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Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18

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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    @junior we seem to be using him more as a defensive player, then going forward he just shuffles the ball along and those outside to do something with it...that first pass that went to deck, looking at where it was, I did wonder if Jordie (he had come across hadn't he or was it BB?) was supposed to be there, seemed like a pretty decent pass to nowhere

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    @taniwharugby said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    @junior we seem to be using him more as a defensive player, then going forward he just shuffles the ball along and those outside to do something with it...that first pass that went to deck, looking at where it was, I did wonder if Jordie (he had come across hadn't he or was it BB?) was supposed to be there, seemed like a pretty decent pass to nowhere

    I reckon that was for BB coming through from 15. Watching Clarkes reaction was telling.

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    @junior JG front foot ball led to AS try. He also had the last pass on JB try and pretty sure had a hand in another. It's like he would make the perfect distributing 13.

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    @chimoaus yeah he passed 10 times to ALB's 3, and ran 4 times to ALBs 7.

    He does get through the work (which he does at 13 too) particularly as 1st or 2nd to break down to clean out and/or secure the ball

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    @junior said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    @broughie said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    @BerniesCorner I understand your appreciation Laumape but i I think he’s a one trick pony. If he diversifies his game he might be something to reckon with.

    Our current 12 looks like he no tricks, unfortunately

    By my rough count he made 3 or 4 hospital passes, that long cutout pass to nowhere, and made one nicely timed pass for his outside to score. Not great on attack

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    If Korobiete hadn't been held up, had scored what would people's opinions be of the accidental obstruction by Aussie player in front of Marike taking out the cover defender?

    Do you think try should stand or be ruled out? What do you think refs would have done?

    I think it should have been scrubbed, think refs would have allowed it as they think defenders are mere hypotheticals who they hate ...

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    @Rapido said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    If Korobiete hadn't been held up, had scored what would people's opinions be of the accidental obstruction by Aussie player in front of Marike taking out the cover defender?

    Do you think try should stand or be ruled out? What do you think refs would have done?

    I think it should have been scrubbed, think refs would have allowed it as they think defenders are mere hypotheticals who they hate ...

    It was a definite shepherd for me. Should have been called anyway. I can't believe none of the comms kicked up a fuss about it

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    @Rapido said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    If Korobiete hadn't been held up, had scored what would people's opinions be of the accidental obstruction by Aussie player in front of Marike taking out the cover defender?

    I don't like it, but refs allow it. Smart play from Wobs, obstruction inside gets play on, and creates space outside. Same with taking players out - all teams do it, we have to as well and get smarter

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    A much improved effort from the forwards. Tuipulotu took a while to get going but was much more aggressive carrying and tackling. Tu'ungafasi still looks way off the pace, as does Taylor. Coles should continue to start as he sets the tone with his niggle.

    I feel much more secure with ALB in the midfield.

    Even TJP played well. I think the less time he spends on the field the worse he performs as he becomes too keen and frantic.

    A step in the right direction now. If Moody is out for a while who is the next LH prop in the queue? Bower?

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  • RapidoR Offline
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    @nzzp said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    @Rapido said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    If Korobiete hadn't been held up, had scored what would people's opinions be of the accidental obstruction by Aussie player in front of Marike taking out the cover defender?

    I don't like it, but refs allow it. Smart play from Wobs, obstruction inside gets play on, and creates space outside. Same with taking players out - all teams do it, we have to as well and get smarter

    I hate it. I would have disallowed Korobietes try the previous week as well for the 13 making (hard) contact with defender as the pass went behind him. But, I know I'm waaaaay out on a lonely limb with this view.

    As for today, I genuinely think it was accidental, although modern players do purposely front run their support lines to get in the way. Which I agree is smart, way it is reffed these days. It wouldn't be smart to actually trip the defender, like today, smart to just be in the way.

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    @Rapido said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    If Korobiete hadn't been held up, had scored what would people's opinions be of the accidental obstruction by Aussie player in front of Marike taking out the cover defender?

    Do you think try should stand or be ruled out? What do you think refs would have done?

    I think it should have been scrubbed, think refs would have allowed it as they think defenders are mere hypotheticals who they hate ...

    I want still shots and yellow circles

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    @ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    @Rapido said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    If Korobiete hadn't been held up, had scored what would people's opinions be of the accidental obstruction by Aussie player in front of Marike taking out the cover defender?

    Do you think try should stand or be ruled out? What do you think refs would have done?

    I think it should have been scrubbed, think refs would have allowed it as they think defenders are mere hypotheticals who they hate ...

    I want still shots and yellow circles

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    When is the extended squad named for rugby championship? Thought it would be named by now

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    @broughie said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    @nzzp Yes I get your love for the Broad’s. But we have four years until World Cup and he may not be in the mix

    Is there one in 2024 as well?

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    Just been picked up from the pub. First time I've watched an AB test away from home in years

    Great game of rugby. Both teams were great.

    The scoreline flattered us, no way that was 20 points in difference.

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    @mariner4life said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    Just been picked up from the pub. First time I've watched an AB test away from home in years

    Great game of rugby. Both teams were great.

    The scoreline flattered us, no way that was 20 points in difference.

    You had me at the bolded bit

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    @kiwiinmelb said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    Just a thought , how would reiko go on the right wing ?

    Wouldn’t that give us some strike power out wide ?

    Would like to give that a crack

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  • NTAN Offline
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    @mariner4life said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    The scoreline flattered us, no way that was 20 points in difference.

    Kind of in the same mindset - my 8 point margin going out to 13 probably would have been a fair reflection given we bombed a couple of tries but 20 points it is.

    Stick it on the wall and use it as motivation:

    • 20 point loss
    • Crawling on the deck
    • Stupid maul penalties
    • Flick passes under pressure
    • Midfield box kicks to Caleb Clarke
    • Rob Fucking Simmons
    • Koroibete using KY instead of sticky spray
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  • RapidoR Offline
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    Certainly some sliding door moments for Oz, and the match.

    Dodgy Savea turnover on own line.
    Double movement no try by the hooker.
    Korobiete held up.

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    Other stuff I just thought of: our set piece improved from last week and we seemed to blunt the ABs maul - absence of Whitelock? Earlyish loss of Moody? Dunno. Anyone got an update on Moody's neck?

    Scrum was a bit back n forth with penalties each way. Each team lost 1 lineout according to stats I saw on ABC.

    Wallabies 40 missed tackles to ABs 23. Turnovers won ABs 8 - 9 Wobs. Penalties conceded ABs 9 - 8 Wobs.

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