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@majorrage our work has encouraged people to work from home post lockdown 1...we have 1 staff member that is always sick (was one that had to self isolate during L4 after being at a place of interest) but now they can work more often than not when at home.
There are a few that still do 2 days from home a week, I could but my home set up ain't ideal and I prefer an office environment.
@WillieTheWaiter assume you are still in same place? When I was there they were very hit on sick leave, I had 2 in my team of 9 that used thier allowance every year, the other part in our office had a similar % but twice as many staff.
HR made me have a sit down with my staff, to make sure thier work/life balance was right, if there was any factors at work that might be contributing to thier ill health (10 days in a year...)
In my experience some do take the piss, but like life, is usually a minority that make things tougher for everyone else, especially as staff notice the ones who pull sickies too
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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@majorrage our work has encouraged people to work from home post lockdown 1...we have 1 staff member that is always sick (was one that had to self isolate during L4 after being at a place of interest) but now they can work more often than not when at home.
There are a few that still do 2 days from home a week, I could but my home set up ain't ideal and I prefer an office environment.
@WillieTheWaiter assume you are still in same place? When I was there they were very hit on sick leave, I had 2 in my team of 9 that used thier allowance every year, the other part in our office had a similar % but twice as many staff.
HR made me have a sit down with my staff, to make sure thier work/life balance was right, if there was any factors at work that might be contributing to thier ill health (10 days in a year...)
In my experience some do take the piss, but like life, is usually a minority that make things tougher for everyone else, especially as staff notice the ones who pull sickies too
yep still living the dream. you should come back!
still big issues with sick leave usage in contact centres.. defo have to factor that in to any resource planning. 'head office' types not an issue.
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@hooroo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@williethewaiter said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@hooroo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@snowy said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@godder said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
the employer benefits greatly in reduced sick leave usage
Hmmm. Really. If you give an employee 10 days sick leave they take it. If you give them 5 that is what they use.
I agree about sick people at work, don't want that.
Won't even comment on vaccines. We agree, it should be obvious.
I like the goon squad idea, better than bribing morons.
Rubbish!
We have untold amounts of sick leave in the business not taken each year
what 'level' of employee is that though?
Have a mate who owns a manufacturing firm.. his take is that when you're essentially at the 'peak' of where you can get to in your work, which isn't really anywhere when you're kinda locked in that low level no prospects don't care how taking sick leave reflects on you, then they view sick leave as an entitlement that they will 100% use every year. Usually use it all up in the first 6 months then don't have more sick days...
So straight up $300k hit to the bottom line of his company by adding the additional week.
I don't quite get your question? Our workforce doesn't use the entitlement and we are a manufacturing company (As you would know)
so the 'min wage' type employee doesn't use them? That's good.
What I was getting at was that we see a massive disparity between those who use their sick days between staff who are 'min wage contact centre' types and 'head office career progression' types.
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@williethewaiter said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@hooroo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@williethewaiter said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@hooroo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@snowy said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@godder said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
the employer benefits greatly in reduced sick leave usage
Hmmm. Really. If you give an employee 10 days sick leave they take it. If you give them 5 that is what they use.
I agree about sick people at work, don't want that.
Won't even comment on vaccines. We agree, it should be obvious.
I like the goon squad idea, better than bribing morons.
Rubbish!
We have untold amounts of sick leave in the business not taken each year
what 'level' of employee is that though?
Have a mate who owns a manufacturing firm.. his take is that when you're essentially at the 'peak' of where you can get to in your work, which isn't really anywhere when you're kinda locked in that low level no prospects don't care how taking sick leave reflects on you, then they view sick leave as an entitlement that they will 100% use every year. Usually use it all up in the first 6 months then don't have more sick days...
So straight up $300k hit to the bottom line of his company by adding the additional week.
I don't quite get your question? Our workforce doesn't use the entitlement and we are a manufacturing company (As you would know)
so the 'min wage' type employee doesn't use them? That's good.
What I was getting at was that we see a massive disparity between those who use their sick days between staff who are 'min wage contact centre' types and 'head office career progression' types.
Oh absolutely some do. I would never dispute that. But for the most they don't.
And min wage is closer to 100k than not for ground staff. Strong union
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I had a realisation the other other day, as I work for an american company. Been having some headache issues that I've been working through, but one beat me so I mentioned to my boss that he'd have put the day down as a sick day for me.
No irony, the reply was what's a sick day.
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@kirwan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
I had a realisation the other other day, as I work for an american company. Been having some headache issues that I've been working through, but one beat me so I mentioned to my boss that he'd have put the day down as a sick day for me.
No irony, the reply was what's a sick day.
Working in the US must suck. 10 days annual leave is standard, isn't it?
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@hooroo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@kirwan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
I had a realisation the other other day, as I work for an american company. Been having some headache issues that I've been working through, but one beat me so I mentioned to my boss that he'd have put the day down as a sick day for me.
No irony, the reply was what's a sick day.
Working in the US must suck. 10 days annual leave is standard, isn't it?
Depends on the state, this one is three weeks. Luckily I have a NZ contract so I have 4, but from time to time I have to explain NZ law. The other notable difference is how many public holidays we get compared to them.
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@kirwan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@hooroo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@kirwan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
I had a realisation the other other day, as I work for an american company. Been having some headache issues that I've been working through, but one beat me so I mentioned to my boss that he'd have put the day down as a sick day for me.
No irony, the reply was what's a sick day.
Working in the US must suck. 10 days annual leave is standard, isn't it?
Depends on the state, this one is three weeks. Luckily I have a NZ contract so I have 4, but from time to time I have to explain NZ law. The other notable difference is how many public holidays we get compared to them.
4 is NZ law isn't it?
How many stat days do they get?
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@rapido said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@tim said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
As at 11:59pm 14 September 2021:
As the standard spacing between doses is 6 weeks, hopefully this means that we will have > 70% of 12 yo and over people fully vaccinated in about 6 weeks time.
Stats for 15th just released:
Of interest now is seeing where the bookings may plateau out at.
Since yesterday:
New bookings +13k
First dose + 41k
Second dose + 23kWell, I won't bother putting too much importance on increases in the new bookings number like I did yesterday.
Today it has declined by 5k from yesterday's number.
Not sure how that happens
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@williethewaiter ha dont you guys have like 3 or 4 restructures a year?
Oh thats right, they changed the name, what was it they call them now?
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@canefan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@godder said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
11 cases today so still on the right track. Very persistent tail...
When will they announce potential level changes for next week?
In theory they have - Auckland to L3 and the rest of the country to remain at L2 but with increased indoor gatherings to 100, both to take effect 23:59 Tuesday. That will be confirmed on Monday after the cabinet meeting.
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@jc we're probably lucky the L4 on steroids I read about a couple months ago didn't eventuate....
Can't beat simplicity...you'd have to think if there are a handful of people caught breaching the Auckland border, how many haven't been?
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@jc said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@godder So how many levels do we actually have now? We’ve had the original 4, then L2.5 that Auckland had last year, Delta L2, and now L1.5. And Level 0 I assume.So 7 or 8? Why are we pretending there are 4 alert levels?
I haven't seen anything suggested for L1.5 – the PM was pretty clear that L1 will not have any temporary changes (so no 1.5). There was the added requirement for masks on public transport and QR codes/contact tracing details in future, but those are intended to be permanent changes, not a temporary level.
Presumably L0 would be either declaring victory/defeat or acknowledgement of it being endemic, and removing all reference to levels.
Stepping down through partial levels isn't ideal, but I guess it's easier and less confusing to stick with the common framework of 4 levels and adjust a few line items here and there than to redo it with 6 levels.
Not sure what L5 would have looked like – maybe the Vietnamese restrictions of nearly everyone staying home and the army delivering food parcels? Tightening up the definition of essential service a bit, or enforcing it more, struck me as being a lot easier than that.
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Oh it's endemic alright, we've known that since the beginning. So what are the vax targets before we open up? It really is that simple. X of the eligible population vaccinated and we open, there's absolutely no other way out of this.
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