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    Old Samurai Jack
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    #1503

    Play well, lose and it can't be helped. But we have had this crap for a long time now and as fans, we'll be painted as bad losers for complaining about the shite the ABs keep dishing up.

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    @nzzp said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

    @ARHS said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

    Hmm. Two big turn points cost us.

    no mention of WJ's brain explosion?

    That was a real costly9and poor), and I thought we never recovered, as soon as he went on French started attacking that side of field. Just didn't get it right in second half, I felt a bit for Papali'i , he tries hard, but struggles to make an impact at this level. We certainly struggles to get cleaners to rucks etc, Telea was left exposed on ground a few times after tackle.

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    gt12
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    Incredibly, our defense is the least of our problems, but most posters would drop Stormey from the coaching set up.

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    #1506

    I think the coaching box deserve some of the criticism, the subs were awfual, particularly taking Smith off, or was that simply a concession?

    Was daft sending Jordan back on, already on a YC and had already been pinged twice for touching the man in the air, instead you sub off our most dangerous back.

    Brain dead tactics on field, dumb off too.

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    @Billy-Tell said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

    The ABs remind me of Scotland these days. Mostly loose against the good sides but capable of the odd upset.

    Now THAT is how you insult a team !

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    Steve
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    TV analysis here saying New Zealand have no gain line breakers.

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    gt12
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    #1509

    39% territory (51% possession!).

    Fantastic basic rugby by France and ridiculous strategy and tactics from our game drivers.

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    canefan
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    @Steve said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

    TV analysis here saying New Zealand have no gain line breakers.

    We gained just fine in the first half. A combination of tactics and poor performance saw us hand that win to the French who profited off our mistakes and grew in confidence

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    #1511

    @gt12 The tactic seemed to be to use Vaa'i as a passer in the midifeld. The only time he had the ball as a runner he dropped it. Whitelock made the least tackles of any of the starting pack (4 and 1 miss).

    But yes, Finau should have been selected.

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    gt12
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    #1512

    I love(d) me some ALB, but 2 runs, 2 metres, 3 tackles, and 1 miss do not a good inside center make.

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    @sparky said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

    @Bull-Dusta said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

    Be sure to beat Italy in the pool,

    Really? I’m anything but sure about that game now.

    I predict they’ll hammer Italy and paper over a few cracks

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    canefan
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    #1514

    Sotutu and Akira are sitting at home laughing not laughing. I am as unconvinced by Akira as anyone. But there is a player in there waiting to get out, and he's done more in black than Finau, Vaai or Stevenson

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    Jailbreak7
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    #1515

    I dont think we tried in that2nd half. They were diving and trying it on all over the place.

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    @MN5 said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

    @sparky said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

    @Bull-Dusta said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

    Be sure to beat Italy in the pool,

    Really? I’m anything but sure about that game now.

    I predict they’ll hammer Italy and paper over a few cracks

    You're assuming that Foster won't select the C team from the squad...

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    canefan
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    @gt12 said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

    I love(d) me some ALB, but 2 runs, 2 metres, 3 tackles, and 1 miss do not a good inside center make.

    I said pregame that he's a busted flush. If JB isn't there we are fucked

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    #1518

    Vai’i was more Rueben Thorne than prime Rueben Thorne in that game.

    I never remember the suitcase dropping it cold in attack though so he outdid him there.

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    @Dan54 said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

    @nzzp said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

    @ARHS said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

    Hmm. Two big turn points cost us.

    no mention of WJ's brain explosion?

    That was a real costly9and poor), and I thought we never recovered, as soon as he went on French started attacking that side of field. Just didn't get it right in second half, I felt a bit for Papali'i , he tries hard, but struggles to make an impact at this level. We certainly struggles to get cleaners to rucks etc, Telea was left exposed on ground a few times after tackle.

    Yeah, but we should have the on-field smarts to deal with that. We haven't since 2016 and Foster isn't the man to bring them back.

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    #1520

    Will Jordan’s tackle of the player in the air that led to his yellow card is one of the most stupid things I’ve seen by an international player. Just incredibly dumb and was always going to be a Yellow Card.

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    @MN5 said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

    @sparky said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

    @Bull-Dusta said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

    Be sure to beat Italy in the pool,

    Really? I’m anything but sure about that game now.

    I predict they’ll hammer Italy and paper over a few cracks

    Course we will. Our backs will be too good for them. We are too good for the majority of the teams in the world, but we can't take France and South Africa when push comes to shove. I think it is entirely possible we take Ireland and Australia and make the final, because that is how tournament sport works.

    Heck, if we get everyone back fit, in a one off game we are good enough to win this tournament. It is tournament sport at the end of the day, the best side won't always win the tournament.

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    Mattasaurus
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    @No-Quarter said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

    It was a weird game in the heat. Fozzie said "the hotter the better" for us, so I suspect we felt the French would run out of steam. And that absolutely was the case in the first 40, we were excellent and both Beauden and Mo'unga win multiple kicking duals with them, and by the final 10 minutes the French were out on their feet. We really needed to capitalise here but we failed to put in enough points.

    I'd say the French would have been unhappy at how much Beauden and Mo'unga were allowed to dictate play in the first half, so came out in the 2nd 40 with a very clear plan to return to basics and pin us in our own half as much as possible. We didn't adapt to this, and got suffocated out of the game - that's the biggest concern, as SA and Ireland will try and do exactly the same thing, so we have to figure out a way to counter it.

    However, if we can get some key players fit by the quarter we are every chance. We've always said our depth was thin coming into this, so the number of injuries has obviously hurt.

    Felt we chocked ourselves out rather being suffocated - just didn't even look to clear from our own half ..... France simply didn't want to play in their own half and didn't - this was further enabled by our deep uncontestable restarts and persistence in CHOOSING not to exit from our own territory.

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