The State of the Game
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@kiwiwomble said in The State of the Game:
@mn5 i think Cricket has also made a huge effort to engage with the fans, playing more games in smaller grounds all around the country including supporting the development of grounds like hagley park which is a great place to go watch
As is the Basin on a typically beautiful Wellington day.
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@nzzp said in The State of the Game:
@mn5 Steve Waugh was a galactic fluffybunny, bit a massive positive influence on test cricket. I rate him hugely
Steve Waugh played hard and tough. I certainly wouldn’t call him a fluffybunny by any stretch. He’s not Brad Haddin after all.
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@nta said in The State of the Game:
@nzzp said in The State of the Game:
@mn5 Steve Waugh was an ice-cold, deadset legend
galactic fluffybunny, bit a massive positive influence on test cricket. I rate him hugelyFixed.
Fair assessment, I can’t deny it
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@kiwiwomble said in The State of the Game:
@mn5 i think Cricket has also made a huge effort to engage with the fans, playing more games in smaller grounds all around the country including supporting the development of grounds like hagley park which is a great place to go watch
I think you're mistaking "huge effort to engage" with 2 actual different causes.
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No test venue in Auckland
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So much content for content's sake white-ball internationals (about 20 per year) that they have to be spread around, especially the ODIs, at no cost to crowd attendances if held at the big centres.
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@nta said in The State of the Game:
@bones said in The State of the Game:
We had Ireland players being allowed to knock the ball out of the halfbacks hands at the ruck and not even get called for offside,
With the former: they were taking the arm of the halfback, which is a different thing.
But yes, the offside officiating right next to the ruck wasn't very sharp. At one point Aki grabs Perenara's arm as he's passing it off the deck, which is fine - the fact he's a good half a metre offside is not.
Knocking the ball out is knocking the ball out.
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@rapido said in The State of the Game:
@kiwiwomble said in The State of the Game:
@mn5 i think Cricket has also made a huge effort to engage with the fans, playing more games in smaller grounds all around the country including supporting the development of grounds like hagley park which is a great place to go watch
I think you're mistaking "huge effort to engage" with 2 actual different causes.
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No test venue in Auckland
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So much content for content's sake white-ball internationals (about 20 per year) that they have to be spread around, especially the ODIs, at no cost to crowd attendances if held at the big centres.
You’d think a city the size of Auckland would have a quaint cricket ground like some of the others centres do
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@mn5 said in The State of the Game:
@rapido said in The State of the Game:
@kiwiwomble said in The State of the Game:
@mn5 i think Cricket has also made a huge effort to engage with the fans, playing more games in smaller grounds all around the country including supporting the development of grounds like hagley park which is a great place to go watch
I think you're mistaking "huge effort to engage" with 2 actual different causes.
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No test venue in Auckland
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So much content for content's sake white-ball internationals (about 20 per year) that they have to be spread around, especially the ODIs, at no cost to crowd attendances if held at the big centres.
You’d think a city the size of Auckland would have a quaint cricket ground like some of the others centres do
Eden Park no 2 would have been a superb test match venue. Apparently slightly too sall and the facilities aren't quite up to it.
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@rapido said in The State of the Game:
The game is stuffed, I've given up on it. Dont see this a temporary blip in rules or styles. Not much resemblance anymore to what made me love it as a kid.
Haven't watched a match for over a year.
There is no enjoyment in it for me anymore.
I'm getting close. Used to watch so much of it. Now it's the All Blacks only, and even then it's a struggle largely due to the TMO.
The turning point for me was the Poite/Garces "deal" at the end of the 3rd Lions Test in 2017. Fuck investing any time/ care factor in rugby after that.
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@bones said in The State of the Game:
@nta said in The State of the Game:
@bones said in The State of the Game:
We had Ireland players being allowed to knock the ball out of the halfbacks hands at the ruck and not even get called for offside,
With the former: they were taking the arm of the halfback, which is a different thing.
But yes, the offside officiating right next to the ruck wasn't very sharp. At one point Aki grabs Perenara's arm as he's passing it off the deck, which is fine - the fact he's a good half a metre offside is not.
Knocking the ball out is knocking the ball out.
No, it really isn't.
I can tackle someone by the arm including grabbing their wrist or elbow. Perfectly legal.
We saw the illegal version when one of the Wales players reached over a maul and tapped the ball out of the Fijian half's hands. No intent to tackle or gain possession, ignoring the fact they weren't bound correctly in the maul.
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@donsteppa said in The State of the Game:
@Rapido @nzzp I can relate. I've started to go from rugby being my favourite sport in winter and cricket my favourite sport in summer... to rugby being what I'll watch if I can't find any cricket on, regardless of the time of year.
Yeah thank god our cricket team is suddenly awesome, and all GCs to boot. There is a game that has its TMO shit together.
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@tewaio said in The State of the Game:
@rapido said in The State of the Game:
The game is stuffed, I've given up on it. Dont see this a temporary blip in rules or styles. Not much resemblance anymore to what made me love it as a kid.
Haven't watched a match for over a year.
There is no enjoyment in it for me anymore.
I'm getting close. Used to watch so much of it. Now it's the All Blacks only, and even then it's a struggle largely due to the TMO.
The turning point for me was the Poite/Garces "deal" at the end of the 3rd Lions Test in 2017. Fuck investing any time/ care factor in rugby after that.
True. Back in the day it was easy to know whether a player was worthy of an AB call up cos you’d watched him in Super Rugby all season.
Now I need to trawl through threads on here to decide if he’s any good or if ferners are simply fluffing him too much.
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@bones said in The State of the Game:
@nta said in The State of the Game:
I can tackle someone by the arm including grabbing their wrist or elbow. Perfectly legal.
Not from offside you can't, which is what I was saying. Thanks for mansplaining though sir.
Ah... I overlooked your reference to the offside line, which was....
@bones said in The State of the Game:
Knocking the ball out is knocking the ball out.
Fucking. Nowhere.
Need any more mansplaining?
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@nta said in The State of the Game:
@bones said in The State of the Game:
@nta said in The State of the Game:
I can tackle someone by the arm including grabbing their wrist or elbow. Perfectly legal.
Not from offside you can't, which is what I was saying. Thanks for mansplaining though sir.
Ah... I overlooked your reference to the offside line, which was....
@bones said in The State of the Game:
Knocking the ball out is knocking the ball out.
Fucking. Nowhere.
Need any more mansplaining?
You literally quoted it in the reply before that, you old guys are really getting into the groove of this forgetting stuff thing huh?
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@kiwiwomble said in The State of the Game:
@voodoo said in The State of the Game:
Well this thread can go and fuck itself.
This is the fucking Fern. We whine and complain and make grandiose predictions and statements. We claim higher morals, better understanding, and we reserve the right to see our teams go undefeated forever.
i must be reading a different part of the fern
He was clearly referring to the Hawt discussion thread.
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@tewaio said in The State of the Game:
@rapido said in The State of the Game:
The game is stuffed, I've given up on it. Dont see this a temporary blip in rules or styles. Not much resemblance anymore to what made me love it as a kid.
Haven't watched a match for over a year.
There is no enjoyment in it for me anymore.
I'm getting close. Used to watch so much of it. Now it's the All Blacks only, and even then it's a struggle largely due to the TMO.
The turning point for me was the Poite/Garces "deal" at the end of the 3rd Lions Test in 2017. Fuck investing any time/ care factor in rugby after that.
Same for me. Although you do suffer from the issue as me in that being UK based means that local rugby is much more about being better people (especially better than those horrible football people) than the actual sport.
