The State of the Game
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@mariner4life The removal of rucking was the beginning of the end.
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@antipodean said in The State of the Game:
@mariner4life The removal of rucking was the beginning of the end.
old videos look so so strange now, as a pack piles in to a breakdown and just stomps the fuck out of anyone unlucky enough to be there.
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@mariner4life wore the stripes with pride though!
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@taniwharugby said in The State of the Game:
@mariner4life wore the stripes with pride though!
oh man, those few nights where you couldn't sleep on your back if you got properly done over.
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@victor-meldrew said in The State of the Game:
@voodoo said in The State of the Game:
This is the fucking Fern. We whine and complain and make grandiose predictions and statements. We claim higher morals, better understanding, and we reserve the right to see our teams go undefeated forever.
But we don't stop watching the fucking game.It's called The Fern Circular Logic.
Anyone on here talking about giving up on watching the AB's play can give themselves a massive uppercut and should be forced to rewatch the opening 25mins of the Italy game on repeat for 48hrs, Clockwork Orange style
As long as it has that hot nurse with the eyedrops, I'm up for it.
There was some top quality nudity in that flick all round.
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@rapido said in The State of the Game:
@mn5 said in The State of the Game:
@rapido said in The State of the Game:
The game is stuffed, I've given up on it. Dont see this a temporary blip in rules or styles. Not much resemblance anymore to what made me love it as a kid.
Haven't watched a match for over a year.
There is no enjoyment in it for me anymore.
Alot of that might be down to your priorites changing as your life does. It certainly is the case for me. When I was flatting we’d never miss a game of Super Rugby, we’d always watch the NZ game, the Aussie game right after and more often than not get up at 3am to watch the Saffa teams play. Talking shit with mates all through these games and having a laugh was obviously a big part of it though.
I did get sky this year but fuck watching a game at 3am, sleep is of much bigger importance to me these days, a replay if I have time and inclination ( and don’t spoil it by reading the fern ) is fine.
It might be.
But it hasn't affected my following of cricket. Well, test cricket.
And soccer has slightly risen to fill part that void by filling a 1 hour a week sporting void.
These sports still resemble what the sport looked like when I first started watching them, rugby just doesn't. And it has fallen into a cycle of in-game commentary and after game pundit and fans super-cycles of negativity.
(I confess, actually I did keep watching Grassroots rugby show and/or the half hour college rugby show.
Maybe there is hope, maybe if less over-exposure, less whinging commentary and replays, naive or positive players, teams in traditional kits, playing on grounds suited to their crowd sizes .... then there is an event I see worth watching that won't have me angry. Although even with these I'll still end up rolling my eyes on occasions at outrageous shepherds or passing the ball off the ground, which is probably just my curmudgeoness creeping through as it was better rules in my day etc etc. But I could live with a few annoyances if the whole entire thing wasn't a burning dumpster fire).Where as test cricket. Despite some of the flaws (2 match serieses, no warm-up match) I think has gotten even better than when I was a kid. Big bats I think improves test cricket (but worsens white ball cricket), DRS is a success, umpiring is waaaaaaay batter than back in the day, and now the WTC context just puts the cherry on top. I do not underestimate the ICC's level of incompetencies meaning it could regress again. E.g. WTC could get canned if it interferes too much with Big 3 making even more money. I probably wouldn't hold this opinion though if I was a West Indian.
Whether we care to admit it or not a lot of this can be put down to the Australian team of the 2000s. They helped make it a spectacle again. Also some shorter format techniques ( thankfully not all ) have helped Test cricket progress.
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@mn5 i think Cricket has also made a huge effort to engage with the fans, playing more games in smaller grounds all around the country including supporting the development of grounds like hagley park which is a great place to go watch
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@kiwiwomble said in The State of the Game:
@mn5 i think Cricket has also made a huge effort to engage with the fans, playing more games in smaller grounds all around the country including supporting the development of grounds like hagley park which is a great place to go watch
As is the Basin on a typically beautiful Wellington day.
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@nzzp said in The State of the Game:
@mn5 Steve Waugh was a galactic fluffybunny, bit a massive positive influence on test cricket. I rate him hugely
Steve Waugh played hard and tough. I certainly wouldn’t call him a fluffybunny by any stretch. He’s not Brad Haddin after all.
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@nta said in The State of the Game:
@nzzp said in The State of the Game:
@mn5 Steve Waugh was an ice-cold, deadset legend
galactic fluffybunny, bit a massive positive influence on test cricket. I rate him hugelyFixed.
Fair assessment, I can’t deny it
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@kiwiwomble said in The State of the Game:
@mn5 i think Cricket has also made a huge effort to engage with the fans, playing more games in smaller grounds all around the country including supporting the development of grounds like hagley park which is a great place to go watch
I think you're mistaking "huge effort to engage" with 2 actual different causes.
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No test venue in Auckland
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So much content for content's sake white-ball internationals (about 20 per year) that they have to be spread around, especially the ODIs, at no cost to crowd attendances if held at the big centres.
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@nta said in The State of the Game:
@bones said in The State of the Game:
We had Ireland players being allowed to knock the ball out of the halfbacks hands at the ruck and not even get called for offside,
With the former: they were taking the arm of the halfback, which is a different thing.
But yes, the offside officiating right next to the ruck wasn't very sharp. At one point Aki grabs Perenara's arm as he's passing it off the deck, which is fine - the fact he's a good half a metre offside is not.
Knocking the ball out is knocking the ball out.
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@rapido said in The State of the Game:
@kiwiwomble said in The State of the Game:
@mn5 i think Cricket has also made a huge effort to engage with the fans, playing more games in smaller grounds all around the country including supporting the development of grounds like hagley park which is a great place to go watch
I think you're mistaking "huge effort to engage" with 2 actual different causes.
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No test venue in Auckland
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So much content for content's sake white-ball internationals (about 20 per year) that they have to be spread around, especially the ODIs, at no cost to crowd attendances if held at the big centres.
You’d think a city the size of Auckland would have a quaint cricket ground like some of the others centres do
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@mn5 said in The State of the Game:
@rapido said in The State of the Game:
@kiwiwomble said in The State of the Game:
@mn5 i think Cricket has also made a huge effort to engage with the fans, playing more games in smaller grounds all around the country including supporting the development of grounds like hagley park which is a great place to go watch
I think you're mistaking "huge effort to engage" with 2 actual different causes.
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No test venue in Auckland
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So much content for content's sake white-ball internationals (about 20 per year) that they have to be spread around, especially the ODIs, at no cost to crowd attendances if held at the big centres.
You’d think a city the size of Auckland would have a quaint cricket ground like some of the others centres do
Eden Park no 2 would have been a superb test match venue. Apparently slightly too sall and the facilities aren't quite up to it.
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@rapido said in The State of the Game:
The game is stuffed, I've given up on it. Dont see this a temporary blip in rules or styles. Not much resemblance anymore to what made me love it as a kid.
Haven't watched a match for over a year.
There is no enjoyment in it for me anymore.
I'm getting close. Used to watch so much of it. Now it's the All Blacks only, and even then it's a struggle largely due to the TMO.
The turning point for me was the Poite/Garces "deal" at the end of the 3rd Lions Test in 2017. Fuck investing any time/ care factor in rugby after that.
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@bones said in The State of the Game:
@nta said in The State of the Game:
@bones said in The State of the Game:
We had Ireland players being allowed to knock the ball out of the halfbacks hands at the ruck and not even get called for offside,
With the former: they were taking the arm of the halfback, which is a different thing.
But yes, the offside officiating right next to the ruck wasn't very sharp. At one point Aki grabs Perenara's arm as he's passing it off the deck, which is fine - the fact he's a good half a metre offside is not.
Knocking the ball out is knocking the ball out.
No, it really isn't.
I can tackle someone by the arm including grabbing their wrist or elbow. Perfectly legal.
We saw the illegal version when one of the Wales players reached over a maul and tapped the ball out of the Fijian half's hands. No intent to tackle or gain possession, ignoring the fact they weren't bound correctly in the maul.
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@donsteppa said in The State of the Game:
@Rapido @nzzp I can relate. I've started to go from rugby being my favourite sport in winter and cricket my favourite sport in summer... to rugby being what I'll watch if I can't find any cricket on, regardless of the time of year.
Yeah thank god our cricket team is suddenly awesome, and all GCs to boot. There is a game that has its TMO shit together.
