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@rancid-schnitzel said in Zac Guildford:
@crucial said in Zac Guildford:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Zac Guildford:
@yeetyaah said in Zac Guildford:
@rancid-schnitzel I understand why you're pissed off about the Wheeler situation but that's a ridiculous comparison and dramatic to suggest he's been "cast out of society."
Seen Joe Wheeler on TV recently?
The fact remains that for some inexplicable reason, second, third etc chances are given for violent crimes yet you’re beyond redemption if you write or say something that might offend someone. I’d rather have someone grievously insult me in a car park than headbutt me. I’d also be much more likely to give a second chance to someone who insults one of kids rather than someone who tries to sell them drugs.
There's another thread for this but hardly an apples for apples comparison. Got examples of those 3rd chances for violence?
What would be an apples for apples comparison?
One with similar consequences?
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@crucial said in Zac Guildford:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Zac Guildford:
@crucial said in Zac Guildford:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Zac Guildford:
@yeetyaah said in Zac Guildford:
@rancid-schnitzel I understand why you're pissed off about the Wheeler situation but that's a ridiculous comparison and dramatic to suggest he's been "cast out of society."
Seen Joe Wheeler on TV recently?
The fact remains that for some inexplicable reason, second, third etc chances are given for violent crimes yet you’re beyond redemption if you write or say something that might offend someone. I’d rather have someone grievously insult me in a car park than headbutt me. I’d also be much more likely to give a second chance to someone who insults one of kids rather than someone who tries to sell them drugs.
There's another thread for this but hardly an apples for apples comparison. Got examples of those 3rd chances for violence?
What would be an apples for apples comparison?
One with similar consequences?
So when an offensive phrase results in the victim being rushed to the ER? Or an offensive tweet causes a kid to OD? A car park insult resulting in someone going to the morgue?
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Zac Guildford:
@crucial said in Zac Guildford:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Zac Guildford:
@crucial said in Zac Guildford:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Zac Guildford:
@yeetyaah said in Zac Guildford:
@rancid-schnitzel I understand why you're pissed off about the Wheeler situation but that's a ridiculous comparison and dramatic to suggest he's been "cast out of society."
Seen Joe Wheeler on TV recently?
The fact remains that for some inexplicable reason, second, third etc chances are given for violent crimes yet you’re beyond redemption if you write or say something that might offend someone. I’d rather have someone grievously insult me in a car park than headbutt me. I’d also be much more likely to give a second chance to someone who insults one of kids rather than someone who tries to sell them drugs.
There's another thread for this but hardly an apples for apples comparison. Got examples of those 3rd chances for violence?
What would be an apples for apples comparison?
One with similar consequences?
So when an offensive phrase results in the victim being rushed to the ER? Or an offensive tweet causes a kid to OD? A car park insult resulting in someone going to the morgue?
The last example there didn't have the second chance you are talking about. The crime in that example spent time in prison, has a record, is monitored in the community and any minor step off the path will see him back inside. I have no idea how that compares with losing a part time job where peers have come out in support of your character and after a period out of the headlines may have an option to return.
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@crucial said in Zac Guildford:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Zac Guildford:
@crucial said in Zac Guildford:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Zac Guildford:
@crucial said in Zac Guildford:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Zac Guildford:
@yeetyaah said in Zac Guildford:
@rancid-schnitzel I understand why you're pissed off about the Wheeler situation but that's a ridiculous comparison and dramatic to suggest he's been "cast out of society."
Seen Joe Wheeler on TV recently?
The fact remains that for some inexplicable reason, second, third etc chances are given for violent crimes yet you’re beyond redemption if you write or say something that might offend someone. I’d rather have someone grievously insult me in a car park than headbutt me. I’d also be much more likely to give a second chance to someone who insults one of kids rather than someone who tries to sell them drugs.
There's another thread for this but hardly an apples for apples comparison. Got examples of those 3rd chances for violence?
What would be an apples for apples comparison?
One with similar consequences?
So when an offensive phrase results in the victim being rushed to the ER? Or an offensive tweet causes a kid to OD? A car park insult resulting in someone going to the morgue?
The last example there didn't have the second chance you are talking about. The crime in that example spent time in prison, has a record, is monitored in the community and any minor step off the path will see him back inside. I have no idea how that compares with losing a part time job where peers have come out in support of your character and after a period out of the headlines may have an option to return.
You are simply making mountains out of molehills.Yeah he never got a second chance. He was only on probation for stomping on some poor prick’s neck. And I bet that’s the tip of the iceberg. But at least he didn’t say something offensive hey?
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Zac Guildford:
@crucial said in Zac Guildford:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Zac Guildford:
@crucial said in Zac Guildford:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Zac Guildford:
@crucial said in Zac Guildford:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Zac Guildford:
@yeetyaah said in Zac Guildford:
@rancid-schnitzel I understand why you're pissed off about the Wheeler situation but that's a ridiculous comparison and dramatic to suggest he's been "cast out of society."
Seen Joe Wheeler on TV recently?
The fact remains that for some inexplicable reason, second, third etc chances are given for violent crimes yet you’re beyond redemption if you write or say something that might offend someone. I’d rather have someone grievously insult me in a car park than headbutt me. I’d also be much more likely to give a second chance to someone who insults one of kids rather than someone who tries to sell them drugs.
There's another thread for this but hardly an apples for apples comparison. Got examples of those 3rd chances for violence?
What would be an apples for apples comparison?
One with similar consequences?
So when an offensive phrase results in the victim being rushed to the ER? Or an offensive tweet causes a kid to OD? A car park insult resulting in someone going to the morgue?
The last example there didn't have the second chance you are talking about. The crime in that example spent time in prison, has a record, is monitored in the community and any minor step off the path will see him back inside. I have no idea how that compares with losing a part time job where peers have come out in support of your character and after a period out of the headlines may have an option to return.
You are simply making mountains out of molehills.Yeah he never got a second chance. He was only on probation for stomping on some poor prick’s neck. And I bet that’s the tip of the iceberg. But at least he didn’t say something offensive hey?
Did I miss the bit when Wheeler was locked in a 3x2 cell, anally probed and made to take high intensity rehabilitation?
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@crucial said in Zac Guildford:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Zac Guildford:
@crucial said in Zac Guildford:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Zac Guildford:
@crucial said in Zac Guildford:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Zac Guildford:
@crucial said in Zac Guildford:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Zac Guildford:
@yeetyaah said in Zac Guildford:
@rancid-schnitzel I understand why you're pissed off about the Wheeler situation but that's a ridiculous comparison and dramatic to suggest he's been "cast out of society."
Seen Joe Wheeler on TV recently?
The fact remains that for some inexplicable reason, second, third etc chances are given for violent crimes yet you’re beyond redemption if you write or say something that might offend someone. I’d rather have someone grievously insult me in a car park than headbutt me. I’d also be much more likely to give a second chance to someone who insults one of kids rather than someone who tries to sell them drugs.
There's another thread for this but hardly an apples for apples comparison. Got examples of those 3rd chances for violence?
What would be an apples for apples comparison?
One with similar consequences?
So when an offensive phrase results in the victim being rushed to the ER? Or an offensive tweet causes a kid to OD? A car park insult resulting in someone going to the morgue?
The last example there didn't have the second chance you are talking about. The crime in that example spent time in prison, has a record, is monitored in the community and any minor step off the path will see him back inside. I have no idea how that compares with losing a part time job where peers have come out in support of your character and after a period out of the headlines may have an option to return.
You are simply making mountains out of molehills.Yeah he never got a second chance. He was only on probation for stomping on some poor prick’s neck. And I bet that’s the tip of the iceberg. But at least he didn’t say something offensive hey?
Did I miss the bit when Wheeler was locked in a 3x2 cell, anally probed and made to take high intensity rehabilitation?
He probably would have preferred that to be honest.
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Zac Guildford:
@bones said in Zac Guildford:
sign me up
You want to be the prober or the probee?
Oh stop. I'm blushing.
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Zac Guildford:
@crucial said in Zac Guildford:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Zac Guildford:
@crucial said in Zac Guildford:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Zac Guildford:
@crucial said in Zac Guildford:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Zac Guildford:
@crucial said in Zac Guildford:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Zac Guildford:
@yeetyaah said in Zac Guildford:
@rancid-schnitzel I understand why you're pissed off about the Wheeler situation but that's a ridiculous comparison and dramatic to suggest he's been "cast out of society."
Seen Joe Wheeler on TV recently?
The fact remains that for some inexplicable reason, second, third etc chances are given for violent crimes yet you’re beyond redemption if you write or say something that might offend someone. I’d rather have someone grievously insult me in a car park than headbutt me. I’d also be much more likely to give a second chance to someone who insults one of kids rather than someone who tries to sell them drugs.
There's another thread for this but hardly an apples for apples comparison. Got examples of those 3rd chances for violence?
What would be an apples for apples comparison?
One with similar consequences?
So when an offensive phrase results in the victim being rushed to the ER? Or an offensive tweet causes a kid to OD? A car park insult resulting in someone going to the morgue?
The last example there didn't have the second chance you are talking about. The crime in that example spent time in prison, has a record, is monitored in the community and any minor step off the path will see him back inside. I have no idea how that compares with losing a part time job where peers have come out in support of your character and after a period out of the headlines may have an option to return.
You are simply making mountains out of molehills.Yeah he never got a second chance. He was only on probation for stomping on some poor prick’s neck. And I bet that’s the tip of the iceberg. But at least he didn’t say something offensive hey?
Did I miss the bit when Wheeler was locked in a 3x2 cell, anally probed and made to take high intensity rehabilitation?
He probably would have preferred that to be honest.
I would say that now you’re being silly but I think that happened quite a few posts back.
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@crucial said in Zac Guildford:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Zac Guildford:
@crucial said in Zac Guildford:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Zac Guildford:
@crucial said in Zac Guildford:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Zac Guildford:
@crucial said in Zac Guildford:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Zac Guildford:
@crucial said in Zac Guildford:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Zac Guildford:
@yeetyaah said in Zac Guildford:
@rancid-schnitzel I understand why you're pissed off about the Wheeler situation but that's a ridiculous comparison and dramatic to suggest he's been "cast out of society."
Seen Joe Wheeler on TV recently?
The fact remains that for some inexplicable reason, second, third etc chances are given for violent crimes yet you’re beyond redemption if you write or say something that might offend someone. I’d rather have someone grievously insult me in a car park than headbutt me. I’d also be much more likely to give a second chance to someone who insults one of kids rather than someone who tries to sell them drugs.
There's another thread for this but hardly an apples for apples comparison. Got examples of those 3rd chances for violence?
What would be an apples for apples comparison?
One with similar consequences?
So when an offensive phrase results in the victim being rushed to the ER? Or an offensive tweet causes a kid to OD? A car park insult resulting in someone going to the morgue?
The last example there didn't have the second chance you are talking about. The crime in that example spent time in prison, has a record, is monitored in the community and any minor step off the path will see him back inside. I have no idea how that compares with losing a part time job where peers have come out in support of your character and after a period out of the headlines may have an option to return.
You are simply making mountains out of molehills.Yeah he never got a second chance. He was only on probation for stomping on some poor prick’s neck. And I bet that’s the tip of the iceberg. But at least he didn’t say something offensive hey?
Did I miss the bit when Wheeler was locked in a 3x2 cell, anally probed and made to take high intensity rehabilitation?
He probably would have preferred that to be honest.
I would say that now you’re being silly but I think that happened quite a few posts back.
Then I certainly deserve some “high intensity rehabilitation”.
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Zac Guildford:
Seen Joe Wheeler on TV recently?
Last night. Back on one of the random Sky Rugby shows.
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Zac Guildford:
@yeetyaah said in Zac Guildford:
@rancid-schnitzel I understand why you're pissed off about the Wheeler situation but that's a ridiculous comparison and dramatic to suggest he's been "cast out of society."
Seen Joe Wheeler on TV recently?
Thankfully no.
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While not excusing Zac's behaviour, I do have some sympathy for a young man who learns his father died while watching him on the field. It's just a pity that alcohol appears to have become a coping mechanism.
Like anyone who has spent time in high pressure environments with a drinking culture, I've witnessed some deplorable behaviour from people who addictive personalities. The damage appears to be dependent on how early they have an episode of such magnitude they accept they have a problem.
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Zac Guildford:
@crucial said in Zac Guildford:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Zac Guildford:
@crucial said in Zac Guildford:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Zac Guildford:
@yeetyaah said in Zac Guildford:
@rancid-schnitzel I understand why you're pissed off about the Wheeler situation but that's a ridiculous comparison and dramatic to suggest he's been "cast out of society."
Seen Joe Wheeler on TV recently?
The fact remains that for some inexplicable reason, second, third etc chances are given for violent crimes yet you’re beyond redemption if you write or say something that might offend someone. I’d rather have someone grievously insult me in a car park than headbutt me. I’d also be much more likely to give a second chance to someone who insults one of kids rather than someone who tries to sell them drugs.
There's another thread for this but hardly an apples for apples comparison. Got examples of those 3rd chances for violence?
What would be an apples for apples comparison?
One with similar consequences?
So when an offensive phrase results in the victim being rushed to the ER? Or an offensive tweet causes a kid to OD? A car park insult resulting in someone going to the morgue?
What happened to that Wellington winger who grievously assaulted a bunch of people ( including some women if I remember rightly ). I hope his career hasn’t suffered too much from the hardship of having to appear in court and getting his convictions quashed
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@mn5 said in Zac Guildford:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Zac Guildford:
@crucial said in Zac Guildford:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Zac Guildford:
@crucial said in Zac Guildford:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Zac Guildford:
@yeetyaah said in Zac Guildford:
@rancid-schnitzel I understand why you're pissed off about the Wheeler situation but that's a ridiculous comparison and dramatic to suggest he's been "cast out of society."
Seen Joe Wheeler on TV recently?
The fact remains that for some inexplicable reason, second, third etc chances are given for violent crimes yet you’re beyond redemption if you write or say something that might offend someone. I’d rather have someone grievously insult me in a car park than headbutt me. I’d also be much more likely to give a second chance to someone who insults one of kids rather than someone who tries to sell them drugs.
There's another thread for this but hardly an apples for apples comparison. Got examples of those 3rd chances for violence?
What would be an apples for apples comparison?
One with similar consequences?
So when an offensive phrase results in the victim being rushed to the ER? Or an offensive tweet causes a kid to OD? A car park insult resulting in someone going to the morgue?
What happened to that Wellington winger who grievously assaulted a bunch of people ( including some women if I remember rightly ). I hope his career hasn’t suffered too much from the hardship of having to appear in court and getting his convictions quashed
He is still playing club rugby in Wellington. Not a bad player but nothing special.
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@booboo said in Zac Guildford:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Zac Guildford:
@yeetyaah said in Zac Guildford:
@rancid-schnitzel I understand why you're pissed off about the Wheeler situation but that's a ridiculous comparison and dramatic to suggest he's been "cast out of society."
Seen Joe Wheeler on TV recently?
Thankfully no.
He's on right now.
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@gt12 said in Zac Guildford:
@booboo said in Zac Guildford:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Zac Guildford:
@yeetyaah said in Zac Guildford:
@rancid-schnitzel I understand why you're pissed off about the Wheeler situation but that's a ridiculous comparison and dramatic to suggest he's been "cast out of society."
Seen Joe Wheeler on TV recently?
Thankfully no.
He's on right now.
Hopefully the “Karens” are alerted to his presence and ready to complain on behalf of everyone......
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When Stuff published an article months ago with name suppression it was obvious who it was. It appears Zac can't be helped despite plenty of people trying.
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@bovidae said in Zac Guildford:
When Stuff published an article months ago with name suppression it was obvious who it was. It appears Zac can't be helped despite plenty of people trying.
Judges continually letting him off the hook lightly are not helping. He needs to go to jail and get help.
Zac Guildford