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    A bit more info:

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    Back row of Jacobsen, Cane and Savea?

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    A logical choice. I wonder if that also points to Ioane starting or getting significant time at 1st 5.

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    Any word on whether the Argentinians will be resting their Jaguerians?

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    @sparky said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

    Back row of Jacobsen, Cane and Savea?

    I think they'll choose Fifita now with Jacobson or Papali'i on the bench. Happy if one of the young fellas get a start though.

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    @Bovidae said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

    @sparky said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

    Back row of Jacobsen, Cane and Savea?

    I think they'll choose Fifita now with Jacobson or Papali'i on the bench. Happy if one of the young fellas get a start though.

    With Frizzell out, I think we go with Fifita now too.

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    @Nevorian said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

    Any word on whether the Argentinians will be resting their Jaguerians?

    It’s only a friendly. I’d say so.

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    All Blacks squad for Argentina and first test on July 21:

    Asafo Aumua, Dane Coles, Liam Coltman, Nepo Laulala, Atu Moli, Angus Ta'avao, Karl Tu'inukuafe, Ofa Tuungafasi, Brodie Retallick, Patrick Tuipulotu, Jackson Hemopo, Sam Cane (c), Vaea Fifita, Luke Jacobson, Dalton Papalii, Ardie Savea, TJ Perenara, Aaron Smith,
    Brad Weber, Beauden Barrett, Josh Ioane, Ngani Laumape, Anton Lienert-Brown, Sonny Bill Williams, Braydon Ennor, Jordie Barrett, George Bridge, Rieko Ioane, Sevu Reece, Ben Smith (vc).

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=12249088

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    @Tim that's a pretty damn young group of loose forwards and outside backs there, apart from the tour accountant.

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    @Tim "How many shit games does SBW get before he's fucked off? If he was a racehorse he'd be shot" - mariner4life, 11/11/2018

    Even when he's just a guaranteed water boy they keep him in the team

    Interesting to see the 23, and those of the hagumas

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    @Machpants said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

    @Tim "How many shit games does SBW get before he's fucked off? If he was a racehorse he'd be shot" - mariner4life, 11/11/2018

    Even when he's just a guaranteed water boy they keep him in the team

    Interesting to see the 23, and those of the hagumas

    I love how his presence is a whole story

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    Pumas squad from which they'll select the team for the first test against the All Blacks:

    4f692b96-37f2-4472-ad47-c44179850823-image.png

    Argentina included five European-based players but omitted Juan Imhoff from their squad for next weekend’s Rugby Championship match against New Zealand, the Argentinian Rugby Union announced.
    The Argentine governing body has recently softened restrictions on individuals with contracts outside the country representing the Pumas.
    
    Head coach Mario Ledesma picked four European-based players: fly-half Nicolas Sanchez, who is with Stade Francais, Toulon back-rower Facundo Isa, Bordeaux-Begles winger Santiago Cordero and Saracens prop Juan Figallo.
    
    But Ledesma omitted winger Imhoff, 31, whose last international appearance came at the 2015 Rugby World Cup and plays for Racing 92 in France.
    
    Castres fly-half Benjamin Urdapilleta, is also absent, but he is injured and is part of Ledesma’s preliminary Rugby World Cup squad.
    
    The majority of the 30-man squad come from a Jaguares side who reached the Super Rugby final for the first time on July 7, losing to 10-time winners the Crusaders.
    
    Centre Lucas Mensa is the only uncapped player.
    
    Jul 14, 2019

    The Rugby Championship: Argentina name foreign-based players for All Blacks clash

    The Rugby Championship: Argentina name foreign-based players for All Blacks clash

    Sanchez back as Pumas name foreign-based players for All Blacks clash

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    @Stargazer said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

    Pumas squad from which they'll select the team for the first test against the All Blacks:

    4f692b96-37f2-4472-ad47-c44179850823-image.png

    Argentina included five European-based players but omitted Juan Imhoff from their squad for next weekend’s Rugby Championship match against New Zealand, the Argentinian Rugby Union announced.
    The Argentine governing body has recently softened restrictions on individuals with contracts outside the country representing the Pumas.
    
    Head coach Mario Ledesma picked four European-based players: fly-half Nicolas Sanchez, who is with Stade Francais, Toulon back-rower Facundo Isa, Bordeaux-Begles winger Santiago Cordero and Saracens prop Juan Figallo.
    
    But Ledesma omitted winger Imhoff, 31, whose last international appearance came at the 2015 Rugby World Cup and plays for Racing 92 in France.
    
    Castres fly-half Benjamin Urdapilleta, is also absent, but he is injured and is part of Ledesma’s preliminary Rugby World Cup squad.
    
    The majority of the 30-man squad come from a Jaguares side who reached the Super Rugby final for the first time on July 7, losing to 10-time winners the Crusaders.
    
    Centre Lucas Mensa is the only uncapped player.
    
    Jul 14, 2019

    The Rugby Championship: Argentina name foreign-based players for All Blacks clash

    The Rugby Championship: Argentina name foreign-based players for All Blacks clash

    Sanchez back as Pumas name foreign-based players for All Blacks clash

    Good squad. Jags were stronger 😀

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    When is the team named?

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    @pakman said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

    When is the team named?

    Thank God!!!

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    In the build up to the All Blacks first Rugby Championship match this weekend, the team has been leaked to the media. In a strange twist coach Steve Hansen has only selected three names to start in Buenos Aires.

    11-Sevu Reece
    13-Braydon Ennor
    14-George Bridge

    Assistant coach Ian Foster was seen mumbling under his breath asking Steve, what about the other 12? To which Steve gave a swift response, ‘they’re still on mad Monday’

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    @ACT-Crusader said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

    In the build up to the All Blacks first Rugby Championship match this weekend, the team has been leaked to the media. In a strange twist coach Steve Hansen has only selected three names to start in Buenos Aires.

    11-Sevu Reece
    13-Braydon Ennor
    14-George Bridge

    Assistant coach Ian Foster was seen mumbling under his breath asking Steve, what about the other 12? To which Steve gave a swift response, ‘they’re still on mad Monday’

    This is clearly fake. Everyone knows Reece is a right winger and Bridge has been playing left wing all year.....

    For those actually interested the team is named Friday morning (Thurs Argie time).

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    Can someone tell me why @Jaguares4real got banned?

    I’d love his views on how this friendly will go.

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    @MN5 said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

    Can someone tell me why @Jaguares4real got banned?

    I’d love his views on how this friendly will go.

    If I had to guess he was making a general nuisance of himself, trolling on a number of threads including the NZ politics one

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    @canefan said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

    @MN5 said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

    Can someone tell me why @Jaguares4real got banned?

    I’d love his views on how this friendly will go.

    If I had to guess he was making a general nuisance of himself, trolling on a number of threads including the NZ politics one

    and Bingo was his name-o

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    @MN5 It's a temporary ban

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    @Duluth said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

    @MN5 It's a temporary ban

    Hope he’s back in time for the weekend then !

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    @MN5 I doubt he will watch as no one in Argentina cares about games outside the RWC.

    Back to the game, wil be an interesting test match, with an a/b AB team being run out, against a Puma side chock full of Jaguares who should be a step ahead of the ABs in terms or preparation with majority of thier lads playing together all season.

    I see TAB giving $1.90 for a 13.5 point start to the Pumas, seems a reasonable option.

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    @taniwharugby said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

    @MN5 I doubt he will watch as no one in Argentina cares about games outside the RWC.

    Back to the game, wil be an interesting test match, with an a/b AB team being run out, against a Puma side chock full of Jaguares who should be a step ahead of the ABs in terms or preparation with majority of thier lads playing together all season.

    I see TAB giving $1.90 for a 13.5 point start to the Pumas, seems a reasonable option.

    OK. Hope the ABs don't mind playing in an empty stadium. Might be quite eerie for them.

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    @KiwiMurph said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

    @ACT-Crusader said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

    In the build up to the All Blacks first Rugby Championship match this weekend, the team has been leaked to the media. In a strange twist coach Steve Hansen has only selected three names to start in Buenos Aires.

    11-Sevu Reece
    13-Braydon Ennor
    14-George Bridge

    Assistant coach Ian Foster was seen mumbling under his breath asking Steve, what about the other 12? To which Steve gave a swift response, ‘they’re still on mad Monday’

    This is clearly fake. Everyone knows Reece is a right winger and Bridge has been playing left wing all year.....

    For those actually interested the team is named Friday morning (Thurs Argie time).

    Steve likes to mix things up just to keep the fans interested.

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    @MN5 @taniwharugby I'm not sure it's a great look trolling him while banned as he was banned for trolling

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    @Duluth said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

    @MN5 It's a temporary ban

    Temporary until the end of the rugby season I hope. I’m all for alternate views but not for what his posts turned into. Found myself just rapidly scrolling through mountains of posts. He committed the ultimate forum sin - his posts became boring.

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    @taniwharugby said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

    @MN5 I doubt he will watch as no one in Argentina cares about games outside the RWC.

    Back to the game, wil be an interesting test match, with an a/b AB team being run out, against a Puma side chock full of Jaguares who should be a step ahead of the ABs in terms or preparation with majority of thier lads playing together all season.

    I see TAB giving $1.90 for a 13.5 point start to the Pumas, seems a reasonable option.

    Yeah bit in bold is the bit that can't be assigned to it.

    Reckon the ABs will be pretty fired up, few guys with a point to prove there.

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    My predicted team for the first test

    1. Tu’ungafasi
    2. Coles
    3. Tu’inukuafe
    4. Retallick
    5. Tuipulotu
    6. Fifita
    7. Cane
    8. Savea
    9. Smith
    10. Barrett
    11. Ioane
    12. Laumape
    13. Leinert-Brown
    14. Bridge
    15. Smith
    16. Coltman
    17. Laulala
    18. Taavao
    19. Hemopo
    20. Jacobsen
    21. Perenara
    22. Ioane
    23. Ennor
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    @Dolamite

    I don't think they're going to play Tu'inukuafe at TH with Laulala and Taavoa also in the squad. I'd expect big Karl to be named at LH (1 or 17) and Laulala or Taavoa to start at TH (and the other on the bench). Tu'ungafasi can cover both, so he'll probably end up in the 17 jersey if he doesn't start.

    Considering Aaron Smith and Josh Ioane play together for the Highlanders, and it will be Ioane's debut, I'd expect both to be named on the bench. So I think TJP may get the start.

    Agree with the rest.

    Edit: forgot that Moli is in the squad, too. Tu'ungafasi will probably start at TH then, and Moli on the bench (17).

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    @Dolamite

    Pretty close to what I'd go with, assuming SBW stays injured:

    1. Tu’inukuafe
    2. Coles
    3. Tu’ungafasi
    4. Retallick
    5. Tuipulotu
    6. Fifita
    7. Cane
    8. Savea
    9. TJP (Smith)
    10. Barrett
    11. Ioane
    12. Laumape
    13. Leinert-Brown
    14. Bridge
    15. Smith
    16. Coltman
    17. Moli
    18. Taavao/Laulala
    19. Hemopo
    20. Jacobsen/Papalii
    21. Smith (TJP)
    22. Ioane
    23. Ennor
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    Does that guy on reddit still leak the teams?

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    When did Bridge last play on the right wing? Ever?

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    @Bovidae

    That’s a good point - I was wondering whether that lay behind the Blues running Ioane out at 14 in a game. That would be huge if they moved him to play Bridge.

    I’m sure I read somewhere that Bridge is part of their plans, so I expect him to get more time than Reece - which means Reece to start and Bridge left right out I guess 😉

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    @gt12 Could see Bridge or Jordie at fullback with BFA on the right wing.

    I wouldn't be surprised if Jordie is in the no.14 jersey either.

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    @Bovidae said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:
    I wouldn't be surprised if Jordie is in the no.14 jersey either.

    Fuck I hope not.
    George Bridge appears both quicker and better under the high ball than him

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    @Frank Jordie’s last start for the ABs was on the right wing and he didn’t go too bad there.

    Albeit that was against Italy, but then again the Argies are another tier 2 nation....

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    Yealden reckons Ennor & Ioane are likely to come off the bench, with Jacobson competing with Papali'i for a bench spot too, with no run on debutants.

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    1. Moli
    2. Coles
    3. Laulala
    4. Retallick
    5. Tuipulotu
    6. Fifita
    7. Cane
    8. Savea
    9. Perenara
    10. Barrett (B)
    11. Ioane (R)
    12. Laumape
    13. Leinert-Brown
    14. Reece
    15. Smith (B)
    16. Coltman
    17. Tu’inukuafe
    18. Tu’ungafasi
    19. Hemopo
    20. Papalii
    21. Smith (A)
    22. Ioane (J)
    23. Barrett (J)
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