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  • SmudgeS Do not disturb
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    wrote on last edited by Smudge
    #43

    Will get the usual complaint from people who don't respect horse racing, but the fact James McDonald - who is officially rated as the best jockey in the world - cannot get the nod ahead of some of these sportsman of the year finalists is nothing short of farcical.

    EDIT: fuk u @mariner4life for posting just before me.

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  • JKJ Offline
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    @mariner4life

    With all due respect to the other nominees, this is an absolute travesty of epic proportions. Not sure how the worlds best jockey can be overlooked like this.

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    @Smudge said in Halberg Awards:

    Will get the usual complaint from people who don't respect horse racing, but the fact James McDonald - who is officially rated as the best jockey in the world - cannot get the nod ahead of some of these sportsman of the year finalists is nothing short of farcical.

    EDIT: fuk u @mariner4life for posting just before me.

    it's fucking ridiculous! A fucking trampoliner??? That's a toy you buy your kids and they grow out of by the time they are 12
    Squash? A sport played exclusively by Wall St hedge fund managers and stock brokers in movies.
    A V8 Bogan car driver? In a class raced only in Australia? Which non-sport watching dipshits voted on this crap?

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    #46

    Oh c'mon, in horse racing it's the horse that should be nominated, not the jockey!

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    @Stargazer said in Halberg Awards:

    Oh c'mon, in horse racing it's the horse that should be nominated, not the jockey!

    And our last finalist is Shane van Gisbergen's engine

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  • SmudgeS Do not disturb
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    @Stargazer said in Halberg Awards:

    Oh c'mon, in horse racing it's the horse that should be nominated, not the jockey!

    Split second decision making is the difference between an OK jockey and a great jockey, and JMac makes the right call 98% of the time. Plus, put simply, horses run for some jockeys more than others.

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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    #49

    Steven Alker should at least have been nominated.

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    @Smudge said in Halberg Awards:

    @Stargazer said in Halberg Awards:

    Oh c'mon, in horse racing it's the horse that should be nominated, not the jockey!

    Split second decision making is the difference between an OK jockey and a great jockey, and JMac makes the right call 98% of the time. Plus, put simply, horses run for some jockeys more than others.

    Add to that, strength, discipline , vision, balance and courage.

    If these things werenโ€™t real and difficult, we would see wins shared pretty evenly amongst the jockeys every year.

    We do not

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  • SmudgeS Do not disturb
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    #51

    I'd also make the point NZ has produced the best jockey in the world in 2022 (JMac) and the best harness driver in America (and really the world) in Dexter Dunn. Two generational talents at the absolute top of their respective games at the same time.

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    @Smudge said in Halberg Awards:

    @Stargazer said in Halberg Awards:

    Oh c'mon, in horse racing it's the horse that should be nominated, not the jockey!

    Split second decision making is the difference between an OK jockey and a great jockey, and JMac makes the right call 98% of the time. Plus, put simply, horses run for some jockeys more than others.

    Fucking Amen.

    Youโ€™d be fucking ignorant to suggest otherwise

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  • JKJ Offline
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    @taniwharugby said in Halberg Awards:

    Steven Alker should at least have been nominated.

    Agree! Our golfers have really represented on the world stage this year. Lydia gets the obvious mention but Steve has been phenomenal

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    @voodoo said in Halberg Awards:

    @Smudge said in Halberg Awards:

    @Stargazer said in Halberg Awards:

    Oh c'mon, in horse racing it's the horse that should be nominated, not the jockey!

    Split second decision making is the difference between an OK jockey and a great jockey, and JMac makes the right call 98% of the time. Plus, put simply, horses run for some jockeys more than others.

    Add to that, strength, discipline , vision, balance and courage.

    If these things werenโ€™t real and difficult, we would see wins shared pretty evenly amongst the jockeys every year.

    We do not

    Anyone who doesn't think elite jockeys are athletes have never seen them train

    Their power to weight ratios would be incredible

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    #55

    @mariner4life said in Halberg Awards:

    @Smudge said in Halberg Awards:

    Will get the usual complaint from people who don't respect horse racing, but the fact James McDonald - who is officially rated as the best jockey in the world - cannot get the nod ahead of some of these sportsman of the year finalists is nothing short of farcical.

    EDIT: fuk u @mariner4life for posting just before me.

    it's fucking ridiculous! A fucking trampoliner??? That's a toy you buy your kids and they grow out of by the time they are 12
    > Squash? A sport played exclusively by Wall St hedge fund managers and stock brokers in movies.
    A V8 Bogan car driver? In a class raced only in Australia? Which non-sport watching dipshits voted on this crap?

    Although I'm sure your jockey point has serious merit, you must at least acknowledge the irony here ...

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    #56

    @Stargazer said in Halberg Awards:

    Oh c'mon, in horse racing it's the horse that should be nominated, not the jockey!

    @Stargazer said in Halberg Awards:

    ISPS Handa Sportsman on the Year:
    ...
    Shane van Gisbergen (motorsport)

    ISPS Handa Team of the Year:
    ...
    New Zealand Eventing Team (equestrian

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  • StargazerS Offline
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    #57

    Next time, I'll use an emoji, guys! Take a pick: ๐ŸŽฃ ๐Ÿ˜› ๐Ÿ˜‰ ๐Ÿ˜œ ๐Ÿ˜‚

    Edited to add that I'd support an award going to a jockey and his horse more than just going to the jockey alone. It's the horse who's doing the hardest work.

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  • mariner4lifeM Online
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    @MajorRage said in Halberg Awards:

    @mariner4life said in Halberg Awards:

    @Smudge said in Halberg Awards:

    Will get the usual complaint from people who don't respect horse racing, but the fact James McDonald - who is officially rated as the best jockey in the world - cannot get the nod ahead of some of these sportsman of the year finalists is nothing short of farcical.

    EDIT: fuk u @mariner4life for posting just before me.

    it's fucking ridiculous! A fucking trampoliner??? That's a toy you buy your kids and they grow out of by the time they are 12
    > Squash? A sport played exclusively by Wall St hedge fund managers and stock brokers in movies.
    A V8 Bogan car driver? In a class raced only in Australia? Which non-sport watching dipshits voted on this crap?

    Although I'm sure your jockey point has serious merit, you must at least acknowledge the irony here ...

    I acknowledge nothing

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  • SmudgeS Do not disturb
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    #59

    @Stargazer said in Halberg Awards:

    Next time, I'll use an emoji, guys! Take a pick: ๐ŸŽฃ ๐Ÿ˜› ๐Ÿ˜‰ ๐Ÿ˜œ ๐Ÿ˜‚

    Edited to add that I'd support an award going to a jockey and his horse more than just going to the jockey alone. It's the horse who's doing the hardest work.

    All very well but jockeys don't just ride one horse - they're often riding 5 or 6 on a day. Plus it's "sportsman" of the year.

    Let's just be very clear here - racing is across all six inhabited continents. It is a global sport and based on McDonald's efforts (even in largely Australia) he has been rated as the world's best.

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  • antipodeanA Online
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    How good can he be if he can't even get nominated for a Halberg?

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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    If there is an Olympic or Commonwealth games those athletes will always dominate the nominations that year. I'd be very surprised if Gate and Andrews don't win.

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    @Bovidae said in Halberg Awards:

    If there is an Olympic or Commonwealth games those athletes will always dominate the nominations that year. I'd be very surprised if Gate and Andrews don't win.

    Maybe Zoi over Andrewโ€™s but both would be worthy.

    ZSS was first ever Winter Olympics Gold for NZ. That must gain some votes.

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