RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks
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Hearing rumours that Foley, the TMO (or maybe AR can’t remember) from the final has been stood down from 6N duties
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@Catogrande and that is an interesting point.
For players it is OK to be critical of them, point out they missed 5 tackles, conceded 4 turnovers and dropped the ball 3 times, but not ok to point out some glaring errors from a ref (obviously this is a bit different and one assumes/hopes the ref managers review these and give feedback and areas to improve)
In addition, players get dropped due to poor play, refs rarely are held to account in the same way.
As I keep saying, the refs job is made more difficult with the rules and how they can be interpreted differently from ref to ref, rather than simple and then the ref either calls it or he doesn't.
That said, I am not a fan of getting stuck into the ref, but is almost hypocritical to critique players and not refs.
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@taniwharugby said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
That said, I am not a fan of getting stuck into the ref, but is almost hypocritical to critique players and not refs.
thing is, if one ref struggles that's their problem. If you struggle to have refs capable of refereeing a game without controversy, that's more on the system and laws than the refs. They get an un-refereeable game.
None of that excuses the TMO cockups or inconsistency of course
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@Bovidae said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
The problem is that the TMOs are usually sub-standard refs to begin with, and there are plenty of recent examples of that. Does Foley ref regularly in the Premiership?
At a rugby club lunch today and sat with a professional ref, come background official and that was his exact point. The guys in the bunker and often as TMOs are not selected as refs so much as they’re not much cop.
He also had an interesting insight into referee selection at the top level. Amazingly it seems that if Wayne Barnes had have pulled a hamstring the night before the final, we’d have had Dickson reffing the game 😳
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@Catogrande said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
He also had an interesting insight into referee selection at the top level. Amazingly it seems that if Wayne Barnes had have pulled a hamstring the night before the final, we’d have had Dickson reffing the game 😳
Unfortunately, the upshot of having a bunch of shit pedants as English refs, is that the only way to guarantee that there won't be one appointed to any particular match, is to watch England play. Which is as sure a way to guarantee watching a shit match, as watching an English ref ruin one.
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@Snowy said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
@Catogrande said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
He also had an interesting insight into referee selection at the top level. Amazingly it seems that if Wayne Barnes had have pulled a hamstring the night before the final, we’d have had Dickson reffing the game 😳
Unfortunately, the upshot of having a bunch of shit pedants as English refs, is that the only way to guarantee that there won't be one appointed to any particular match, is to watch England play. Which is as sure a way to guarantee watching a shit match, as watching an English ref ruin one.
The irony is Luke Pierce is an excellent English ref who seems out of favour.
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@KiwiMurph said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
@Snowy said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
@Catogrande said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
He also had an interesting insight into referee selection at the top level. Amazingly it seems that if Wayne Barnes had have pulled a hamstring the night before the final, we’d have had Dickson reffing the game 😳
Unfortunately, the upshot of having a bunch of shit pedants as English refs, is that the only way to guarantee that there won't be one appointed to any particular match, is to watch England play. Which is as sure a way to guarantee watching a shit match, as watching an English ref ruin one.
The irony is Luke Pierce is an excellent English ref who seems out of favour.
This also came up in the discussion at the club lunch. Most officials were gobsmacked at how underused Pierce was.
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@Catogrande said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
@KiwiMurph said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
@Snowy said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
@Catogrande said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
He also had an interesting insight into referee selection at the top level. Amazingly it seems that if Wayne Barnes had have pulled a hamstring the night before the final, we’d have had Dickson reffing the game 😳
Unfortunately, the upshot of having a bunch of shit pedants as English refs, is that the only way to guarantee that there won't be one appointed to any particular match, is to watch England play. Which is as sure a way to guarantee watching a shit match, as watching an English ref ruin one.
The irony is Luke Pierce is an excellent English ref who seems out of favour.
This also came up in the discussion at the club lunch. Most officials were gobsmacked at how underused Pierce was.
Georgian too
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Not totally about the final, but good to see, I hope they catch a lot of the tossers
NZ police open investigation into death threats against World Rugby referees
World Rugby has revealed Wayne Barnes received more abuse than any other team or player.
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And they say kiwis are one eyed about their rugby ….
What sort of a bubble do you live in to think this what EVERYBODY wanted???
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@MajorRage said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
And they say kiwis are one eyed about their rugby ….
What sort of a bubble do you live in to think this what EVERYBODY wanted???
To be fair the worst supporters of any country are guilty of this kind of wank speak.
It is a bit surprising it is a player saying it though.
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