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    @Gunner said in New Zealand v West Indies:

    @Chris-B surely Santner and Young.

    There can be no logical reason for picking Santner

    FIFY

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    Hmmmm

    Definitely don't drop Jamieson.

    My instincts tell me that best chance of wining the test is the 4 seamers plus spin/allrounder (Santner).

    My future proofing instincts tell me its a good opportunity to blood Young.

    Absolutely nothing tells me Mitchell would add much to our chances.

    The beauty of a CdG role, and Mitchell as his backup, is it allows us to play some other players we aren't 100% sure of their effectiveness for the conditions, or their test quality, or fitness to contribute over 5 days. (So, a spinner, or a tearaway).

    We don't have a tearaway (Fergusson) in the squad. So not needed to cover that.

    So, either
    6. Young
    7. Watling
    then the 4 seamers to carry almost entire bowling workload

    or
    6. Watling
    7. Santner
    then the 4 seamers to carry with Santner capable of keeping it tight, taking over bowling workload at times unsuitable for the quicks other than Wagner.

    or
    6. Watling
    7. Mitchell
    then the 4 seamers (plus Mitchell sharing workload as another medium pace seamer). I don't see much value-add.

    Mitchell has had a good start to the domestic season. Taken heaps of wickets. I don't see that really transferring to test level though on flat decks. Also got good domestic runs so far.
    I wouldn't begrudge him. Batted well on test debut last year, good against quicks. He hooks and pulls like a guy who spent his teens in Perth. He used to be very average v even domestic spin a few years ago (like 5 or 6 years ago when I formed that opinion). Haven't followed his progress to see if this is still the case.
    Great slip catcher.

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    So, I would pick Santner if I was selector. You know what you'll get. Tight overs, keeping the pressure on while Wagner is banging in the old ball at the other end. Been a cog in an extremely effective bowling attack. (but played no red ball yet this season)

    But as a fan I kind of hope they pick Young.

    No logical reason for picking Mitchell.

    I reckon they'll pick Mitchell.

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    @Rapido now that is an insight into the mind of madness lol

    I agree that they'll pick Santner - but they should absolutely go with Young.

    Taylor turning 37 this year! jaysus - I'm still nervy as hell about the ABs talent transition let alone that happening with the BCs!

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    Yeah. Jamieson changes everything for me.

    Even puts CdG place in question IMO. And, I reckon CdG bowling is awesome. Question is do we need an allrounder anymore.

    Santner's bowling in NZ has been excellent pretty darn adequate.

    He's not going to spin us to victory on the 5th day. But he's been a big part of Wagner bouncing us to victory (as has been CdG). As I'm sure Patel could be, but he effects the batting balance.

    Mitchell bowling with a 60 over old ball on a flat deck, I see as a big enough step down in quality from both CdG and Satner that I would look at a specialist batsman before him.

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    Just to complicate matters.....apparently Jamison is a handy batsman too. Possibly capable of batting 8 long term.

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    @MN5 said in New Zealand v West Indies:

    Just to complicate matters.....apparently Jamison is a handy batsman too. Possibly capable of batting 8 long term.

    After his exploits to date, I'd be happy to have Kylo Ren taking a significant part in all our teams. The guy is a total boss

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    @canefan said in New Zealand v West Indies:

    @MN5 said in New Zealand v West Indies:

    Just to complicate matters.....apparently Jamison is a handy batsman too. Possibly capable of batting 8 long term.

    After his exploits to date, I'd be happy to have Kylo Ren taking a significant part in all our teams. The guy is a total boss

    Extremely promising......but I don’t want him turning into another Doug Bracewell so let’s cool our jets a bit.

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    @MN5 said in New Zealand v West Indies:

    Just to complicate matters.....apparently Jamison is a handy batsman too. Possibly capable of batting 8 long term.

    Wouldn't be able to find it if I had tried, but I believe from an article a month or so ago, that he may have found and extra bit of pace this season too

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    Ferguson gets the wicket.

    Cripes.

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    @KiwiMurph said in NZ cricket 2020:

    Ferguson gets the wicket.

    Cripes.

    starts a proper slide.

    58-4, lost 4 wickets in 2 overs

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    58-0 becomes 58-5! Unbelievable

    Edit; review incoming

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    Ferguson ripping it up, can't believe this is the first comment tonight.

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    Scotty Stevenson is a much better cricket commentator than he is a rugby commentator

    Fergusson is absolutely fearsome.

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    @LABCAT we've been in the NZ Cricket thread

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    Bennett is a pie chucker

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    Hamish Bennett all you’re missing is the mo for the full Hitler look....

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    How did those 2 runs not be ruled dead ball? He just let the ball hit him and then they ran 2.

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    @Damo said in New Zealand v West Indies:

    How did those 2 runs not be ruled dead ball? He just let the ball hit him and then they ran 2.

    BMac and I thought the same.

    Stevenson commentating that Jamieson bowled a slower ball when it was his stock delivery. 🙄

    Just as well Ferguson is playing...

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    Highlights of a bowl off from 14 years ago with the rain delay.

    So good seeing the two legendary Chris’s ( Cairns and Gayle ) in action !!!!

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