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    @Bovidae said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

    Newshub was making a big deal about Mark Robinson being at the ABs training yesterday. NZR is based in Wellington, of course.

    you know if he HADN'T been there they would have said that meant something too 🤷🏻♂

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    @Kiwiwomble maybe he was there giving our centres some tips...

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    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

    @Kiwiwomble maybe he was there giving our centres some tips...

    A USB stick full of videos of Ma’a and Conrad hopefully.

    Edit: Just typing that out made me shake my head. How blessed were we to have had that team?

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    @JC said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

    @Kiwiwomble maybe he was there giving our centres some tips...

    A USB stick full of videos of Ma’a and Conrad hopefully.

    Edit: Just typing that out made me shake my head. How blessed were we to have had that team?

    The drop off was always going to be painful

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    This will be the 50th Test for Rieko

    42 Tests were starts
    10 of those starts are at 13

    Still only 25 and now playing in a position where ABs have played well into their 30s

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    @Duluth hopefully he keeps growing his game at 13 - he has made big improvements and if he gels well with RTS that could be a primo combo for the next few years.

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    @Paekakboyz said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

    @Duluth hopefully he keeps growing his game at 13 - he has made big improvements and if he gels well with RTS that could be a primo combo for the next few years.

    ….for the Blues, yes….

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    @Paekakboyz said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

    @Duluth hopefully he keeps growing his game at 13 - he has made big improvements and if he gels well with RTS that could be a primo combo for the next few years.

    The only way that is going to happen is if we get a real kicking game from our fullback. Maybe I'm the only one, but I think Jordie is playing like shit / not being used effectively at fullback.

    We could probably really use Dmac's kicking game and ability to move to first receiver, as Barrett seems to be essentially at fullback during the kicking duels.

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    Maybe Perofeta is worth looking at. BB and him already have that combination

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    @Duluth said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

    @gt12

    Maybe Perofeta is worth looking at. BB and him already have that combination

    That's an excellent point.

    I see why they've brought in Havili, but I wonder whether we would be better have Jordie up in the midfield and a more effective game driving fullback.

    Hopefully we'll see some effective kicks in play from Havili because we need them.

    Edit: JK was making sense on the breakdown pod today, for those who subscribe.

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    It would also open up space on the bench by not needing a ten.

    We could have a halfback, specialist midfielder and specialist outside back

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    @Dice said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

    @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

    @pakman manukau , close

    Isn't he from Mangere?

    I think Tupou Vaai might be from Otara.

    Yep Jonah was from Mangere. He lived next street down from me, Quennell Ave I think.

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    @Paekakboyz said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

    @Duluth hopefully he keeps growing his game at 13 - he has made big improvements and if he gels well with RTS that could be a primo combo for the next few years.

    Yep agreed. I think we can safely say barring some unforeseen incident or rise of some other option, the days of Rieko on the wing are over.

    At super level, RTS’s lack of a kicking game isn’t a worry. At test level it’s a massive hole so like Nonu before him RTS needs to develop one pronto.

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    Why is RTS' (rumoured) lack of a kicking game a problem, but it's not a problem for Tupaea? Even Goodhue very rarely kicks. Anyone got any strong memories of one of ALBs pearlers off the boot?

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    @Bones yes for ALB. No for the other two. I think RTS far better suited to be a winger. Don't get Blues picking him solely as a 12.

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    @gt12 said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

    @Paekakboyz said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

    @Duluth hopefully he keeps growing his game at 13 - he has made big improvements and if he gels well with RTS that could be a primo combo for the next few years.

    The only way that is going to happen is if we get a real kicking game from our fullback. Maybe I'm the only one, but I think Jordie is playing like shit / not being used effectively at fullback.

    We could probably really use Dmac's kicking game and ability to move to first receiver, as Barrett seems to be essentially at fullback during the kicking duels.

    I love DMac and his kicking game, not sure how he would have gone with his side to side running against the Irish though

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    @Bones said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

    Why is RTS' (rumoured) lack of a kicking game a problem, but it's not a problem for Tupaea? Even Goodhue very rarely kicks. Anyone got any strong memories of one of ALBs pearlers off the boot?

    That’s what we’re missing. None of our 12’s have a strong kicking game to speak of. It would be advantageous to have another kicking option outside of Smith, Barrett & JBarrett.

    Even Nonu developed a rudimentary one towards the back half of his career. Good short kicking game, serviceable long game.

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    @TheMojoman said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

    @Bones said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

    Why is RTS' (rumoured) lack of a kicking game a problem, but it's not a problem for Tupaea? Even Goodhue very rarely kicks. Anyone got any strong memories of one of ALBs pearlers off the boot?

    That’s what we’re missing. None of our 12’s have a strong kicking game to speak of. It would be advantageous to have another kicking option outside of Smith, Barrett & JBarrett.

    Even Nonu developed a rudimentary one towards the back half of his career. Good short kicking game, serviceable long game.

    Jordan and Clarke are both good kickers, we actually have a few options there.

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    @TheMojoman said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

    @Bones said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

    Why is RTS' (rumoured) lack of a kicking game a problem, but it's not a problem for Tupaea? Even Goodhue very rarely kicks. Anyone got any strong memories of one of ALBs pearlers off the boot?

    That’s what we’re missing. None of our 12’s have a strong kicking game to speak of. It would be advantageous to have another kicking option outside of Smith, Barrett & JBarrett.

    Even Nonu developed a rudimentary one towards the back half of his career. Good short kicking game, serviceable long game.

    Oh sure, but RTS needs to develop a kicking game is what I keep reading. I'm struggling to recall any of our other 12 options being known for their kicking - but only RTS needs to do so.

    Edit: and Nonu had an excellent short kicking game, but that's kinda irrelevant now

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    I'm not sure the 12 has to have an epic kicking game. As long as the team has good kickers. Just off the top of my head Ireland use Park, Sexton and Lowe the majority of the time. Does their 12 kick much?

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