All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson
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All Blacks loosehead prop Joe Moody will miss the remainder of the Rugby Championship due to a broken thumb. Chiefs prop Angus Ta'avao has been called up as his replacement.
Well done!
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@bovidae great story for him and Tu'unukuafi
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If there was an award for most improved player Ta'avao would be it. Cast off from the Blues (not necessarily a bad thing), and then had a mixed time at the Tahs, before turning up for preseason with the Chiefs with no contract.
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
Give Thames a test!!
Fish 'n' chips from the wharf at HT and we have a goer.
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I'm so proud of this. Exactly what I intended with a Test Match thread....
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@hooroo said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
I'm so proud of this. Exactly what I intended with a Test Match thread....
The world is full of fuckwits. What can you do!
I try to fight them....
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@chris-b Hey it ticks all the boxes CBD location (fuck you Auckland/Sydney/ Paris/London....) means walking distance to - well the whole fucking city TBH but I mean the bar district is what 5 minutes walk away - and if you don't like the first bar, well there's always the other two.
What other test venue allows you to go whitebaiting at the back of the stands?
Plus Trailways - am I right - or am I right?
Seriously I think it's great and if I was going to be in the country I would definitely have tried to get a couple of tickets. Weekend in Nelson is always acceptable. Instead of which I'll be trying to find a bar in Hanoi with the footy on.
Enjoy
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@dogmeat You can run down to Trailways at halftime - and take the minibus to the Brightwater Hotel at fulltime if you don't like the large selection of Central City bars.
It will be great.
Nelson - International venue for rugby and cricket!
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@chris-b said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
@dogmeat You can run down to Trailways at halftime - and take the minibus to the Brightwater Hotel at fulltime if you don't like the large selection of Central City bars.
It will be great.
Nelson - International venue for rugby and cricket!
I watched the 2nd Lions test last year at the Brightwater Motor Inn. The locals were . . . interesting.
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This is very good news actually that NZ are forced to get some starts in Tuinukiafe, and the injury to Moody is as minor as a thumb fracture.
I say this believing, as far as I know, that Moody is the best current LHP in test rugby.
KT needs some serious (starting) minutes before RWC.
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having guys like Ta'avao and Tu'unukuafi in our squad could be looked at in 2 ways:
1 - Our much vaunted depth isnt what it is thought of given ABs call in 2 guys who had no contracts at end of last year
2 - Meh, just grab those 2 fellas, they look like props, she'll be right, this is NZ, everyone can play for the ABs. -
@taniwharugby or you factor in the multiple injured players and that it's not without precedent that props are better in their mid-late 20s than their early 20s.
Plus factor in the mistakes made with handing out Super Rugby contracts (as a Blues fan i'm all too aware of this).
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@smudge said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
@chris-b said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
@dogmeat You can run down to Trailways at halftime - and take the minibus to the Brightwater Hotel at fulltime if you don't like the large selection of Central City bars.
It will be great.
Nelson - International venue for rugby and cricket!
I watched the 2nd Lions test last year at the Brightwater Motor Inn. The locals were . . . interesting.
Hey - that could have been me!
No - on second thoughts, I was still banned from the Brightwater at that stage!
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@rapido said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
This is very good news actually that NZ are forced to get some starts in Tuinukiafe, and the injury to Moody is as minor as a thumb fracture.
I wouldn't be surprised if they start Perry and bring big Karl off the bench.
Have to throw the locals a bone.
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
having guys like Ta'avao and Tu'unukuafi in our squad could be looked at in 2 ways:
1 - Our much vaunted depth isnt what it is thought of given ABs call in 2 guys who had no contracts at end of last year
2 - Meh, just grab those 2 fellas, they look like props, she'll be right, this is NZ, everyone can play for the ABs.or 3 - Our depth goes so far, even these guys didn't have contracts at the end of last year.
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@bovidae said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
I wouldn't be surprised if they start Perry and bring big Karl off the bench.
Have to throw the locals a bone.ugh
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@rapido I just think that Hansen and co might believe that Tu'inukuafe is the better impact sub of the two.
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in here will do...
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hahaha holy shit.
And they spelled Peter Sloane wrong
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is "mastery of "transition" opportunities" just another way of saying "journey"?
So a guy reputedly responsible for our attacking play is taking on the English defensive role?
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@taniwharugby I can see why Harris no longer writes for The Australian. Now if they could just get rid of Wayne Smith.
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Anyway, we all know Mitchell pinched his tactics from the 03 Blues (but forgot the part about forward dominance).
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
@98blueandgold be surprised if we see Crotty again this series, if at all this season.
Am pretty sure I heard Shag say that Crotty will be available for selection next weekend. Would rather see him take the rest of the year off though but they do have the best medical advice available I suppose.
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@akan004 yeah I know, same applies to Cane, and I expect with the head knocks it is largely bad luck (poor technique the odd time) so if they are right then they are right...although they are still learning when it comes to the effects of concussion arent they.
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@nepia said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
Anyway, we all know Mitchell pinched his tactics from the 03 Blues (but forgot the part about forward dominance).
Yeah he pinched the counter attack off the Blues and used their back 3 of Mils , Joe and Howlett , they were doing it through the 03 super rugby season , where ironically Henry was an assistant , Mitchell wasnt doing it the year before ,
Chicken egg situation there
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@bovidae said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
@rapido I just think that Hansen and co might believe that Tu'inukuafe is the better impact sub of the two.
Sure, but there is the possibility of having big trouble at scrum time if Perry has to face Juan Figallo who was outstanding vs Mtwawarira in the last test.
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
hahaha holy shit.
And they spelled Peter Sloane wrong
Hahaha, you got there before me, just saw it now ... although shouldn't it (really) be that they spelled Henry wrong.
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Couple of observations:
Assuming they rest Crotty and Cane (which I hope they do)..
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Who is back up for Savea? That might argue for Frizzell to cover 6 and 7.
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If Mo'unga gets a start it wouldn't make sense to have Laumape starting -- better ALB. Goodhue to get rest in second and ALB to 13.
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@pakman said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
Couple of observations:
Assuming they rest Crotty and Cane (which I hope they do)..
- Who is back up for Savea? That might argue for Frizzell to cover 6 and 7.
Don't think Frizell would have ever played 7. Tasman have used him at lock and 6.
Not sure if Luke Whitelock has played 7, but he'd be a better candidate I think - a bit more mobile.
That they haven't pulled another openside into the squad probably points that Cane is going to be good to go.
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@rapido said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
This is very good news actually that NZ are forced to get some starts in Tuinukiafe, and the injury to Moody is as minor as a thumb fracture.
I say this believing, as far as I know, that Moody is the best current LHP in test rugby.
KT needs some serious (starting) minutes before RWC.
Stay on topic.
Now about that whitebaiting.
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@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
@nepia said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
Anyway, we all know Mitchell pinched his tactics from the 03 Blues (but forgot the part about forward dominance).
Yeah he pinched the counter attack off the Blues and used their back 3 of Mils , Joe and Howlett , they were doing it through the 03 super rugby season , where ironically Henry was an assistant , Mitchell wasnt doing it the year before ,
Chicken egg situation there
But Mils was playing centre at the Blues and Rok was rotated on the wing with Gear. Howlett played fullback for most of that Blues season. And lets not forget the most damaging player on that Blues back 3 that year did not make the ABs.....
So Mitchell did vary it quite a bit.
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Tbh I think they should move on from Crotty. The guy seems to barely ever complete a whole game, let alone a season. Yes, he's great when fit, but he just breaks the entire farking time.
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@rapido said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
This is very good news actually that NZ are forced to get some starts in Tuinukiafe, and the injury to Moody is as minor as a thumb fracture.
I say this believing, as far as I know, that Moody is the best current LHP in test rugby.
KT needs some serious (starting) minutes before RWC.
Yeah - it seems he's slipped ahead of Tim Perry in the pecking order, so I don't see why he wouldn't start.
Hopefully Kane Hames will be back in the mix next year and we'll have four looseheads with test experience.
Getting Nepo Laulala back on the tighthead side should give us a good hand of propping options with Karl and Ofa apparently ambidextrous (or should that be ambicaputrous)?
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@act-crusader said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
@nepia said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
Anyway, we all know Mitchell pinched his tactics from the 03 Blues (but forgot the part about forward dominance).
Yeah he pinched the counter attack off the Blues and used their back 3 of Mils , Joe and Howlett , they were doing it through the 03 super rugby season , where ironically Henry was an assistant , Mitchell wasnt doing it the year before ,
Chicken egg situation there
But Mils was playing centre at the Blues and Rok was rotated on the wing with Gear. Howlett played fullback for most of that Blues season. And lets not forget the most damaging player on that Blues back 3 that year did not make the ABs.....
So Mitchell did vary it quite a bit.
Reaching ... and we all know by Mitchell you mean Deans. 😏
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@act-crusader said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
@nepia said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
Anyway, we all know Mitchell pinched his tactics from the 03 Blues (but forgot the part about forward dominance).
Yeah he pinched the counter attack off the Blues and used their back 3 of Mils , Joe and Howlett , they were doing it through the 03 super rugby season , where ironically Henry was an assistant , Mitchell wasnt doing it the year before ,
Chicken egg situation there
But Mils was playing centre at the Blues and Rok was rotated on the wing with Gear. Howlett played fullback for most of that Blues season. And lets not forget the most damaging player on that Blues back 3 that year did not make the ABs.....
So Mitchell did vary it quite a bit.
I thought they were rotated a fair bit ,can remember Rico Gear playing 13 as well when mils played FB , But it was a long time ago ,
And they did try to get Rupeni
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@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
@act-crusader said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
@nepia said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
Anyway, we all know Mitchell pinched his tactics from the 03 Blues (but forgot the part about forward dominance).
Yeah he pinched the counter attack off the Blues and used their back 3 of Mils , Joe and Howlett , they were doing it through the 03 super rugby season , where ironically Henry was an assistant , Mitchell wasnt doing it the year before ,
Chicken egg situation there
But Mils was playing centre at the Blues and Rok was rotated on the wing with Gear. Howlett played fullback for most of that Blues season. And lets not forget the most damaging player on that Blues back 3 that year did not make the ABs.....
So Mitchell did vary it quite a bit.
I thought they were rotated a fair bit ,can remember Rico Gear playing 13 as well when mils played FB , But it was a long time ago ,
And they did try to get Rupeni
Old mate Rupeni coulda been the best AB wing ever. Sigh.
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@mn5 said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
@act-crusader said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
@nepia said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
Anyway, we all know Mitchell pinched his tactics from the 03 Blues (but forgot the part about forward dominance).
Yeah he pinched the counter attack off the Blues and used their back 3 of Mils , Joe and Howlett , they were doing it through the 03 super rugby season , where ironically Henry was an assistant , Mitchell wasnt doing it the year before ,
Chicken egg situation there
But Mils was playing centre at the Blues and Rok was rotated on the wing with Gear. Howlett played fullback for most of that Blues season. And lets not forget the most damaging player on that Blues back 3 that year did not make the ABs.....
So Mitchell did vary it quite a bit.
I thought they were rotated a fair bit ,can remember Rico Gear playing 13 as well when mils played FB , But it was a long time ago ,
And they did try to get Rupeni
Old mate Rupeni coulda been the best AB wing ever. Sigh.
When we couldnt get him , we settled for Joe Rok instead ,
not a bad consolation , he went ok
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Rupeni the greatest All Black that never was. Right up there with Josh Blackie
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@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
@mn5 said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
@act-crusader said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
@nepia said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
Anyway, we all know Mitchell pinched his tactics from the 03 Blues (but forgot the part about forward dominance).
Yeah he pinched the counter attack off the Blues and used their back 3 of Mils , Joe and Howlett , they were doing it through the 03 super rugby season , where ironically Henry was an assistant , Mitchell wasnt doing it the year before ,
Chicken egg situation there
But Mils was playing centre at the Blues and Rok was rotated on the wing with Gear. Howlett played fullback for most of that Blues season. And lets not forget the most damaging player on that Blues back 3 that year did not make the ABs.....
So Mitchell did vary it quite a bit.
I thought they were rotated a fair bit ,can remember Rico Gear playing 13 as well when mils played FB , But it was a long time ago ,
And they did try to get Rupeni
Old mate Rupeni coulda been the best AB wing ever. Sigh.
When we couldnt get him , we settled for Joe Rok instead ,
not a bad consolation , he went ok
True. He took heaps longer than Rupeni to get fat and ineffective
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@act-crusader said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
Rupeni the greatest All Black that never was. Right up there with Josh Blackie
Loved Josh Blackie, great player!
Imagine how good Rupeni could have been if he had a McCaw like ticker, or even half a McCaw like ticker.
