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  • ChrisC Offline
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    @canefan said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

    @antipodean said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

    @chimoaus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

    If Foster doesn't resign now what happens if we lose to Oz and Sa in the Championship. At what point do they make a change.

    Yup. Just kiss the RWC goodbye next year. Its done

    We should not even turn up and save the embarrassment.

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    @stodders said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

    If ABs lose the series, is that the "fall on the sword" moment for Foster?

    You would hope that there would be some serious thinking going on. But after the Ardie sub fuck-up tonight, I'm not so sure.

    Maybe Sam, being a decent bloke, will step down as captain and that might spark some change

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    @Chris said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

    @canefan said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

    @antipodean said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

    @chimoaus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

    If Foster doesn't resign now what happens if we lose to Oz and Sa in the Championship. At what point do they make a change.

    Yup. Just kiss the RWC goodbye next year. Its done

    We should not even turn up and save the embarrassment.

    We're not turning up to games right now!

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    BREAKING NEWS
    Kakapos are no long on their own as the most endangered species in NZ, Fozzie has inow joined the critically endangered species list.

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  • ChrisC Offline
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    @canefan said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

    @Chris said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

    @canefan said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

    @antipodean said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

    @chimoaus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

    If Foster doesn't resign now what happens if we lose to Oz and Sa in the Championship. At what point do they make a change.

    Yup. Just kiss the RWC goodbye next year. Its done

    We should not even turn up and save the embarrassment.

    We're not turning up to games right now!

    That’s my point.

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    I’m going to come back at my point on Cane by pointing out that he led the team for tackles (13,1) and that Paps was the least busy with (5,0), so maybe it is early to put it on Cane.

    The guys up front might be a bit different, even Scooters stats aren’t that good.

    Ofa’s are a fucking nightmare - 5 penalties and a YC, 2 missed tackles and all of 6 metres.

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    Out of curiosity are the midfield bombs where we gift possession to the opposite team a tactic or does BB and AS really think it's a good idea?

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    @canefan said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

    @Chris said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

    @canefan said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

    @antipodean said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

    @chimoaus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

    If Foster doesn't resign now what happens if we lose to Oz and Sa in the Championship. At what point do they make a change.

    Yup. Just kiss the RWC goodbye next year. Its done

    We should not even turn up and save the embarrassment.

    We're not turning up to games right now!

    That's the frustrating thing - we do turn up.

    And then, more often than not, we pack our bags and bugger off.

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    @Mattasaurus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

    BREAKING NEWS
    Kakapos are no long on their own as the most endangered species in NZ, Fozzie has inow joined the critically endangered species list.

    But luckily, the Old Boys Club came to the rescue with a Jobs For the Boys card just in the nick of time for another season

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    @Mattasaurus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

    BREAKING NEWS
    Kakapos are no long on their own as the most endangered species in NZ, Fozzie has inow joined the critically endangered species list.

    At least he won't starve to death.

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    We had an amazing run. Between 2008 and 2018 we were the best team by miles. But like all good dynasties eventually they crumble as the quality of leadership declines. But we will rise anew from the ashes, we always do

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    @Mattasaurus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

    BREAKING NEWS
    Kakapos are no long on their own as the most endangered species in NZ, Fozzie has inow joined the critically endangered species list.

    Sell any share in McDonalds & Burger King?

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    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

    @gt12 said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

    @stodders said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

    @gt12 said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

    @Tim said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

    @Frank Taylor, Retallick, Cane.

    Ha ha, snap.
    Maybe Stuart Barnes was right about Cane 🤔

    I love him, but he just looks slow.

    He’s working his ass off, but he’s not impactful and won’t be a better player next year. It’s not that he’s a poor player, he’s just no longer the best 7 in the country.

    He would be in the squad and he can help to develop Dalton, but he shouldn’t be captain and most likely shouldn’t be starting.

    I rate him as an All Black and don't anyone else would do better as Captain, but I have to question his quality of play. Whether it's the balance of the loose trio or he's longer got it, he just doesn't have the impact he once did

    Good post. I had a look at the stats and I’m reassessing my position. With a loosie down, its probably unfair to put it on Cane as his role is to be the worker of the group. That’s likely why having Paps paired with him doesn’t work, as Paps is basically bigger younger Sam Cane.

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    @canefan said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

    We had an amazing run. Between 2008 and 2018 we were the best team by miles. But like all good dynasties eventually they crumble as the quality of leadership declines. But we will rise anew from the ashes, we always do

    In the past, even our ashes still managed to keep records against Ireland and Argentina intact...

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    @chimoaus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

    Out of curiosity are the midfield bombs where we gift possession to the opposite team a tactic or does BB and AS really think it's a good idea?

    It's team tactics. Has to be

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    @Donsteppa said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

    @canefan said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

    We had an amazing run. Between 2008 and 2018 we were the best team by miles. But like all good dynasties eventually they crumble as the quality of leadership declines. But we will rise anew from the ashes, we always do

    In the past, even our ashes still managed to keep records against Ireland and Argentina intact...

    The gap has closed to be fair

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    @canefan said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

    We had an amazing run. Between 2008 and 2018 we were the best team by miles. But like all good dynasties eventually they crumble as the quality of leadership declines. But we will rise anew from the ashes, we always do

    I'm old enough to have seen this 2-3 times - just never as bad as this.

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  • DonsteppaD Offline
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    @canefan said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

    @chimoaus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

    Out of curiosity are the midfield bombs where we gift possession to the opposite team a tactic or does BB and AS really think it's a good idea?

    It's team tactics. Has to be

    Is Ian Foster actually Leigh Hart in disguise?

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    @canefan said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

    @chimoaus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

    Out of curiosity are the midfield bombs where we gift possession to the opposite team a tactic or does BB and AS really think it's a good idea?

    It's team tactics. Has to be

    I'm still spitting about the 'taking the player past the ruck' calls. there's some made up shit in there

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    @Canerbry said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

    @canefan said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

    @Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

    Ireland has done us a favour.
    Test rugby has always been about the team that makes the less mistakes wins. As a person who experienced test rugby in the 70s (can't remember much to be honest), the 80s, 90s up to now, the rugby that the ABs play now doesn't feel like test rugby. There is a lack of territorial awareness which means a lack of pragmatic kicking, they invite chaos near their line which more often than not has negative results, etc, etc.
    It is hard to explain but in the Foster era, they give it up too easily.

    We have no desire to play the territory game

    Because our 10 has a shit territory game.

    Richie will be better next time.

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