GOAT
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I recognise the obvious; Slater is widely regarded as the best surfer of his generation. I also recognise that it's entirely a subjective sport.
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@majorrage said in GOAT:
@chester-draws said in GOAT:
For longevity, Jack Nicklaus. He won a major aged 46, and that in a major sport.
Mickleson kind of tore that one up ….
Hard to go past Brady for me.
Yeah Brady and Federer, and at some point in the not so distant future, LeBron, are right up there.
Not Brady for me. Stafford is currently showing how important the team is in NFL --so while he's GOAT of NFL, I wouldn't put him up there in all time GOAT.
The reach of the sport is critical to me, which means unfortunately that a Soccer player is probably a candidate. Basketball more than NFL/MLB/NHL - again due to accessibility.
Maybe Zatopek for his magic effort?
I was speaking of longevity.
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@antipodean said in GOAT:
I recognise the obvious; Slater is widely regarded as the best surfer of his generation. I also recognise that it's entirely a subjective sport.
yes, things become interesting with things like judging every wave being different
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@mariner4life said in GOAT:
The GOAT Mt Rushmore of my lifetime is Slater, Jordan, Tiger Woods and Brady.
Slater winning Pipe at basically 50 is fucking ridiculous. Surfing is more a young man's game than nearly anything. And Pipe is the most famous comp in the sport. To win Pipe at his age is hard to comprehend.
Brady stuck up competition leading numbers at 44. Slater won Pipe at 50. The fuck am i doing with my life?
Very US centric of you.
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See @MN5 has mentioned cricket GOATs Bradman and Tendulkar, but being @MN5 seems to have overstepped the mark, managed to miss the point and get deleted...
... but when you're considering GOATs you've got to consider these two.
Cricket is a fucking HUUUGE sport in terms of support because India...
Bradman first obviously. Tendulkar some way behind.
Bradman obviously not our lifetime, but Tendulkar worth consideration.
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Ali
Transcended his sport
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I never saw Pele, but his videos are all over you tube, the guy was a magician. Maradona scored the best goal I think I've ever seen in a WC game (soon after scoring one of the most infamous). He made the whole England team look like pub players
Messi and Ronaldo obviously deserve mentions of the current crop. The only knock on Messi would be his lack of international major trophy success
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Max Woosnan. No-one else comes close for being top in so many sports.
Among his achievements were winning an Olympic gold and silver in tennis at the 1920 Summer Olympics, winning the doubles at Wimbledon, compiling a 147 break in snooker, making a century at Lord's Cricket Ground, captaining the British Davis Cup team, captaining Manchester City F.C. finishing ultimately runners-up for the Football League Championship in 1920–21, and captaining the England national football team. -
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@victor-meldrew said in GOAT:
Max Woosnan. No-one else comes close for being top in so many sports.
Among his achievements were winning an Olympic gold and silver in tennis at the 1920 Summer Olympics, winning the doubles at Wimbledon, compiling a 147 break in snooker, making a century at Lord's Cricket Ground, captaining the British Davis Cup team, captaining Manchester City F.C. finishing ultimately runners-up for the Football League Championship in 1920–21, and captaining the England national football team.Kim Jong-un?
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@victor-meldrew said in GOAT:
Max Woosnan. No-one else comes close for being top in so many sports.
Among his achievements were winning an Olympic gold and silver in tennis at the 1920 Summer Olympics, winning the doubles at Wimbledon, compiling a 147 break in snooker, making a century at Lord's Cricket Ground, captaining the British Davis Cup team, captaining Manchester City F.C. finishing ultimately runners-up for the Football League Championship in 1920–21, and captaining the England national football team.No one likes a show off.
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Phil Taylor. 16 world championships, plus carried far more weight to height than most of the above mentioned, 19 stones of dart-pushing momentum on a 5 foot 8 or so frame. Heavier than 6"6' Anthony Joshua at his flabbiest peak.
Edit: I guess my cryptic point is it would be interesting and useful to have some meta-criteria so out there "sports" like darts are considered or not on an equal footing...
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@nostrildamus said in GOAT:
Phil Taylor. 16 world championships, plus carried far more weight to height than most of the above mentioned, 19 stones of dart-pushing momentum on a 5 foot 8 or so frame. Heavier than 6"6' Anthony Joshua at his flabbiest peak.
Edit: I guess my cryptic point is it would be interesting and useful to have some meta-criteria so out there "sports" like darts are considered or not on an equal footing...
That's an interesting point. Someone once said Damon Hill was the greatest development driver he had ever seen in Formula One, who could tune a good car into a truly great one better than anyone, but was an average racing driver.
That's a great skill, but is it a truly sporting skill?
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@victor-meldrew said in GOAT:
Max Woosnan. No-one else comes close for being top in so many sports.
Among his achievements were winning an Olympic gold and silver in tennis at the 1920 Summer Olympics, winning the doubles at Wimbledon, compiling a 147 break in snooker, making a century at Lord's Cricket Ground, captaining the British Davis Cup team, captaining Manchester City F.C. finishing ultimately runners-up for the Football League Championship in 1920–21, and captaining the England national football team.If we're talking about achievements across a variety of sport, the CB Fry must get a mention. International cricketer, 94 first class centuries including 6 on the trot, world long jump record holder, England international footballer, FA Cup finalist, a handy first class rugby player (Blackheath). More importantly he was asked to become King of Albani but turned it down.
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@catogrande said in GOAT:
If we're talking about achievements across a variety of sport, the CB Fry must get a mention. International cricketer, 94 first class centuries including 6 on the trot, world long jump record holder, England international footballer, FA Cup finalist, a handy first class rugby player (Blackheath). More importantly he was asked to become King of Albani but turned it down.
And Denis Compton. That era seemed to have a number of people like that - Martin Donnelly as well who played Test rugby for England (who were poaching even then.....
)In the modern era, Jeff Wilson and Andy Ripley spring to mind.
Max Woosnam - Wikipedia
