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Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November

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    @Winger Dmac at FB

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    As frustrating as the back line 50/50s were they perhaps did their job in the game. That RG defense pattern was the best I’ve seen for 60 mins and we had to do something to make them guess. We were never going through or around them.

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    I feel a bit dirty, but did SB actually go OK at lock tonight?

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    @kpkanz said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

    @Winger Dmac at FB

    Hahaha, fuck no.

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    @antipodean He's better than Jordie

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    @antipodean said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

    @Frank said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

    Sam Cane - king of the bloodied after match photos .

    The man's a warrior.

    Be nice if he put more pressure on the ref. He just needed to say you going to check them dumping me on the head?

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    @canefan said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

    @Canes4life said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

    Nice way to finish the year. That’s more like it.

    Far from the finished article. But some promising signs

    Really like the improvement in composure & patience in this game, particularly when things weren't going their way. Far less whooping and hooping - just got on with game. Senior players deserve a lot of the credit for that.

    Really solid forward performance all-round. Backs need some serious thought. Mo'unga is just too inconsistent for me, BB's kicking didn't work out and not convinced by Goodhue at 13.

    Another plus - the JB experiment has to end now.

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    @voodoo said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

    I feel a bit dirty, but did SB actually go OK at lock tonight?

    Yes, excellent game tonight. No niggling, no stupid penalties, just carried and cleaned hard.

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    Think Tuipulotu might be better suited to the bench.

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    @KiwiMurph said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

    Think Tuipulotu might be better suited to the bench.

    Nah, he’s fine starting when fit and healthy.

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    @KiwiMurph said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

    Think Tuipulotu might be better suited to the bench.

    Yes I thought that too - with SB at lock, he was nuch more solid and composed than he ever was at 6

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    @kpkanz he’s not better than Jordie at Fullback. JB is getting a lot of stick on here, but he didnt choose to play wing. Foster’s ignorance is preventing him from getting time in his preferred position. Hope he gets more of a chance there in 2021.

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    End of the season and what have we learnt? Akira is clearly the best 6 in New Zealand. Massive effort tonight and my MoTM.

    Ardie's athleticism is a huge plus in the final quarter, but Sotutu needs to start.

    Will Jordan is a shoe-in for the right wing spot. He has the golden touch Beaudy had.

    Long term Rieko is a centre, just needs more time in SR to hone the positional awareness. Some good competition coming through too.

    At 12 the coaches need to identiify the type of player they're after because as good as Goodhue is, he doesn't distribute.

    Mo'unga is still a flat track bully.

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    Argentina would be world champions in a tackling competition. Shame thats not a fucken sport.

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    @Derpus said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

    Argentina would be world champions in a tackling competition. Shame thats not a fucken sport.

    24 missed tackles.

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    @antipodean said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

    @voodoo said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

    I feel a bit dirty, but did SB actually go OK at lock tonight?

    Yes, excellent game tonight. No niggling, no stupid penalties, just carried and cleaned hard.

    Yeah he was awesome.

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    There was a lot to like about the All Black game tonight. Patience, options, controlled aggression and set piece work. For all that people complained about the kicking in the first half, it's necessary to stop a rush defence. This sort of work pays off late in the game and it clearly did tonight.

    Admittedly the accuracy of the kicks needs work, but it's a valid strategy.

    Sam needs to work on his communication with the refs, getting in their mind about what to look at. Perhaps Fitzy could come in as a consultant.

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    Relieved that the discipline improved to satisfactory.

    Hate the kick pass ( unless Foster is recruiting Dusty Martin)

    Clean sheet always good

    Miss pick and goes, and backline moves off a lineout - then again my Nana's been gone for 4 years and I miss her too.

    Please don't let us make a habit of a decent win only following 2 shithouse defeats

    Can't believe I watched Leicester from Ta$man and an off colour Rayasi, only to see 80 minutes of Jordie Barrett being the pinnacle winger of NZ rugby

    Nice Akira. Different player without the predisposition to niggle

    Take little pride in burglaring the tri nations, if that happens.

    TJ is definitely off to Japan, yeah? Good

    Cane's papering/plastering business is going to make money in the short term.

    Not filled with hope - spent a fortune on counselling to rid me of the "powder dry" ailment/delusion and now there are still rocks under my beach towel this summer

    C+ for the AB season

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    @antipodean said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

    End of the season and what have we learnt? Akira is clearly the best 6 in New Zealand. Massive effort tonight and my MoTM.

    Ardie's athleticism is a huge plus in the final quarter, but Sotutu needs to start.

    Will Jordan is a shoe-in for the right wing spot. He has the golden touch Beaudy had.

    Long term Rieko is a centre, just needs more time in SR to hone the positional awareness. Some good competition coming through too.

    At 12 the coaches need to identiify the type of player they're after because as good as Goodhue is, he doesn't distribute.

    Mo'unga is still a flat track bully.

    I'm on board with all of that, aside from annointing Reiko at 13. I like him there, but I'm still yet to see anything that cements him above JG or PUJ, or even ALB if we insist on JG at 12.

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    @antipodean said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

    There was a lot to like about the All Black game tonight. Patience, options, controlled aggression and set piece work. For all that people complained about the kicking in the first half, it's necessary to stop a rush defence. This sort of work pays off late in the game and it clearly did tonight.

    Admittedly the accuracy of the kicks needs work, but it's a valid strategy.

    Sam needs to work on his communication with the refs, getting in their mind about what to look at. Perhaps Fitzy could come in as a consultant.

    Point taken. Didn’t mind the chip kicks as much but the cross kicks were overused.

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