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    @His-Bobness said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

    @Victor-Meldrew Quite. Well, we know who Captain Mainwaring is!!

    We could be Hogan's Heroes

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    Quick report from your local correspondent here in fucking hot Paris:

    Backroom full of donkeys. Vaai, predictability, the worst of them. Tight five carried them. In as much as you can call that display "carried".

    De Groot will want to forget that game in a hurry. ALB was MIA after that beautiful pop pass to Rieko.
    Will Jordan is obviously a very dimwitted slow learner. Jump to contest you fuckwomble.

    Beaudy was bloody good until the final quarter. As was Mounga.

    The blame for you Foster haters needs to be apportioned to the rest of the coaching staff who have had plenty of time to address the obvious issues. This was a collective display of incompetence.

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    @taniwharugby said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

    If I was to take any positive out of that, it was that we did enough to win that game if we had an ounce of game smarts...we could have had that almost out reach after 40, but gee, when did we become so fucking stubborn with our tactics and inability to adjust?

    About six years ago.

    At not once in his four years has Foster shown any signs of a desire to adjust. He has been quite plain, even when losing badly, that he thinks things are on track.

    The ABs played OK in the first half, but we were still not leading. And there lies the real problem. We aren't very good even when playing well.

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    #1575

    One positive - for all the bitching about the jersey it was fine.

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    @MN5 said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

    @canefan said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

    @Chris said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

    I can’t agree with this as Coke Zero is good for you.

    What you talking about Willis?

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    According to Rugby Database, for the first time in All Blacks history, they have lost two tests in a row by 13 or more points. They lost by 28 against the Springboks at Twickenham and by 14 to France today.

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    @antipodean said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

    Quick report from your local correspondent here in fucking hot Paris:

    Backroom full of donkeys. Vaai, predictability, the worst of them. Tight five carried them. In as much as you can call that display "carried".

    De Groot will want to forget that game in a hurry. ALB was MIA after that beautiful pop pass to Rieko.
    Will Jordan is obviously a very dimwitted slow learner. Jump to contest you fuckwomble.

    Beaudy was bloody good until the final quarter. As was Mounga.

    The blame for you Foster haters needs to be apportioned to the rest of the coaching staff who have had plenty of time to address the obvious issues. This was a collective display of incompetence.

    The buck stops at the head coach. And with Ryan and Schmidt we have had some games which forwards really muscled up and attack was good versus decent opposition. Prior to them, none. So yes Ryan and Schmidt are part of the selectors and coaching team, but there has been improvement with them on board. Foster has the final say, and the midfield bomb/millions of short kicks/play in your own 22 has been the default under the entire foster tenure. And that leads to our losses

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  • BerniesCornerB Offline
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    #1579

    1/4 final
    No worries
    Run it but not in own half
    Own half kick it as hard as you can
    JB SF TL back in.
    Roigard sub
    Abolish dinks
    NZR are idiots

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    @ARHS said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

    Hmm. Two big turn points cost us. Substitution of Aaron Smith and a howler from Finlay Christie totally lost momentum. Brain explosion from Dalton Papalii in front of the ref cost us heavily and he could have been pinged a couple of minutes later.
    Tactics seemed daft in second half. What on earth did Havili bring? Can't quite figure out average kicking game. Mounga saved his day with the glorious try saving tackle. Beauden and Will Jordan were a real mixed bag for me.
    Pluses were Mark Telea with his energy, the form of our locks with Brodie back and the work of Ardie in the second half.
    Jacobson did a lot of good stuff when he came on. Was Vaii the right selection at 6?
    French were great with Mauvaka Alldritt and Penaud standouts for me. Thought Jaco Peyper was very good.
    Final comment is why the hell do you sub Telea in that situation when Will Jordan is so rocks and diamonds.
    Correction. 3 turn points with the stereotypical high risk turned bad moment from Will Jordan

    3 points instead of 5. For me that was it.

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  • MN5M Offline
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    #1581

    Will Jordan who I’ve previously admired for being so cool and calm under pressure chose a terrible moment to shit the bed it must be said

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    #1582

    What a list Fozzy has

    First home loss to Ireland
    First series loss to Ireland
    First loss to Argentina
    First home loss to Argentina
    Largest ever defeat
    First ever pool loss at a World Cup

    Just to name a few…

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  • DamoD Offline
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    We ought to have been comfortably ahead at half time. It isn't unusual for All Black teams to be low on possession/territory but it is unusual for them not to convert opportunities into points.

    They will be better with Frizzel, Jordie and Cane back in.

    I was not expecting to win this one. We performed about to expectation. At least no injuries and we fight another day.

    We'

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    @Machpants said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

    @antipodean said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

    Quick report from your local correspondent here in fucking hot Paris:

    Backroom full of donkeys. Vaai, predictability, the worst of them. Tight five carried them. In as much as you can call that display "carried".

    De Groot will want to forget that game in a hurry. ALB was MIA after that beautiful pop pass to Rieko.
    Will Jordan is obviously a very dimwitted slow learner. Jump to contest you fuckwomble.

    Beaudy was bloody good until the final quarter. As was Mounga.

    The blame for you Foster haters needs to be apportioned to the rest of the coaching staff who have had plenty of time to address the obvious issues. This was a collective display of incompetence.

    The buck stops at the head coach. And with Ryan and Schmidt we have had some games which forwards really muscled up and attack was good versus decent opposition. Prior to them, none. So yes Ryan and Schmidt are part of the selectors and coaching team, but there has been improvement with them on board. Foster had the final say, and the midfield bomb/millions of sorry kicks/play in your own 22 has been the default under the entire foster tenure. And that leads to our losses

    Why is it that our sycophantic "journalists" wont actually hit the players or coaches up about it....?

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  • DuluthD Offline
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    wrote on last edited by Duluth
    #1585

    Forwards carry metres got updated:

    Scott Barrett 70
    Ardie Savea 67
    Dalton Papali'i 50
    Samisoni Taukei'aho 20
    Nepo Laulala 19
    Sam Whitelock 14
    Ethan de Groot 8
    Brodie Retallick 8
    Luke Jacobson 8
    Codie Taylor 6
    Tupou Vaa'i 4
    Ofa Tu'ungafasi 0
    Fletcher Newell 0

    Apart from Barrett we don't have much ability to bend the line in the tight 5

    Taukei'aho should start but the output of the others is still a concern

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  • antipodeanA Offline
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    replied to Machpants on last edited by
    #1586

    @Machpants said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

    @antipodean said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

    Quick report from your local correspondent here in fucking hot Paris:

    Backroom full of donkeys. Vaai, predictability, the worst of them. Tight five carried them. In as much as you can call that display "carried".

    De Groot will want to forget that game in a hurry. ALB was MIA after that beautiful pop pass to Rieko.
    Will Jordan is obviously a very dimwitted slow learner. Jump to contest you fuckwomble.

    Beaudy was bloody good until the final quarter. As was Mounga.

    The blame for you Foster haters needs to be apportioned to the rest of the coaching staff who have had plenty of time to address the obvious issues. This was a collective display of incompetence.

    The buck stops at the head coach. And with Ryan and Schmidt we have had some games which forwards really muscled up and attack was good versus decent opposition. Prior to them, none. So yes Ryan and Schmidt are part of the selectors and coaching team, but there has been improvement with them on board. Foster had the final say, and the midfield bomb/millions of sorry kicks/play in your own 22 has been the default under the entire foster tenure. And that leads to our losses

    Ahh yes, the predictable lament that 'when we're good it's the assistants, when we're bad it's the head coach'. Those with a few more functioning synapses might start to look at the quality of player available and reflect on that body of evidence.

    IMO you have to be a dimwit to believe that the problem is just the head coach.

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  • canefanC Offline
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    @Stag said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

    What a list Fozzy has

    First home loss to Ireland
    First series loss to Ireland
    First loss to Argentina
    First home loss to Argentina
    Largest ever defeat
    First ever pool loss at a World Cup

    Just to name a few…

    The only way he makes it back to the RWC is as a spectator

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    @Stag said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

    What a list Fozzy has

    First home loss to Ireland
    First series loss to Ireland
    First loss to Argentina
    First home loss to Argentina
    Largest ever defeat
    First ever pool loss at a World Cup

    Just to name a few…

    From the dedicated thread

    First to lose to Ireland in NZ.
    First to lose a series to Ireland.
    First 3 test series loss in professional era.
    Worst halftime deficit ever.
    First to lose to Argentina, and at home
    Highest score against us
    Biggest losing margin x2
    Lowest world ranking
    Worst win rate in Pro era
    First ever consecutive 14 point+ losses
    First loss in RWC pool play
    Worst ever RWC loss
    Biggest margin of defeats and highest scores conceded against Argentina, Ireland, Australia, South Africa, and France
    Only ever time lost 3 consecutive home tests

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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    replied to Duluth on last edited by
    #1589

    @Duluth the fact that ST is 4th with only 20m says it all really

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  • DuluthD Offline
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    @taniwharugby said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

    @Duluth the fact that ST is 4th with only 20m says it all really

    Or that Nepo was one of the best carriers in the tight forwards. Hardly his strength

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  • canefanC Offline
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    replied to Machpants on last edited by
    #1591

    @Machpants said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

    @Stag said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

    What a list Fozzy has

    First home loss to Ireland
    First series loss to Ireland
    First loss to Argentina
    First home loss to Argentina
    Largest ever defeat
    First ever pool loss at a World Cup

    Just to name a few…

    From the dedicated thread

    First to lose to Ireland in NZ.
    First to lose a series to Ireland.
    First 3 test series loss in professional era.
    Worst halftime deficit ever.
    First to lose to Argentina, and at home
    Highest score against us
    Biggest losing margin x2
    Lowest world ranking
    Worst win rate in Pro era
    First ever consecutive 14 point+ losses
    First loss in RWC pool play
    Worst ever RWC loss
    Biggest margin of defeats and highest scores conceded against Argentina, Ireland, Australia, South Africa, and France
    Only ever time lost 3 consecutive home tests

    I can't like that

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