All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson
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Nelson is a test match venue. jesus christ. what a disgrace
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Not a strong endorsement of Argentina...
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I would think something like this-
15 Jordie Barrett
14 milner skuddar
13 Jack goodhue
12 ngani laumape
11 waisake Naholo
10 richie mounga
9 tj perenara
8 Kieran Reid
7 ardie savea
6 shannon frizell
5 sam whitelock
4 scott Barrett
3 owen Franks
2 nathan Harris
1 joe MoodyReplacements-
Karl tuuinukuafe
Ofa Tu’ungafasi
Cody Taylor
Brodie retallick
Luke whitelock
Te taraua tahuriorangi
Damian McKenzie
Anton Lienert-Brown -
@mariner4life said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
Nelson is a test match venue. jesus christ. what a disgrace
It's only a bunch of dagos. Fuck them. They should be thankful it's not Levin or Gore
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@allblacksfan72 would be interesting given of that line up Ardie, Nehe, Frizzel, TTT and TJ all playing M10 cup this weekend...whereas Mounga not, and he hasnt played since the final.
Would think ALB in line to start too, and isnt SBW due back?
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@allblacksfan72 Sam Whitelock has played a lot of minutes this year and I think they will play him off the bench as a result. They should have selected an extra lock in the squad imo so that we could have given both our rock star locks some time off during the RC.
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Personally I'd pick only one of Mo'unga and TTT in the XXIII.
I'd lean towards starting Richie outside Smith.
Haven't given a lot of thought outside of that.
Maybe start Savea to give Cane a rest and have Squire cover the loosies from the bench. Don't see a need for an out and out 7 on the bench.
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@bones assuming Cane is ok, for me, he falls in same category as Crotty given he has had numerous head knocks..granted some knocks he has passed the HIA, but he also chose not to come back on on 2 occasions IIRC.
For me, he shouldnt play next week.
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@taniwharugby yeah definitely. That's why I wouldn't want to rest Squire also. If only they'd selected Gibson we could have rested the whole loose trio and just played him.
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@bones said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
@akan004 hasn't Retallick had a fair bit of time off already? He's in fantastic form, will be world player of the year easy at this rate. Don't rest him!
This is the perfect game to rest Whitelock. Start Barrett and have Hemopo on the bench.
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
Nelson is a test match venue. jesus christ. what a disgrace
Yeah I agree. Where next; Wanganui, Gisborne, or maybe Timaru??
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@shark said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
Actually, why shouldn't we do a Cricket Australia and relegate our neighbours to second tier venues for 30 years or so? We should in all seriousness send a message to the ARU and host the Wallabies next year in Invercargill.
Christchurch might be easier to get to for fans.
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
Nelson is a test match venue. jesus christ. what a disgrace
GFY.
Invented rugby in New Zealand - you'd be watching soccer or handball (probably maypole dancing if it had been left to the Waikato) if it weren't for the farsighted Nelsonians.
Been a test venue since the RWC in 2011.
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@akan004 said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
@allblacksfan72 Sam Whitelock has played a lot of minutes this year and I think they will play him off the bench as a result. They should have selected an extra lock in the squad imo so that we could have given both our rock star locks some time off during the RC.
I'd pick Fifita. He ticks all the boxes and then some with his raw athleticism....but then there's the glaring fact he won't get picked at lock cos he said he doesn't want to be a lock.
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@shark said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
Nelson is a test match venue. jesus christ. what a disgrace
Yeah I agree. Where next; Wanganui, Gisborne, or maybe Timaru??
'Timaru, is it the money or the bag?'
RIP Selwyn Toogood.
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@bones said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
@shark said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
Actually, why shouldn't we do a Cricket Australia and relegate our neighbours to second tier venues for 30 years or so? We should in all seriousness send a message to the ARU and host the Wallabies next year in Invercargill.
Christchurch might be easier to get to for fans.
Quite harsh making them play at our 'stadium'
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
Nelson is a test match venue. jesus christ. what a disgrace
Well not much different to Rota Vegas or Hamilton hey I'll even throw Palmerston North in the mix.
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@shark said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
Actually, why shouldn't we do a Cricket Australia and relegate our neighbours to second tier venues for 30 years or so? We should in all seriousness send a message to the ARU and host the Wallabies next year in Invercargill.
We could even accidentally send that message by playing them in Christchurch.
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@bones said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
@shark said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
Actually, why shouldn't we do a Cricket Australia and relegate our neighbours to second tier venues for 30 years or so? We should in all seriousness send a message to the ARU and host the Wallabies next year in Invercargill.
Christchurch might be easier to get to for fans.
Ah fuck, beaten. I was so proud, too.
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@akan004 said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
@bones True but I want them both to be fresh when we play Ireland and England and don't want them to get injured playing a team we should beat fairly easily. Can't lose to both those fluffybunnies.
It's only England.
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@bones said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
@akan004 said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
@bones True but I want them both to be fresh when we play Ireland and England and don't want them to get injured playing a team we should beat fairly easily. Can't lose to both those fluffybunnies.
It's only England.
Never thought I would say this but I probably hate losing to the Irish more than to the English now. The Irish fans have been incredibly cocky since their one victory in a hundred years.
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
Nelson is a test match venue. jesus christ. what a disgrace
Visited Nelson for the first time earlier this year.
Their stadium looks to be a nice little provincial stadium, but bloody hell I can’t believe they’ve given them a test. -
I dont know if it will be wholesale changes. I think it will more be minutes played, so maybe sub early. the starting 15 might be pretty solid with bench the big change.
Retallick, Moody, Franks, Read, Squire haven't played a lot of minutes in super rugby and with Crotty and Rieko back i think they could be only major changes.
everyone is also saying Richie to start but remember that Mackenzie is next in line. Think of Sopoaga it took him a looong time to get ob field, even if Mounga is an upgrade.
Only thought is they will want to rest some people but may do that when travel to Argie/SA as they like to send some to SA before tour party arrive. I also think they will want to now win Rugby Championship before they head over there.
PossiblyJ Barrett or Mackenzie a start
Naholo
ALB (coaches did say Goodhue had played a lot of minutes)
Crotty
Iaone
Barrett
Perenara
Read
Cane
Squire
Barrett
Rettalick
Tuungafasi
Taylor
MoodyKarl T
Perry
Harris
Hemopo
Whitelock
TTT
Barrett or Mackenize
Laumape
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@wreck-diver said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
Nelson is a test match venue. jesus christ. what a disgrace
Well not much different to Rota Vegas or Hamilton hey I'll even throw Palmerston North in the mix.
What?!!!
Those are the sort of places Donald Trump had in mind when he talked about shitholes!
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@gunner said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
Nelson is a test match venue. jesus christ. what a disgrace
Visited Nelson for the first time earlier this year.
Their stadium looks to be a nice little provincial stadium, but bloody hell I can’t believe they’ve given them a test.On the principle that tests should be hosted by First Division Unions, the options are pretty much Auckland, Wellington, Christchurch, Nelson and New Plymouth.
New Plymouth's stadium has been condemned so Nelson it is!
Hooray!!!
GFY as well!
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@bovidae said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
Nelson is the Coromandel of the south - full of alternative artsy types and hippies.
Give Thames a test!!
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@gunner said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
Nelson is a test match venue. jesus christ. what a disgrace
Visited Nelson for the first time earlier this year.
Their stadium looks to be a nice little provincial stadium, but bloody hell I can’t believe they’ve given them a test.Neither could Nelsonians!!
But hey, them's the breaks
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Stab at the back line from 9 to 15, 21 to 23
Aaron, Richie, Reiko, Ryan, Anton, Nehe, Ben
TTT, Damien, Ngani
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@mn5 said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
@akan004 said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
@allblacksfan72 Sam Whitelock has played a lot of minutes this year and I think they will play him off the bench as a result. They should have selected an extra lock in the squad imo so that we could have given both our rock star locks some time off during the RC.
I'd pick Fifita. He ticks all the boxes and then some with his raw athleticism....but then there's the glaring fact he won't get picked at lock cos he said he doesn't want to be a lock.
Fifita is not in the squad.
Taylor needs a rest, as do Sam Whitelock and Aaron Smith. -
@chris-b said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
@wreck-diver said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
Nelson is a test match venue. jesus christ. what a disgrace
Well not much different to Rota Vegas or Hamilton hey I'll even throw Palmerston North in the mix.
What?!!!
Those are the sort of places Donald Trump had in mind when he talked about shitholes!
My point exactly shit holes for test matches :smiling_face_with_open_mouth_smiling_eyes:
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@bovidae said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
Nelson is the Coromandel of the south - full of alternative artsy types and hippies.
Tofu eating piston wristed gibbons