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<p>Also found London to be about a 100 times safer than NZ when walking down the street at night. Palmy was bad for uni, being a short skinny white kid I was an easy target for the exact type of feral we've all run into at some point. I had to rely on my guile to get out of situations especially since I couldn't really run for shit. </p>
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<p>One of my more impressive performances I was heading back from town about 3am and was walking through that alleyway with the Celtic and I think 'All Bar 3' on it. Anyway there were 3 guys in the alleyway who looked to have just left a bar, and I could tell already by the way they were looking at me that I wasn't going past without some sort of remark or incident. Sure enough as I avoided eye contact while walking past one of them stuck out his leg to trip me up.</p>
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<p>I didn't quite go all the way down, as I was sort of expecting it, anyway the guy who tripped me made some sort of asshole comment..and I'm not sure what came over me exactly..might have been the booze, might have been some inspiration from a movie or a book I had watched/read..but I took a pretty massive gamble, looked the dickhead right in the eye and said 'Bahwa ah wah ahh ba!' (basically I was imitating what I thought a deaf person would say in my situation..but very loudly..)</p>
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<p>Anyway I got some pretty strange looks from theses dickheads three. A mixture of shock and cynicism mostly. They said something else prickish and realising to myself now that I was so balls deep in this situation that I had to go through with it 110% or I was going to get my head smacked in I again responded loudly 'Bawah ahh baa wwaa baa'...complete with some no doubt absurd sign-language I had made up on the spot. Now this split the group somewhat. One dickhead was sure I was faking it and wanted to crack me..the other two not so sure. I was questioned a few more times about whether I was faking it, I responded again loudly with my deaf person noises and sign language making a big effort to indicate my ears didn't work. At this point I was hoping I would have at least attracted the attention of a passerby who might want to come to my aid but..not such luck. There was either no one about or no one really gave a shit at 3am in Palmy. So analysing the situation I figured while the group was in disagreement it would be my best shot of making my escape, I said something else nonsensical and indicated I was walking away. I could hear them arguing with each other behind me, I was walking with my back to them almost with my eyes closed awaiting the inevitable reign of blows. I heard them close behind and felt a half arsed shove..but that was it. As calmly as I could I walked through the alleyway, across the road..and a litte further for good measure, then very maturely at a safe distance turned around and yelled out to them that I wasn't in fact deaf and they were in fact a bunch of fluffybunnies..and then I scarpered home as fast as my little legs could carry me.</p> -
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<p>Also found London to be about a 100 times safer than NZ when walking down the street at night. Palmy was bad for uni, being a short skinny white kid I was an easy target for the exact type of feral we've all run into at some point. I had to rely on my guile to get out of situations especially since I couldn't really run for shit. </p>
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<p>I'd not been back for 3 years & had been living in Harlesden (think gun crime capital of London) and travelled to Nairobi, Tangiers, Marseille - all places with a bit of a reputation. And I stopped off in Huntly to get a pie & it dawned on my that was easily the most on edge I'd felt in the previous 3 years. I'd not remotely put it past the average pissed up Kiwi to punch out a deaf bloke for looking at him funny.</p>
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<p>On the plus side I think it does contribute to the chilled out attitude most kiwis have when travelling. Sort of a "this doesn't seem too bad, I once got Maccas at 3am in Hamilton".</p>
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<p>I always feel its a shame there were no Rwanda style masacres in NZ as I really think a bunch of South Auckland street kids on glue would make a cracking, if somewhat disorganised, strike force. Like a less "feel good" version of Beasts of No Nation </p> -
<br><br><blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Rembrandt" data-cid="569963" data-time="1459854291"><p>As calmly as I could I walked through the alleyway, across the road..and a litte further for good measure, then very maturely at a safe distance turned around and yelled out to them that I wasn't in fact deaf and they were in fact a bunch of fluffybunnys..and then I scarpered home as fast as my little legs could carry me.</p></blockquote>
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<p>Has anybody ever actually gained anything by fighting?</p>
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<p>Exactly.</p>
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<p>Head injuries. Seen a few of those, normally from one punch and a head connecting with the concrete. </p>
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<p>Gone are the days described by a lot of the ferners where a guy went down, everybody stopped and went home. Now roided up 18 year olds want to repeatedly put the boot in and think nothing of going five or six on one. </p> -
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<p>I'd not been back for 3 years & had been living in Harlesden (think gun crime capital of London) and travelled to Nairobi, Tangiers, Marseille - all places with a bit of a reputation. And I stopped off in Huntly to get a pie & it dawned on my that was easily the most on edge I'd felt in the previous 3 years. I'd not remotely put it past the average pissed up Kiwi to punch out a deaf bloke for looking at him funny.</p>
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<p><strong>On the plus side I think it does contribute to the chilled out attitude most kiwis have when travelling. Sort of a "this doesn't seem too bad, I once got Maccas at 3am in Hamilton".</strong></p>
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<p>I always feel its a shame there were no Rwanda style masacres in NZ as I really think a bunch of South Auckland street kids on glue would make a cracking, if somewhat disorganised, strike force. Like a less "feel good" version of Beasts of No Nation </p>
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<p>More than a few times I walked down a main road in Taipei (pop 6m) by myself at 3am. Wouldn't dream of doing that in NZ.</p> -
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<p>Head injuries. Seen a few of those, normally from one punch and a head connecting with the concrete. </p>
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<p>Gone are the days described by a lot of the ferners where a guy went down, everybody stopped and went home. Now roided up 18 year olds want to repeatedly put the boot in and think nothing of going five or six on one. </p>
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<p>I honestly cannot even imagine the type of bullshit you guys have to put up with from obnoxious drunk fuckwits in town. I just cannot stand the "macho man" culture in NZ. I'm not interested in going to town in the weekends anymore, just too much bullshit everywhere from absolute creeps to aggro dickheads.</p> -
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<p>More than a few times I walked down a main road in Taipei (pop 6m) by myself at 3am. Wouldn't dream of doing that in NZ.</p>
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<p>Were other folks crossing the road to avoid <em>you</em>?? :whistle:</p> -
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<p>Head injuries. Seen a few of those, normally from one punch and a head connecting with the concrete. </p>
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<p>Gone are the days described by a lot of the ferners where a guy went down, everybody stopped and went home. Now roided up 18 year olds want to repeatedly put the boot in and think nothing of going five or six on one. </p>
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<p>Yep, back in the day blokes had much more of a code of conduct when fighting, nowadays it's often a case of one sucker punching another, a whole bunch of people joining in and another filming it.</p> -
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<p>Yep, back in the day blokes had much more of a code of conduct when fighting, nowadays it's often a case of one sucker punching another, a whole bunch of people joining in and another filming it.</p>
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<p>The most common scenario that normally happened was one of a large group picking a fight. Starts off one on one, the guy who was mouthy starts getting a towelling so all his mates climb into the other party (who is normally alone or with a small group of friend) and finish him off because their mates can't. Cue the high fiving and general disregard for human life as they leave the guy with head injuries on the pavement. </p>
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<p>I'm genuinely surprised that New Zealand doesn't deal with more deaths from 'king hit' type scenarios on Friday and Saturday nights in the same way that Aussie have. Even in the last decade, it seems that 18 year olds are getting bigger and stronger than 18 year olds have ever been, as the whole "jersey/geordie shore" gym culture becomes a massive thing and guys get right into their weights and vanity from an earlier age. The down side of this is, the first sign of trouble in town and these guys are ripping their shirts off and wading in to fights to test out their brand new biceps. </p>
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<p>I've recently left the Police to head overseas for a few years, but still have a lot of mates who work CIB crime car (crime car is the detectives that deal with initial action in serious crime). It would seem like this summer, their Friday and Saturday nights are just over-run with dealing with incidents where people have been knocked unconscious by some thug who didn't like the way they were looking at them outside a burger joint. </p>
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<p>My landlord over here (Thailand) was raving to me about how safe New Zealand is, and how dangerous Thailand is. As the other posters have said above, I've never felt unsafe walking down the street in the middle of the night over here, but I probably just wouldn't bother in New Zealand. </p>
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<p>Yes, you're probably less likely to be murdered in your home by a stranger in the middle of the night in New Zealand, but statistically speaking, if you're an 18-40 year old male, you're a reasonable chance of getting assaulted at some point in your life. </p> -
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<p>Were other folks crossing the road to avoid <em>you</em>?? :whistle:</p>
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<p>HA. Wouldn't rule it out. I am pretty fucking badass...</p> -
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<p>HA. Wouldn't rule it out. I am pretty fucking badass...</p>
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<p>Although I'm not sure drunk Asians at 3am would be aware of your prowess.</p> -
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<p>The pen is mightier than the sword.</p>
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<p><strong>Although I'm not sure drunk Asians at 3am would be aware of your prowess.</strong></p>
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<p>The pen is mightier than the sword.</p>
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<p>Although I'm not sure drunk Asians at 3am would be aware of your prowess.</p>
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<p>Businessmen didn't wait til 3am to follow me from the subway and/or attempt to drag me down a side alley, did it in broad daylight. They learned a lesson about respecting western women shortly afterward though.</p> -
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<p>HA. Wouldn't rule it out. I am pretty fucking badass...</p>
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<p>Reminds me of a time I was walking behind an elderly couple in a quiet tube station after dark. I had a jacket, beanie, hadn't shaved in a few days and they literally reached into the old dears purse ready to give me whatever I wanted !! I politely said that wouldn't be necessary and smiled and walked off, this was pretty early on in my time in London, if I'd known how much it was gonna cost to live there I probably would have actually mugged them like they thought I was going to. </p> -
<p>if they'd handed it over freely, you wouldn't have mugged them....</p>