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  • Chris B.C Offline
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    @Tim said in All Blacks 2022:

    QUESTIONS!

    Who do you think will be in the 23 for the first test if everyone is available?

    Who would you pick from this squad for the 23 for the first test if everyone is available?

    Me: Bower, Sam T, Ofa, SBarrett, Retallick, Ioane, Savea, Sotutu, Smith, BBarrett*, Reece, Goodhue, Ioane, Jordan, Jordie
    Taylor, Ross, Laulala, Whitelock, Cane, Christie, Mo'unga*, Clarke

    • This might change on Saturday night!

    Fozzie: Bower, Taylor, Laulala, Retallick, Whitelock, Ioane, Cane, Savea, Smith, Barrett, Reece, (12. Any of four?), Ioane, Jordan Jordie
    Sam T., Big Karl, Ofa, Barrett, Papalií if fit, Christie, Mo'unga, (Any of three remaining midfielders).

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    Steven Harris
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    @Tim , just has’nt developed into the international prop i thought he he could be ,rocks and diamonds , more rocks in recent years stand to be corrected on Ofa but boy there are times in find myself being more frustated with him most of the time and then he comes up with a big hit or an awesome carry , just need to see more consistancy

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  • KirwanK Offline
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    @Steven-Harris said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Tim , just has’nt developed into the international prop i thought he he could be ,rocks and diamonds , more rocks in recent years stand to be corrected on Ofa but boy there are times in find myself being more frustated with him most of the time and then he comes up with a big hit or an awesome carry , just need to see more consistancy

    Which is exactly what's happened in 2022. He's been phenonemal for the Blues

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    #2557

    @nzzp I was going to also say, I reckon there must be well over double or triple the number of resets than actual scrums

    Ref plays a part in resets too, I mean the stat that Pickerill has more restarts than other refs, what is he dong wrong to cause/allow that? Or is he more accurate there and other refs giving leeway....

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    @Kirwan , i think phenomenal is bit of stretch , i think Papalii pre injury was phenomenal , maybe even Perofeta ..i would still put Ofa T in the reasonably good category .
    Is he a starting AB prop …?, not in my book.

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    Good to see the back of TJP Bridge and Frizzel

    Good to see the inclusion of RTS

    Loose mix is stupid. 2 opensides, 3 #8s and one blindside.
    Havili is a wasted selection as the entire pattern relies on RI staying fit. There is no like for like replacement.
    I have a funny feeling LF has been promoted above his ceiling.

    Pretty ordinary set of props, but that's what we got. Need to Craig Bellamy that shit and give them very specific tasks.

    Predictable locks but if they play like last year we're fucked.

    Squad was entirely predictable really, the real fun will be when the first test team is selected.

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    Happy for Folau! nothing else to really add

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  • Chris B.C Offline
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    Some omissions (people mentioned in despatches):

    Hodgman, de Groot, Aumua, Lomax, Newell, Patty T., Jacobson, Robinson, MMT, Grace, TJP, Weber, Ennor, Sullivan, Bridge, Telea.

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    @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2022:

    Is this the most average looking All Blacks team for a while? I feel like there are so many ??, not a good thing 1 year out from a World Cup.

    Hang on. This is only a couple of selections away from what we all expected or would have selected. Jumping on the negative pretty quickly aren't you?

    Piss of with your logic Crucial. Now is the time to be ANGRY.

    FOSTER'S FAT.

    not 100% what I'd have picked, but there you go.

    Would have Groot over The Lorax, Ginge (and Jacobsen but no room for both) ahead of PGS, Sullivan ahead of LF, and looked closely at an alternative to Ta'avao (Newell).

    But otherwise looks OK.

    Not the least whelming team in ages as has been suggested.

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  • DuluthD Offline
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    @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:

    Loose mix is stupid. 2 opensides, 3 #8s and one blindside.

    PGS would be a 6

    At times the in 2021 the Chiefs used a similar loose forward pattern to the Blues & ABs. PGW started 5 times at 6 last year

    It's like if MMT made the side he would've been a 6 not an 8

    It seems we have clear roles between the positions now. Personally I would've gone for MMT but it seems we have two of each role:

    Cane & Papali'i
    Savea & Sotutu
    Ioane & PGS

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    @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:

    I have a funny feeling LF has been promoted above his ceiling.

    I think there’s room for improvement - footwork and timing being two areas - but he runs hard and straight, knows how to offload in traffic and given he’s only 22, time is well and truly on his side.

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    @FakatavaAllBlack said in All Blacks 2022:

    Happy for Folau! nothing else to really add

    You do realise he needs to get a haircut? That stupid shit is OK at ITM and Super for comedy value but he has to wear the black jersey now

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    Sullivan is one of my favourite players, but personally I feel he can go missing for large parts of a game. He's dangerous in space, but I don't think he'll see too much against Ireland (particularly in our backline). I'd prefer to see Nankivell or TUJ, at this point.

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    @Tim said in All Blacks 2022:

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/128944394/all-blacks-the-five-unluckiest-players-to-miss-selection

    He lost me at TJP. Otherwise yeah.

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  • StagS Offline
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    The weakest front row and loose forward selections I have seen in an All Blacks squad for a long time.

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    @Stag said in All Blacks 2022:

    The weakest front row and loose forward selections I have seen in an All Blacks squad for a long time.

    Have you watched any Blues games this season? Paps, Sotutu and Ioane have almost the perfect mix and synergy and I would be over the moon to have them in the AB's.

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    replied to Chris B. on last edited by
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    @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:

    Some omissions (people mentioned in despatches):

    Hodgman, de Groot, Aumua, Lomax, Newell, Patty T., Jacobson, Robinson, MMT, Grace, TJP, Weber, Ennor, Sullivan, Bridge, Telea.

    We in pretty good spot when those omissions are made and not really too much argument I think

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  • TimT Away
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    Any news on Smith's groin injury?

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    replied to Tim on last edited by
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    @Tim said in All Blacks 2022:

    Any news on Smith's groin injury?

    that needs a (serious) tag right?

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  • StargazerS Offline
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    replied to Crucial on last edited by
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    @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

    @FakatavaAllBlack said in All Blacks 2022:

    Happy for Folau! nothing else to really add

    You do realise he needs to get a haircut? That stupid shit is OK at ITM and Super for comedy value but he has to wear the black jersey now

    He's hardly the only one with a mullet. The blond noodles have long gone.

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