoyed at the injury as I wanted to see if the selectors would pick Clarke ahead of Bridge

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    @antipodean said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    @nzzp said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    @Nepia said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    I actually thought that was pretty good, especially after everyone complaining about The Breakdown in the other thread.

    They asked some good questions and I thought Foxy answered them pretty well even if he was a bit agitated.

    Definitely defensive though - leading about 'you can't want the ABs to win all the time, and also want a contest - if we have a contest sometimes we lose'. I dunno, as i said, seemed very defensive and agitated.

    I got the impression he's sick of the attitude permeating NZ Rugby public that has grown accustomed to unrealistic expectations because of an outlier team even amongst the All Blacks' record.

    My issue is that his attitude seems to be "the NZ public has to understand ... there's a lot we're trying to do that the NZ public doesn't understand etc.". My attitude is, well explain to us what we don't know. Tell us what you're thinking is - even after the fact. Maybe then we'll be able to see why certain things were done a certain way and we'll be less critical. But, this don't ask, don't tell stuff just isn't going to cut it with a rugby public who, for the most part, know a bit about the game.

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    @junior

    That's why we actually need real journalists and some good shows that really make an attempt to break down selections and tactics. Instead we get the Breakdown.

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    @gt12 RugbyPass' Aotearoa rugby podcast is actually bloody good even though having current players isn't always ideal with these things (James Parsons, Bryn Hall).

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    @junior said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    @antipodean said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    @nzzp said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    @Nepia said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    I actually thought that was pretty good, especially after everyone complaining about The Breakdown in the other thread.

    They asked some good questions and I thought Foxy answered them pretty well even if he was a bit agitated.

    Definitely defensive though - leading about 'you can't want the ABs to win all the time, and also want a contest - if we have a contest sometimes we lose'. I dunno, as i said, seemed very defensive and agitated.

    I got the impression he's sick of the attitude permeating NZ Rugby public that has grown accustomed to unrealistic expectations because of an outlier team even amongst the All Blacks' record.

    My issue is that his attitude seems to be "the NZ public has to understand ... there's a lot we're trying to do that the NZ public doesn't understand etc.". My attitude is, well explain to us what we don't know. Tell us what you're thinking is - even after the fact. Maybe then we'll be able to see why certain things were done a certain way and we'll be less critical. But, this don't ask, don't tell stuff just isn't going to cut it with a rugby public who, for the most part, know a bit about the game.

    It’s a bit of a balance though about not revealing too much because not only are AB fans watching but the world is.

    When I look at Henry, he didn’t really give much from 04-07 RWC and people left guessing about rest and rotation and “2 AB XVs” but he seemed to adjust after the 07 disappointment and the media appearances and interviews from the cartel changed. So come 2011 there was a different feel to it all.

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    Any Aussie based Ferners heading to the Bled Lunch at the Hyatt tmrw? If so, send me a message, be good to catch up over a beer

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    @Nepia said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    @nzzp said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    Watching the Breakdown from Tuesday to see Grant Fox. He seems unusually defensive, particularly about the back selection. Very closed body language.

    Very un Fox-like I'd say. Seems agitated. Doesn't fill me with joy. He's either got shingles (and can't sit comfortably), or he's genuinely concerned.

    Fox starts about 20 minutes in

    I actually thought that was pretty good, especially after everyone complaining about The Breakdown in the other thread.

    They asked some good questions and I thought Foxy answered them pretty well even if he was a bit agitated.

    I might watch the rest of the show at some stage now.

    Foxy on ZB with D'Arcy Wed night at 19:00 ...

    ZB On Demand

    Listen from 11min 39secs.

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    Foxy was pretty fired up there wasn’t he. I like that, but it was very defensive.

    If Ardie and Bridge are out for reasons out of Fozzies control we will have no idea if he’s learned anything from the conservative selections.

    I guess we’ll find out from who gets ten. If it’s RM, then I’ll suspect he will have not changed anything.

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    @Bovidae said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    I think we've had more problems in the forwards than in the backs in recent years.

    IMHO the problem in the last few years has been a lack of collective leadership when under pressure. Leadership is easy when you are shipping 30+ points on the other side. It tends to get exposed when you're under the pump.

    The one crumb of comfort in last weeks game was last 5 minutes when we seemed to a bit more calm and collected when trying to get a winning score..

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    @Bones obscure, yes, but when put out to grass, it is mightier than the pen..

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    @nzzp said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    I suspect this is the JG/RI option. Jack to provide muscle beside Richie, strength and support lines, and Rieko to split rush defence by having amazing acceleration and footwork in a bit of space.
    Their first games together, and I think the first start in those positions for both. Can see them perservering, and getting a damn sight better (praying emoji thingy).

    Well, if that's the grand plan, then Fozzie & co. need to bloody well stick to it for more than 1 or 2 games. Not holding my breath...

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    @junior said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    @antipodean said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    @nzzp said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    @Nepia said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    I actually thought that was pretty good, especially after everyone complaining about The Breakdown in the other thread.

    They asked some good questions and I thought Foxy answered them pretty well even if he was a bit agitated.

    Definitely defensive though - leading about 'you can't want the ABs to win all the time, and also want a contest - if we have a contest sometimes we lose'. I dunno, as i said, seemed very defensive and agitated.

    I got the impression he's sick of the attitude permeating NZ Rugby public that has grown accustomed to unrealistic expectations because of an outlier team even amongst the All Blacks' record.

    My issue is that his attitude seems to be "the NZ public has to understand ... there's a lot we're trying to do that the NZ public doesn't understand etc.". My attitude is, well explain to us what we don't know. Tell us what you're thinking is - even after the fact. Maybe then we'll be able to see why certain things were done a certain way and we'll be less critical. But, this don't ask, don't tell stuff just isn't going to cut it with a rugby public who, for the most part, know a bit about the game.

    Yeah, felt his comment about how it doesn't matter which backs you pick if your forwards aren't doing the job was condescending and plain wrong. It was 16 all even with our forwards coming 2nd best in most areas, better selections in the backline could have easily swung it our way.

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    @Kirwan said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    Foxy was pretty fired up there wasn’t he. I like that, but it was very defensive.

    If Ardie and Bridge are out for reasons out of Fozzies control we will have no idea if he’s learned anything from the conservative selections.

    I guess we’ll find out from who gets ten. If it’s RM, then I’ll suspect he will have not changed anything.

    Isn’t the team selected a collective decision from a group of selectors?

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