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  • NepiaN Offline
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    @Bones said in How many Crusaders in your AB 23?:

    @Nepia said in How many Crusaders in your AB 23?:

    @Bones said in How many Crusaders in your AB 23?:

    @Nepia said in How many Crusaders in your AB 23?:

    @Bones said in How many Crusaders in your AB 23?:

    @Nepia pretty much. Has Cane?

    B/S, Papali'i is in my 23 but Sat he was off the charts good, he hasn't been that good every match.

    He's been off the charts in one or two other games, but consistently high. It's not BS.

    I note you declined to comment how good Cane has been.

    Cane has been great for a few games running, but we were discussing Papali'i's performance in Saturdays game in comparison to his previous ones.

    I'm sure you'll get some support from the Aucklanders in the morning, I'm sharpening my keyboard for the onslaught, and Papali'i has been good this year, but Saturday was another level.

    Not making a lot of sense to me - he was out of this world on Saturday, but because he was so good, we should exclude all the other games where he was excellent, just because he wasn't as good. Righto.

    That's not what I said at all.

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    @Nepia said in How many Crusaders in your AB 23?:

    @Bones said in How many Crusaders in your AB 23?:

    @Nepia said in How many Crusaders in your AB 23?:

    @Bones said in How many Crusaders in your AB 23?:

    @Nepia said in How many Crusaders in your AB 23?:

    @Bones said in How many Crusaders in your AB 23?:

    @Nepia pretty much. Has Cane?

    B/S, Papali'i is in my 23 but Sat he was off the charts good, he hasn't been that good every match.

    He's been off the charts in one or two other games, but consistently high. It's not BS.

    I note you declined to comment how good Cane has been.

    Cane has been great for a few games running, but we were discussing Papali'i's performance in Saturdays game in comparison to his previous ones.

    I'm sure you'll get some support from the Aucklanders in the morning, I'm sharpening my keyboard for the onslaught, and Papali'i has been good this year, but Saturday was another level.

    Not making a lot of sense to me - he was out of this world on Saturday, but because he was so good, we should exclude all the other games where he was excellent, just because he wasn't as good. Righto.

    That's not what I said at all.

    He’s just assuming and going with it. It’s the fern way

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    @Nepia said in How many Crusaders in your AB 23?:

    @Bones said in How many Crusaders in your AB 23?:

    @Nepia said in How many Crusaders in your AB 23?:

    @Bones said in How many Crusaders in your AB 23?:

    @Nepia said in How many Crusaders in your AB 23?:

    @Bones said in How many Crusaders in your AB 23?:

    @Nepia pretty much. Has Cane?

    B/S, Papali'i is in my 23 but Sat he was off the charts good, he hasn't been that good every match.

    He's been off the charts in one or two other games, but consistently high. It's not BS.

    I note you declined to comment how good Cane has been.

    Cane has been great for a few games running, but we were discussing Papali'i's performance in Saturdays game in comparison to his previous ones.

    I'm sure you'll get some support from the Aucklanders in the morning, I'm sharpening my keyboard for the onslaught, and Papali'i has been good this year, but Saturday was another level.

    Not making a lot of sense to me - he was out of this world on Saturday, but because he was so good, we should exclude all the other games where he was excellent, just because he wasn't as good. Righto.

    That's not what I said at all.

    Go on then, what did you say?

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    @gt12 said in How many Crusaders in your AB 23?:

    And we've never had a player who saw a bit of scandal become an AB captain and media personality.

    Muliaina was never "All Black Captain". He was occasional on-field captain, as a reward for long service. That's a very different thing.

    Aaron Smith is a very good rugby player. He is also not suited to be the public face of a very high profile team. They're different roles.

    And it's not my over-reaction. I just recognise what sponsors want. And indeed, demand.

    On top of that, he's in exactly the same position as Cane -- no longer a certainty to start in the RWC. So making him captain does not solve the problem, it merely repeats it. Especially since he will be replaced quite early in a lot of games regardless.

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    @Chester-Draws said in How many Crusaders in your AB 23?:

    On top of that, he's in exactly the same position as Cane -- no longer a certainty to start in the RWC.

    Disagree strongly. He's clearly the best halfback in New Zealand and relative form doesn't suggest that will change in the next 18 months.

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    @Chester-Draws if Aaron Smith isn’t a certainty then we have massive problems ahead.

    He’s still a class above.

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    @FakatavaFuture said in How many Crusaders in your AB 23?:

    @Billy-Tell makes sense, although throughout the annals of time there's been the odd player i.e Scott Hamilton that felt just like a crusader somehow someway in a black jersey

    Something about digestible head wear ...

    Edit: or was that Sam Broomhall?

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    @booboo said in How many Crusaders in your AB 23?:

    @FakatavaFuture said in How many Crusaders in your AB 23?:

    @Billy-Tell makes sense, although throughout the annals of time there's been the odd player i.e Scott Hamilton that felt just like a crusader somehow someway in a black jersey

    Something about digestible head wear ...

    Edit: or was that Sam Broomhall?

    FABSH was one of the few predictions that came to fruition!

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    None

    LOL

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  • DamoD Offline
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    Will Jordan. Sam Whitelock. Richie Mounga.

    Drawing a blank on anyone else. Maybe Jack Goodhue if he stays fit.

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    @Damo Codie Taylor was poor, missed a crucial tackle and poor throwing, Ethan Blackadder was anonymous.

    I thought Reece was one of thier better players.

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    @taniwharugby said in How many Crusaders in your AB 23?:

    @Damo Codie Taylor was poor, missed a crucial tackle and poor throwing, Ethan Blackadder were anonymous.

    I thought Reece was one of thier better players.

    Blackadder didn't play lol

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    @Chris didn't he...oh, that'll explain it haha.

    That's right, Christie, Grace and Matera.

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  • DamoD Offline
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    @taniwharugby said in How many Crusaders in your AB 23?:

    @Damo Codie Taylor was poor, missed a crucial tackle and poor throwing, Ethan Blackadder was anonymous.

    I thought Reece was one of thier better players.

    Yeah blackadder. Could make it.

    Reece is popular but I don't really rate him. I don't have him in my 23.

    Codie needs to get back to his best. He mightht be past it.

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    @Damo said in How many Crusaders in your AB 23?:

    Reece is popular but I don't really rate him. I don't have him in my 23.

    I like his workrate and his ability to pop up in the right place, he seems to read the game pretty well, his biggest issue is that he can often miss some easy tackles.

    I also dont get the glee some get in the saders losing, for me, I want every single NZ team to win over any foreign opposition, although MP & the Drua have created a conundrum there as I want both to do well.

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    @taniwharugby said in How many Crusaders in your AB 23?:

    I also dont get the glee some get in the saders losing, for me,

    Its for the good of SRP. One team always winning and Aussie team always losing will almost kill it

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    @Winger that isn't the same thing.

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    @Damo said in How many Crusaders in your AB 23?:

    Reece is popular but I don't really rate him. I don't have him in my 23.

    I really rate him. His workrate is strong, his work over the ball is superb (see the penalty he won last night), the first two steps are electric (see the SA game in 2019).

    That said, he's light. If you carry him, you compromise - need to carry bigger players around. It's like the loosies all over again; if you pick Cane cos he's captain, you need a lineout option at 6 or 8 ... and if you want your best athlete in Ardie at 8, then yo uneed peak Jerome equivalent at 6, who can also kick goals, drive the bus, coach teh side, etc ... I jest, but the compromises start to bite when yo uneed a world beater or two at 6 (one to cover bench/injury).

    Reece is the same for me, but slighly less so because of where he plays. Some really really good things, but some weaknesses too

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    Is there any glee? I hadn't noticed any.

    But in any event a competition where the results are predictable makes for a boring watch.

    The Crusaders losing occasionally is no bad thing.

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    @Damo said in How many Crusaders in your AB 23?:

    Is there any glee? I hadn't noticed any.

    But in any event a competition where the results are predictable makes for a boring watch.

    The Crusaders losing occasionally is no bad thing.

    More frustration IMO, as the players struggling have been struggling in the ABs as well.

    One person’s reputation that improved yesterday was Richie Mounga. He’s been papering over some pretty large cracks by the looks of things.

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