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    Waratahs vs Crusaders

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    • Duluth
      Duluth last edited by Duluth

      Israel Folau, Cam Clark, Adam Ashley-Cooper, Kurtley Beale, Alex Newsome, Bernard Foley, Nick Phipps, Jack Dempsey, Michael Hooper (c), Ned Hanigan, Rob Simmons, Jed Holloway, Sekope Kepu, Damien Fitzpatrick, Harry Johnson-Holmes

      Reserves: Andrew Tuala, Rory O’Connor, Chris Talakai, Lachlan Swinton, Michael Wells, Jake Gordon, Mack Mason, Karmichael Hunt

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      • NTA
        NTA last edited by

        Predictions:

        1. Crusaders by 28

        2. SCG to be bullshit like last time

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        • antipodean
          antipodean last edited by

          Hunt not starting at 12 means the backline will be as good as it was against the Brumbies. Not sure this would be worth the six hour round trip to watch.

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          • Stargazer
            Stargazer last edited by Stargazer

            Crusaders

            1 George Bower
            2 Codie Taylor
            3 Owen Franks
            4 Quinten Strange
            5 Sam Whitelock (c)
            6 Jordan Taufua
            7 Matt Todd (vc)
            8 Whetukamokamo Douglas
            9 Bryn Hall
            10 Brett Cameron
            11 George Bridge
            12 Ryan Crotty (vc)
            13 Jack Goodhue
            14 Braydon Ennor
            15 David Havili

            Reserves:
            16 Andrew Makalio
            17 Harry Allan
            18 Michael Alaalatoa
            19 Luke Romano
            20 Tom Sanders
            21 Ereatara Enari
            22 Mitch Hunt
            23 Will Jordan

            There are just two changes to the Crusaders side that was named to play the Highlanders last weekend, before that match was cancelled in Dunedin. Scott Barrett has been rested this week, Quinten Strange will start, and Luke Romano has been named on the bench. The only other change sees Brett Cameron come in at first five-eighth in place of Richie Mo'unga. Mitch Hunt has recovered from his concussion to provide cover for Cameron in the reserves.
            
            This will be Owen Franks' 150th game for the Crusaders (149th Investec Super Rugby game).
            
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            • Duluth
              Duluth last edited by

              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/111448727/super-rugby-all-blacks-richie-mounga-and-scott-barrett-to-miss-waratahs-clash-in-sydney

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              • Stargazer
                Stargazer last edited by Stargazer

                So they can make exceptions to the ABs rest breaks for Dmac and Retallick, but not for Mo'unga and Scott Barrett. Maybe because they expect the Chiefs not to reach the finals and the Crusaders to go all the way? πŸ€”

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                • Chris
                  Chris @Stargazer last edited by Chris

                  @Stargazer Yeah seems strange one rule for some one rule for others.

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                  • Kirwan
                    Kirwan @Stargazer last edited by

                    @Stargazer I would have expected last week to count as a rest, unless they count the training time as well?

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                    • taniwharugby
                      taniwharugby last edited by

                      Maybe Razor was always planning on resting them this week and decided not to change his plan?

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                      • Stargazer
                        Stargazer @Kirwan last edited by

                        @Kirwan That's exactly the reason given. Because they trained all week, it apparently doesn't count as a rest break, despite not playing the game on Saturday.

                        Richie Mo'unga and Scott Barrett will miss the Crusaders' emotional return to Super Rugby in Sydney on Saturday night. 
                        
                        The pair are not permitted to play in the match at the Sydney Cricket Ground due to All Blacks enforced leave, despite last weekend's fixture against the Highlanders in Dunedin being cancelled in the aftermath of the Christchurch terrorist attack. 
                        
                        Crusaders coach Scott Robertson confirmed the canned fixture did not reset their streak of played games because they trained with the team last week. The agreement with New Zealand Rugby is that the players sit out the week entirely. 
                        
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                        • NTA
                          NTA @taniwharugby last edited by

                          @taniwharugby said in Waratahs vs Crusaders:

                          Maybe Razor was always planning on resting them this week and decided not to change his plan?

                          After all, why take a full strength side to Sydney unless you're worried about for/against?

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                          • Kirwan
                            Kirwan @Stargazer last edited by

                            @Stargazer ok, that makes sense then.

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                            • S
                              Steven Harris last edited by

                              Just been relayed some information regarding the Crusaders winning streak..according to SANZAR even though the Saders v Landers match was abandoned,.therefore the Crusaders winning streak is officially over..a bit unfair if you ask me,after all no game was played even though there points for the draw given out.thoughts..?

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                              • NTA
                                NTA @Steven Harris last edited by

                                @Steven-Harris Well... it is shit in the context of what happened last week.

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                                • S
                                  Steven Harris @NTA last edited by

                                  @NTA perspective fair enough.

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                                  • NTA
                                    NTA @Steven Harris last edited by

                                    @Steven-Harris Yeah not sure that kind of stat is going to matter when the Crusaders romp to yet another title.

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                                    • Nepia
                                      Nepia last edited by

                                      That's just dumb, the game was cancelled, they didn't play out a draw. FFS, fishheads are idiots sometimes.

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                                      • Stargazer
                                        Stargazer last edited by Stargazer

                                        Well, official or not, their winning streak is only over on paper, not in the real world. You can't win, not-win, draw, lose or not-lose if you don't play.

                                        Also, even if they've officially lost their winning streak, they still have a non-losing streak.

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                                        • Chris B.
                                          Chris B. @Nepia last edited by

                                          @Nepia said in Waratahs vs Crusaders:

                                          That's just dumb, the game was cancelled, they didn't play out a draw. FFS, fishheads are idiots sometimes.

                                          Defies logic and frankly, if true, belief.

                                          However, these are the same people that have spent the past half dozen years working assiduously to kill the golden goose that is Super rugby, so it won't surprise me.

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                                          • Machpants
                                            Machpants @Stargazer last edited by Machpants

                                            @Stargazer said in Waratahs vs Crusaders:

                                            Well, official or not, their winning streak is only over on paper, not in the real world. You can't win, not-win, draw, lose or not-lose if you don't play.

                                            Also, even if they've officially lost their winning streak, they still have a non-losing streak.

                                            QFT streak still going, fucking tossers

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                                            • MajorRage
                                              MajorRage @Steven Harris last edited by

                                              @Steven-Harris said in Waratahs vs Crusaders:

                                              Just been relayed some information regarding the Crusaders winning streak..according to SANZAR even though the Saders v Landers match was abandoned,.therefore the Crusaders winning streak is officially over..a bit unfair if you ask me,after all no game was played even though there points for the draw given out.thoughts..?

                                              Who is declaring it officially over?

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                                              • Chris B.
                                                Chris B. last edited by Chris B.

                                                So, in the injury ward we have: Joe Moody, Tim Perry, Manasa Mataele, Oli Jager, Israel Dagg

                                                Rested: Richie Mo'unga, Scott Barrett, Kieran Read

                                                Not selected: Blackadder, Dunshea, Funnell, Harmon, Bateman, Drummond, Faingaanuku, Punavai

                                                We've got a decent squad! πŸ™‚

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                                                • Bones
                                                  Bones @MajorRage last edited by

                                                  @MajorRage said in Waratahs vs Crusaders:

                                                  @Steven-Harris said in Waratahs vs Crusaders:

                                                  Just been relayed some information regarding the Crusaders winning streak..according to SANZAR even though the Saders v Landers match was abandoned,.therefore the Crusaders winning streak is officially over..a bit unfair if you ask me,after all no game was played even though there points for the draw given out.thoughts..?

                                                  Who is declaring it officially over?

                                                  Duh. Mr Relayed!

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                                                  • ACT Crusader
                                                    ACT Crusader @Stargazer last edited by

                                                    @Stargazer said in Waratahs vs Crusaders:

                                                    So they can make exceptions to the ABs rest breaks for Dmac and Retallick, but not for Mo'unga and Scott Barrett. Maybe because they expect the Chiefs not to reach the finals and the Crusaders to go all the way? πŸ€”

                                                    It’s only the Tahs.....

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                                                    • Canes4life
                                                      Canes4life @Chris B. last edited by Canes4life

                                                      @Chris-B fancy sparing Dunshea for a few rounds. He would look great in Black and Yellow. πŸ˜ƒ

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                                                      • Chris B.
                                                        Chris B. @Canes4life last edited by

                                                        @Canes4life He would look like a bumblebee! πŸ™‚

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                                                        • Stargazer
                                                          Stargazer @Chris B. last edited by

                                                          @Chris-B said in Waratahs vs Crusaders:

                                                          So, in the injury ward we have: Joe Moody, Tim Perry, Manasa Mataele, Oli Jager, Israel Dagg

                                                          Rested: Richie Mo'unga, Scott Barrett, Kieran Read

                                                          Not selected: Blackadder, Dunshea, Funnell, Harmon, Bateman, Drummond, Faingaanuku, Punavai

                                                          We've got a decent squad! πŸ™‚

                                                          Oli Jager was named in the Crusaders Knights squad for their game, last Saturday. So he's no longer injured.
                                                          Isn't Sevu Reece signed as injury replacement for Mataele?

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                                                            African Monkey @Canes4life last edited by

                                                            @Canes4life Geez I know you guys are desperate for locks but are you really that desperate? He's average.

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                                                            • Canes4life
                                                              Canes4life @African Monkey last edited by

                                                              @African-Monkey at 6cm taller than Blackwell - yes please.

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                                                              • Tim
                                                                Tim @African Monkey last edited by Tim

                                                                @African-Monkey Who are the tier of locks below the All Blacks?

                                                                (Whitelock, Barrett, Retallick, Romano, and Tuipulotu)

                                                                Strange, Parkinson, Scrafton? Anyone else? Walker-Leawere (1.97m) for the future?

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                                                                • Bones
                                                                  Bones @Tim last edited by

                                                                  @Tim I'd say Franklin probably needs to be taken into consideration, having been there or thereabouts.

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                                                                    African Monkey @Canes4life last edited by

                                                                    @Canes4life Haha fair call.

                                                                    @Tim Hemopo? He's still gonna play Super Rugby isn't he as well as in Japan? Fifita as well I guess would come into consideration if we had injury problems there.

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                                                                    • Tim
                                                                      Tim @African Monkey last edited by

                                                                      @African-Monkey said in Waratahs vs Crusaders:

                                                                      Hemopo? He's still gonna play Super Rugby isn't he as well as in Japan?

                                                                      Nah, he's off fully from the sounds of things.

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                                                                      • booboo
                                                                        booboo @Steven Harris last edited by booboo

                                                                        @Steven-Harris said in Waratahs vs Crusaders:

                                                                        Just been relayed some information regarding the Crusaders winning streak..according to SANZAR even though the Saders v Landers match was abandoned,.therefore the Crusaders winning streak is officially over..a bit unfair if you ask me,after all no game was played even though there points for the draw given out.thoughts..?

                                                                        Who is the arbiter of what constitutes a winning streak? In my opinion it's srill going.

                                                                        "Official" records may disagree.

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                                                                        • NTA
                                                                          NTA @booboo last edited by

                                                                          @booboo said in Waratahs vs Crusaders:

                                                                          "Official" records may disagree.

                                                                          Cantabs never paid any mind to officials anyway πŸ˜‰

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                                                                          • taniwharugby
                                                                            taniwharugby @Tim last edited by

                                                                            @Tim Goodhue seems to be moving along nicely this season, getting good minutes under his belt which will help too

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                                                                            • Duluth
                                                                              Duluth @taniwharugby last edited by Duluth

                                                                              @taniwharugby said in Waratahs vs Crusaders:

                                                                              Goodhue seems to be moving along nicely this season, getting good minutes under his belt which will help too

                                                                              He's developing well. I just want to see him throw his weight around a bit more

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                                                                              • antipodean
                                                                                antipodean @booboo last edited by

                                                                                @booboo said in Waratahs vs Crusaders:

                                                                                @Steven-Harris said in Waratahs vs Crusaders:

                                                                                Just been relayed some information regarding the Crusaders winning streak..according to SANZAR even though the Saders v Landers match was abandoned,.therefore the Crusaders winning streak is officially over..a bit unfair if you ask me,after all no game was played even though there points for the draw given out.thoughts..?

                                                                                Who is the arbiter of what constitutes a winning streak? In my opinion it's srill going.

                                                                                "Official" records may disagree.

                                                                                They haven't lost and they haven't drawn a game that was played.

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                                                                                • taniwharugby
                                                                                  taniwharugby @Duluth last edited by

                                                                                  @Duluth yeah possibly a confidence thing (which is growing too) last couple of seasons everytime he looked to be finding his feet he got injured...

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                                                                                    Steven Harris @antipodean last edited by

                                                                                    @antipodean I agree,saw the press release from SANZAR..shows what idiots they are..even the Sky guys were shaking their heads

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