TV Purchase help
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@NTA "LED" TV's are LCD screens, they just have an LED backlight rather than the old compact-fluorescent light sources.
Calling them LED TVs was a smart piece of marketing from Samsung.
OLED TV's have a miniaturised group of Organic LEDs for each pixel - no LCD filter required.
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@mariner4life said in TV Purchase help:
New house, so i am getting data points everywhere. Costs a bit more, but so useful.
Get 4 ports anywhere you have AudioVisual gear: TV, Game Console, Sky/Fox, Sound system. Also the home office if you're getting one, but don't worry much about the other rooms as most the kids devices will be Wifi.
Pull that all back to a patch panel somewhere convenient (under the stairs or back of the pantry) and then spend a bit more on a decent network switch to pull it all together. For your wifi, something that is Power over Ethernet (PoE) can do a good job if the switch supports it.
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@Paekakboyz I sometimes have issues with a temporary loss of volume via the AVR when changing to channels like ESPN. It's an annoyance but that can be rectified by just pushing the input button on the AVR remote.
Maybe the MySky box is improved now as when I set up mine through the AVR I needed to use a co-ax cable to get 5.1 audio and only use HDMI for video.
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@antipodean said in TV Purchase help:
@NTA said in TV Purchase help:
Also the heat factor - mother-in-law has a plasma (now about 10 years old?) and it makes the room a couple of degrees hotter.
My first decent TV I splashed out on a Pioneer plasma (back when Pioneer made the best screens) and it also functioned as a heater in winter.
@antipodean Was that by chance the Kuro?
I purchased a 55" from the last generation of the Pioneer Plasma's made in Japan, the Kuro (which is Japanese for Black) and until this day, even though it is now 10 years old, I haven't seen a TV which such amazing colour replication and deep blacks.
On the other hand, it just didn't handle some things as well as the more modern TV's. And they certainly do put out some heat and suck up the "zappy stuff" (thanks for the technical explination @Hooroo ).
I've heard that on the second hand TV market, they are still one of the few TV's that have held their relative value and are in demand for their colour reproduction and black blacks.
I also have a Samsung 3D LED which I got about 6 and 1/2 years ago and whilst it is bright and good view, the colour reproduction isn't great and certainly doesn't do blacks very well.
Apparently OLED (organic light-emitting diode) TV's are now the KURO equivalent. Amazing colour reproduction and very dark blacks. But as with all things technological, the OLED is very expensive when compared to LED.
Been doing some research and if I was to buy a TV at the moment, it would be hard to justify an OLED due to cost and would likely go with a very good LED.
Things to consider when buying a new TV:
3D TV's are dead in the home marketplace
Curved TV's are on their way out
4K / UltraHD are a low cost investment to ensure your TV is "future proofed" as much as any tech can be considered future proofed. The purchase price on 4K/UHD TV's has dropped drastically in the past 6 months making them not much more expensive when compared to the equivalent sized 1080P Full HD TV.Yes, there isn't much 4K content available... YET.
But Netflix and others are making more and more of it available.
Streaming such content however can be painful depending on your bandwidth, i.e. on ADSL it really rather sucks. And will eat up significant portions of your data allowance.
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@RoninWC said in TV Purchase help:
@antipodean Was that by chance the Kuro?
I purchased a 55" from the last generation of the Pioneer Plasma's made in Japan, the Kuro (which is Japanese for Black) and until this day, even though it is now 10 years old, I haven't seen a TV which such amazing colour replication and deep blacks.Yes, it was and I agree with your opinion on its capabilities, particularly the blacks. I had the smaller 50"
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@antipodean
Actually I stand corrected, as mine was also the 50". It's my Samsung LED 3D TV that is 55".The Kuro's only came in 42, 50 and 60 inches.
Always wished I had enough for the 60" but it was just way too expensive in the day, near on $10K.
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@RoninWC said in TV Purchase help:
Streaming such content however can be painful depending on your bandwidth, i.e. on ADSL it really rather sucks. And will eat up significant portions of your data allowance.
Data allowance? ADSL?
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@Crucial said in TV Purchase help:
@RoninWC said in TV Purchase help:
Streaming such content however can be painful depending on your bandwidth, i.e. on ADSL it really rather sucks. And will eat up significant portions of your data allowance.
Data allowance? ADSL?
What backwater does this stuff exist in?It is known as "Malcolm Turnbull's Australia"
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@NTA said in TV Purchase help:
@Crucial said in TV Purchase help:
@RoninWC said in TV Purchase help:
Streaming such content however can be painful depending on your bandwidth, i.e. on ADSL it really rather sucks. And will eat up significant portions of your data allowance.
Data allowance? ADSL?
What backwater does this stuff exist in?It is known as "Malcolm Turnbull's Australia"
Capping is more to do with the ISPs though. Australia is quite out of steps with the ISP plans compared to other countries.
It can be to do with network investment though (or the Telstra backhaul charging) if they are using caps as a blunt tool to restrict peak bandwidth use. -
Yes, and its because of the old network we had - a measure to discourage excess.
Now, the old network is expected to run the new network, and its not doing a great job. I have a run of copper ~820m to my house from the nearest pillar, as I think I've described elsewhere. Max out around 17mbps, and others have it worse than they did with ADSL2+
I'm not sure the "plus" is warranted
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As NTA has said, the ICT infrastructure available in Aus from an ISP perspective is really atrocious. Previously I struggled using ADSL2+ whilst living in Wahroonga and my ISP was TPG. The nearest exchange was Hornsby and I was a couple of km's from the exchange. I was never able to exceed 10 Mb/s in download and generally it was around the high 7 Mb/s.
Once it was 4-5 pm when the all the kids got home from school, the internet became virtually useless for streaming any content and files and was almost useless for gaming (yes, I'm a nerdy FPS gamer).
The only saving grace was that with TPG I had an "unlimited" service and therefore wasn't capped in terms of download/upload. So whenever I could, I would just schedule downloads for the off peak times.
I've now moved into a brand new apartment building in North Sydney which has NBN Fibre to the Premises (FTTP) with Telstra (gasp!) and I'm now in virtual ICT heaven with speeds achieving almost 100 Mb/s downloads and 20 Mb/s upload but I'm now capped at 1000 GB per month so I have to be careful streaming even Full HD content.
Because I have Foxtel through Telstra, it is unmetered and so is Netflix thru the Telstra TV. The only Metered content service I have is Stan (which was a 3 month free trail with the Telstra TV) so I am just using that to watch the full series of Sherlock.
Just my $0.02 worth on the topic of Aussie internet which I think on the whole is generally bloody aweful and I'm grateful I do not live in a rural/remote area which is being almost compeletely ignored by the Government and ISPs.
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@RoninWC said in TV Purchase help:
Just my $0.02 worth on the topic of Aussie internet which I think on the whole is generally bloody aweful and I'm grateful I do not live in a rural/remote area which is being almost compeletely ignored by the Government and ISPs.
Which is why they're flipping the bird and starting their own:
Wi-Fi from the top of a grain silo: Rural Australians trying to end data drought
Small telcos in regional Australia are finding a way around the data drought, by setting up fixed wireless networks that broadcast a signal to paying customers in town from high elevation points like grain silos, bucket elevators and buildings.
Was at a mate's place at Molong over the weekend, and he has fixed wifi. Speed is not half bad but I reckon it'd be shit in a storm.
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@dK said in TV Purchase help:
@RoninWC I've registered with My Republic, so when NBN finally arrives on the Northern Beaches, scheduled for March, I will move from Optus ADSL Unlimited at $95pm to Myrepublic Max available speed, Unlimited for $69pm
The question is; will they invest to actually provide you a decent service? @RoninWC 's experience with TPG is typical of smaller ISPs. Their only selling point was cheaper rates or unlimited data, which they could only provide by not investing in their infrastructure. TPG knew they could offer unlimited data because the throughput was so crap you couldn't make a dent anyway.
The same is now true of residences connected to the NBN. People getting poorer service than they expected, or sometimes even worse than what they had are complaining about the NBN. It's not the NBN, it's their ISP.
The funny part is the capital cities are awash with fibre. The overcapacity before they started building the NBN was huge. Then right next door you could be relying on decades-old copper with an exchange Telstra weren't going to invest in because Labor was replacing every kilometre with glass. When the NBN finally got around to building the network, they targeted Labor strongholds (as you do when you're a political party). Just as that certainty was available to the marketplace, Labor lost and the Liberals tried their best to fuck it completely.
My parents live in an area with shit ADSL (not ADLS2) and their suburb is completely surrounded by NBN, but they aren't even scheduled. It's a black hole.
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Fucken bump!
Right time for a new telly. 4k circa 49 inch around the £500 to £600 ($1k to 1.2 I think) price range. Needs to be good for the rugga.
Thinking of this:
https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/tv-and-home-entertainment/televisions/televisions/sony-bravia-kd49x7052pbu-49-smart-4k-ultra-hd-hdr-led-tv-10205085-pdt.htmlSmart isn't necessary if it can be got cheaper without, but doesn't seem to be an option these days.
Go!
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both our TV's a Samsung and are great
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@Bones said in TV Purchase help:
Fucken bump!
Right time for a new telly. 4k circa 49 inch around the £500 to £600 ($1k to 1.2 I think) price range. Needs to be good for the rugga.
Thinking of this:
https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/tv-and-home-entertainment/televisions/televisions/sony-bravia-kd49x7052pbu-49-smart-4k-ultra-hd-hdr-led-tv-10205085-pdt.htmlSmart isn't necessary if it can be got cheaper without, but doesn't seem to be an option these days.
Go!
Read up as much as you want, ask TSF, look at prices, do it all.
Then go to a store and completely change your mind when you see the screens. Research is futile, as all screens have differences in the way they present. Go to a John Lewis and ask them to put on the TV / Sports and take it off the sample screens. Changes everything.
