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    @shark said in NZ cricket 2021:

    Didn't really rescue us in Australia in 19/20 though did he

    Who did? IIRC Blundell was the only guy who emerged with his reputation enhanced. And the poor bastard will probably lose his spot to Conway now!!

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    @canefan said in NZ cricket 2021:

    @shark said in NZ cricket 2021:

    Didn't really rescue us in Australia in 19/20 though did he

    Who did? IIRC Blundell was the only guy who emerged with his reputation enhanced. And the poor bastard will probably lose his spot to Conway now!!

    It’ll only be for one tour. We’ll be needing a new keeper remember…

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    @gunner said in NZ cricket 2021:

    @canefan said in NZ cricket 2021:

    @shark said in NZ cricket 2021:

    Didn't really rescue us in Australia in 19/20 though did he

    Who did? IIRC Blundell was the only guy who emerged with his reputation enhanced. And the poor bastard will probably lose his spot to Conway now!!

    It’ll only be for one tour. We’ll be needing a new keeper remember…

    Yeah, he looks the goods, and is a battle proven nailed on replacement for BJ. When have we had it so good!!!

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    @shark said in NZ cricket 2021:

    Didn't really rescue us in Australia in 19/20 though did he

    Go and visit the Grumpy Old Man thread with these tiresome gripes, BJ is a legend.

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    @mn5 said in NZ cricket 2021:

    @shark said in NZ cricket 2021:

    Didn't really rescue us in Australia in 19/20 though did he

    Go and visit the Grumpy Old Man thread with these tiresome gripes, BJ is a legend.

    Zero sense of humour. Is there a thread for that?

    BJ is a legend.

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    @canefan said in NZ cricket 2021:

    @shark said in NZ cricket 2021:

    Didn't really rescue us in Australia in 19/20 though did he

    Who did? IIRC Blundell was the only guy who emerged with his reputation enhanced.

    really? ......wags might have something to say about that 🙂

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    @bayimports said in NZ cricket 2021:

    @canefan said in NZ cricket 2021:

    @shark said in NZ cricket 2021:

    Didn't really rescue us in Australia in 19/20 though did he

    Who did? IIRC Blundell was the only guy who emerged with his reputation enhanced.

    really? ......wags might have something to say about that 🙂

    Wags! We loves Wags 💘

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    @bayimports said in NZ cricket 2021:

    @canefan said in NZ cricket 2021:

    @shark said in NZ cricket 2021:

    Didn't really rescue us in Australia in 19/20 though did he

    Who did? IIRC Blundell was the only guy who emerged with his reputation enhanced.

    really? ......wags might have something to say about that 🙂

    I thought he meant of the batsman, but the grand total of two impressive players from that series reminds me of why I try to forget that series...!

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    @bayimports said in NZ cricket 2021:

    @canefan said in NZ cricket 2021:

    @shark said in NZ cricket 2021:

    Didn't really rescue us in Australia in 19/20 though did he

    Who did? IIRC Blundell was the only guy who emerged with his reputation enhanced.

    really? ......wags might have something to say about that 🙂

    Pretty sure Southee had a great series too, before being inexplicably rested~~ dropped from the last game, when we already had approximately 12 front line bowlers injured.

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    @gunner said in NZ cricket 2021:

    @bayimports said in NZ cricket 2021:

    @canefan said in NZ cricket 2021:

    @shark said in NZ cricket 2021:

    Didn't really rescue us in Australia in 19/20 though did he

    Who did? IIRC Blundell was the only guy who emerged with his reputation enhanced.

    really? ......wags might have something to say about that 🙂

    Pretty sure Southee had a great series too, before being inexplicably rested~~ dropped from the last game, when we already had approximately 12 front line bowlers injured.

    I was waiting for someone to bang that drum. Look up when Southee took his wickets. From memory he only took one top order wicket in two tests. That's a fact. And then I've been told when he was told Latham would be skipper he made himself unavailable.

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    @shark said in NZ cricket 2021:

    @mn5 said in NZ cricket 2021:

    @shark said in NZ cricket 2021:

    Didn't really rescue us in Australia in 19/20 though did he

    Go and visit the Grumpy Old Man thread with these tiresome gripes, BJ is a legend.

    Zero sense of humour. Is there a thread for that?

    BJ is a legend.

    After years of our team being a joke I’m still extremely triggered at the thought of any of our current players mentioned in jest.

    Next vexing question, is Blundell an option to keep AND open in tests ? I’m inclined to say one or the other. History tells us this is much better done in the shorter forms.

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    @mn5 said in NZ cricket 2021:

    @shark said in NZ cricket 2021:

    @mn5 said in NZ cricket 2021:

    @shark said in NZ cricket 2021:

    Didn't really rescue us in Australia in 19/20 though did he

    Go and visit the Grumpy Old Man thread with these tiresome gripes, BJ is a legend.

    Zero sense of humour. Is there a thread for that?

    BJ is a legend.

    After years of our team being a joke I’m still extremely triggered at the thought of any of our current players mentioned in jest.

    Next vexing question, is Blundell an option to keep AND open in tests ? I’m inclined to say one or the other. History tells us this is much better done in the shorter forms.

    Surely Conway would have a go at opening and Blundell drop down to BJ's spot.

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    @snowy said in NZ cricket 2021:

    @mn5 said in NZ cricket 2021:

    @shark said in NZ cricket 2021:

    @mn5 said in NZ cricket 2021:

    @shark said in NZ cricket 2021:

    Didn't really rescue us in Australia in 19/20 though did he

    Go and visit the Grumpy Old Man thread with these tiresome gripes, BJ is a legend.

    Zero sense of humour. Is there a thread for that?

    BJ is a legend.

    After years of our team being a joke I’m still extremely triggered at the thought of any of our current players mentioned in jest.

    Next vexing question, is Blundell an option to keep AND open in tests ? I’m inclined to say one or the other. History tells us this is much better done in the shorter forms.

    Surely Conway would have a go at opening and Blundell drop down to BJ's spot.

    Seems obvious but isn’t Conway more of a first drop ? Once Rossco inevitably goes it seems obvious he’ll jump right in there at 4/5 ( depending on Nicholls )

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    @mn5 said in NZ cricket 2021:

    Seems obvious but isn’t Conway more of a first drop ? Once Rossco inevitably goes it seems obvious he’ll jump right in there at 4/5 ( depending on Nicholls )

    Well he won't get Kane's spot and historically opener and first drop have been much the same for us, although that has improved. He does seem to have the temperament and the skill set so worth a try? We always seem to struggle to find openers and have to fit someone in.

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    @snowy said in NZ cricket 2021:

    @mn5 said in NZ cricket 2021:

    Seems obvious but isn’t Conway more of a first drop ? Once Rossco inevitably goes it seems obvious he’ll jump right in there at 4/5 ( depending on Nicholls )

    Well he won't get Kane's spot and historically opener and first drop have been much the same for us, although that has improved. He does seem to have the temperament and the skill set so worth a try? We always seem to struggle to find openers and have to fit someone in.

    Justin Langer did ok when he was thrust into the role to be fair.

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    I used to be very strongly of the view that test opener was a specialist position, but I think it's more that an opener has a specific set of skills that not every batsman needs to be successful. I think the most important skill for an opener is judging your off stump and leaving well. Conway looks like he does that well so I think he'd be a solid candidate to open. I'd definitely favour him going straight in as an opener than fiddling around with the middle order and pushing someone else to open. There are a small number of guys who have opened and kept (and props to Brendan Kuruppu who I'm pretty sure managed to spend an entire test in pads) but I don't think it's a good option. I'm hoping noone suggests Conway as a keeper...

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    Brilliant article on BJ

    https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/sidharth-monga-bj-watling-the-quintessential-new-zealander-and-the-best-at-what-he-does-1263018?fbclid=IwAR3iqQqO6LXemajESQIi0W3WZ-yPadCQ1rj4VpQY0OyEcn-8Ojxg-uDA_Uw

    As pure keepers I guess arguments can be made for BMac, Parore or Smith but no way would I pick any of them above him.

    Would any of them have made a World XI in their eras ? Smith was competing against Jeff Dujon, Alan Knott, Rod Marsh etc so no. Parore ? Fuck no.....and BMacs aura always exceeded how good he actually was.

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    Absolute champion BJ. Really hope he has an awesome last 3 tests and we go out with a bang.

    Post this England winter. Blundell to keeper. Ravindra to open, Conway to middle order.

    I expect CdG to also retire, and this is very tough on Mitchell who loses spot in my ideal 11. Don't need a 5th seamer when playing 4 seamers.

    Ravindra in first test 11 might be a bit too adventerous for current selection. But there's no real 'safe' option for the selectors. It's either Conway out of position opening or the young opener with extra burden of being the 5th bowler also. I'm very confident in both, regardless.

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  • SiamS Offline
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    @mn5 said in NZ cricket 2021:

    no.....and BMacs aura always exceeded how good he actually was.

    Not with keeping. You'd have to explain why he wasn't better than Watling.

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    @mn5 Smithy had only played 3 tests when Knott retired and two full seasons when Marsh did.

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