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    I've ordered the BYD Atto 3, got an email saying it's on the production line now. So hopefully will arrive on time in July. Just got to sell my ICE car before it arrives which is always a pain in the arse.

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    @davesofthunder have you checked the big Tesla? A mate had one, I think seats 6. Pricy though I understand

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    @nzzp

    Yep, the Model s has joke backward facing seats and we are not rolling enough moolah for the model X (not convinced by the gull wing doors either)

    Options are thin on the ground so appreciate the ideas 😊

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    It's a Merc. It'll be a good drive.

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    In laws have EQC. Said range is really shit. Everything kills it. Would not use it to go further than 100 miles.

    Outside thst though think car is great.

    I’d look at the model s if I were you. How often will the other seats be used? Kids will love sitting in the boot!

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    @majorrage

    Even an old model s is far beyond what I can justify spending on a car.

    Even the Merc has me figuring how best to do it

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    Technically electric and I thought it was cool

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/128397643/transport-revolution-touted-electric-seagliders-to-connect-nz-cities-by-2025

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    @bayimports awesome concept.

    However, like lots of things, I'm believe it when I see it

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    @nzzp said in Electric Vehicles:

    @bayimports awesome concept.

    However, like lots of things, I'm believe it when I see it

    true, but if it got off the ground (pun intended) then I would love to give this a go. Wonder if they have factored in weather conditions lol

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    @bayimports spot on

    I'm sure weather is factored. The Russian plane was insane-worth a look.

    If it goes ahead the way they think, it's a transport revolution

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    Bit if hydrogen crossover

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    VW creates new company and enters global battery business

    VW creates new company and enters global battery business

    VW officially broke the ground on its new battery factory in Germany where production will start in 2025. The responsibility for VW’s global battery business falls to a new company that will invest €20 billion in the area.

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    There are a couple of Tesla Y owners here in Australia doing Federal Highway 1 in opposite directions.

    That's pretty cool. Love to do "The Lap" one day. The record is something like 2 weeks but I'd love to take at least 6 to stop off and see the things I want to spend more time on. About 16,000km with my X-Trail and a swag. Would be rad.

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    @NTA said in Electric Vehicles:

    There are a couple of Tesla Y owners here in Australia doing Federal Highway 1 in opposite directions.

    That's pretty cool. Love to do "The Lap" one day. The record is something like 2 weeks but I'd love to take at least 6 to stop off and see the things I want to spend more time on. About 16,000km with my X-Trail and a swag. Would be rad.

    Fantastic idea and I'd agree, if doing the whole thing shouldn't rush it.

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    @nostrildamus Friends of mine took a year off and toured Oz. They maintain there's heaps they haven't seen.

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    @antipodean My old man did that when he retired but spent five years on the road. Went everywhere you could in a Toyota van. Fruit picked for a season, lived underground in Coober Pedy working an opal plot - had the time of his life.

    Back on topic; my partner bout an EV and last weekend took it on a longish journey for the first time. She shouldn't have as she was sick, got serious range anxiety (unnecessarily) and as a result spent a couple of hours on a trickle charger at (ironically) Huntly Power Station.

    I only became aware of all this when it was already a done dumb deal.

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    Picked up the BYD Atto 3 this week and pretty happy so far. Getting around 15kw/100km so should get 400km range.

    I have a good solar system on the roof so should be able to charge the car cheaply during the day.

    This is my first EV and I'm loving it so far.

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    Sat in the Volvo C40 Recharge EV at the local shopping centre this afternoon.

    Nice compared to my 10yo X-Trail, but then for ~$80k it would fucking want to be. TBH found the interior styling a bit bland, seats comfortable. Back seat room was OK despite the fastback approach.

    Would I buy it? No. But I'll test drive that and the XC40 Recharge just to say I have.

    Fark me I just looked at the Ioniq 5 after an email came through noting a new release - pricing isn't much different to the Volvo! TBH for that money I'd rather have the XC40.

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    Also: seeing Tesla Model Y everywhere, and must say I don't like it. The Model S is nice, the X is horrid, and the 3 is OK. But the Y looks like the result of a mongy Model 3 getting knocked up an X who was its cousin.

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    Got behind the wheel of the I4 recently. With Mrs MR back to the grind I've been doing all the school runs and we need something better for this than our X5 .

    In summary, it's brilliant with one colossal short coming. It drives like a BMW, handles like a BMW, has the fit and finish of a BMW. The steering feel is spot on and the pedal action is exactly how a drivers car should be. I drove the RWD e40 and I'm not sure why you'd want the 4WD M50. Electric acceleration (which is all you get) has absolutely no drama or excitement. Just a painful neck.

    The tech in it is excellent, although I'll concede it's not close to Tesla. But as I've previously said, Tesla has too much for me. I want to drive a car, not an iPhone. I don't see how having karaoke, Netflix etc is going to improve my car.

    The colossal short coming is the price. It's 60k for a decent spec'd base model. Now that's not necessarily bad. But when brand new 420d is sitting right behind you at 43k ... you do wonder what you get for your 17k The 420d will return on average 5-7 litres per 100k. That's a lot of milage for 17k. Lets do some stats with things based in the I4's favour.

    3 years, 30k miles lets say 35% deprec on 420d, 25% deprec on I4. Your cash depreciation is then the same. Using 7 litres for 100km, thats 3500 litres of diesel. Currently at 1.70 thats around 6k. BMW looks to return around 2.5 miles / kw (which isn't great and quite poor compared to Tesla) so you'll use around 12000 kw. Electricity currently around 0.36 per kw, but this is elevated. So lets assume it drops to 0.25 ... then your spend is 3k, so thats roughly half.

    Now, you used to get back on the car tax, which is zero. Vs around 600 for he diesel (as it's over 40k). So in 3 years thats an 1800 saving. That's gone. The electric car is more expensive so will probably be 200/year more to insure. So thats 600 more.

    So now, your 3 year ownership of the I4 is around 2,400 cheaper. And this assumes that the depreciation is slower than on the 420d. Which is one hell of an assumption to make given that the Model 3 has just cut it's list prices by 20%.

    Sorry BMW, it just doesn't add up. Which is a shame, as I bloody loved it. I'm BMW through and through and if you EV doesn't work for me ... I wonder if any ever will?

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