Movie review thread...
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@majorrage said in Re: Movie review thread...:
Anybody who is expecting a straight white man to play the next Bond is completely dreaming.
Really couldn't give a stuff about the skin colour of the next Bond as long as it's, well, James Bond.
Personally, I think Idris Elba would be bloody great. Has the charisma, hardness, coolness and is just so quintessentially British to be a great fit for the part.
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@victor-meldrew @ major rage
If you can have a blond Bond, why not a black Bond. Having read the books I can remember God knows how many references to him having black hair that fell like a comma over his brow, but nary a mention of his skin colour save that he took a tan quite well.
Maybe he was always black.
Edit: However, woke is not acceptable
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@catogrande said in Re: Movie review thread...:
@victor-meldrew @ major rage
If you can have a blond Bond, why not a black Bond. Having read the books I can remember God knows how many references to him having black hair that fell like a comma over his brow, but nary a mention of his skin colour save that he took a tan quite well.
Maybe he was always black.
Edit: However, woke is not acceptable
Why not instead just have a new character not called James Bond whose black?
I expect it will be Eldra myself. And if the movies good I’ll go snd see it.
But I am so sick of “progressive” bullshit. What’s next, Lady Gaga to play Winston Churchill? Lizzo to play Karen Carpenter? Jamie Chung to play Stephen Hawking?
Where does it end.
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@majorrage said in Re: Movie review thread...:
@catogrande said in Re: Movie review thread...:
@victor-meldrew @ major rage
If you can have a blond Bond, why not a black Bond. Having read the books I can remember God knows how many references to him having black hair that fell like a comma over his brow, but nary a mention of his skin colour save that he took a tan quite well.
Maybe he was always black.
Edit: However, woke is not acceptable
Why not instead just have a new character not called James Bond whose black?
I expect it will be Eldra myself. And if the movies good I’ll go snd see it.
But I am so sick of “progressive” bullshit. What’s next, Lady Gaga to play Winston Churchill? Lizzo to play Karen Carpenter? Jamie Chung to play Stephen Hawking?
Where does it end.
Or Tom Cruise to play 6’5” Jack Reacher 😀
But yeah changing the very ethos of something purely for the sake of tokenism is pretty shite.
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@majorrage said in Re: Movie review thread...:
Where does it end.
I can see where you are coming from, but Bond in the movies has changed and morphed into the modern world without losing his character. And Judi Dench was a great M and the new Moneypenny character is also great. So as long as the character of Bond remains the same, I don't have a problem.
But as @Catogrande says, a woke or gay bond would be as out of place as Quentin Crisp being played by Chuck Connors.
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Taking the boys to Bond on Satdee. Can’t wait. People overseas who I know say it’s fucken awesome so that’ll do me.
I just hope @MajorRage is exaggerating his criticisms.
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@majorrage said in Re: Movie review thread...:
@catogrande said in Re: Movie review thread...:
@victor-meldrew @ major rage
If you can have a blond Bond, why not a black Bond. Having read the books I can remember God knows how many references to him having black hair that fell like a comma over his brow, but nary a mention of his skin colour save that he took a tan quite well.
Maybe he was always black.
Edit: However, woke is not acceptable
Why not instead just have a new character not called James Bond whose black?
I expect it will be Eldra myself. And if the movies good I’ll go snd see it.
But I am so sick of “progressive” bullshit. What’s next, Lady Gaga to play Winston Churchill? Lizzo to play Karen Carpenter? Jamie Chung to play Stephen Hawking?
Where does it end.
i tend to fall down more on the "woke" side of a lot of these things....there are loads of awesome female action characters out there and to co-op an existing male one instead of writing a unique female one actually does them a disservice, thats why i dont actually mind what theyre doing with moneypenny, developed her character more with 15 minutes of screen time in each of the last few films that in the 60 before hand
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@tim said in Re: Movie review thread...:
The Daniel Craig bond movies have unwatchable boredom-fests except for the first one. The Pierce Brosnan ones were garbage too.
Time to kill it.
im a huge fan, all the movies on DVD, the original books in a cool set they release in the 2000's....but you're kind of right, there are better action movies (both realistic and fantastical), its why i liked the first Kingman film, old school madness and im quite looking forward to the next one, second went of the already weird rails
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@tim i think if theyre going to keep it going they need to do something different, i think people expect if there are a series of movies that they connect and i know daniel craigs ones "do"....but theyre still stand alone films to a large extent
i was thinking they could start doing trilogies with proper cliff hangers to build some suspense, you could then look to change the actor easier as "their" story will "end"
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@kiwiwomble Biggest problem for me is that Craig is a dull, charmless, Jason Bourne knock-off. Needs to return to what made the character interesting in the first place.
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@tim said in Re: Movie review thread...:
@kiwiwomble Biggest problem for me is that Craig is a dull, charmless, Jason Bourne knock-off. Needs to return to what made the character interesting in the first place.
Isn't that the problem though? Womanising hard drinking super spies don't resonate with the general population anymore apparently...
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@kiwiwomble said in Re: Movie review thread...:
@canefan the woke ness isn;t "new"...just more vocal...at least previous bonds were charming womanisers, you could see why he got so much tail....craig is overly aggressive, mainulative and a bit smarmy
Definitely more in the brooding moody Timothy Dalton style
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@kiwiwomble said in Re: Movie review thread...:
@canefan the woke ness isn;t "new"...just more vocal...at least previous bonds were charming womanisers, you could see why he got so much tail....craig is overly aggressive, mainulative and a bit smarmy
Craig has smashed more hotties than any Bond. Here’s a few examples…..
I’d better delete these pics in case I absent mindedly scroll through my phone when the other half is sitting beside me.
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@kiwiwomble said in Re: Movie review thread...:
@mn5 i know he have, the point is when i talk to actual women, they dont get it, he's not even a bad boy as it were...just a bit of a dick
Treat em mean keep em keen bro.
Womanising 101.
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@mn5 said in Re: Movie review thread...:
@kiwiwomble said in Re: Movie review thread...:
@canefan the woke ness isn;t "new"...just more vocal...at least previous bonds were charming womanisers, you could see why he got so much tail....craig is overly aggressive, mainulative and a bit smarmy
Craig has smashed more hotties than any Bond. Here’s a few examples…..
I’d better delete these pics in case I absent mindedly scroll through my phone when the other half is sitting beside me.
you know its only acting right?...he didnt actually have sex with them in the movies...
edit: quoted the pics so to double your chances of getting spotted by the mrs....YOUR welcome