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@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Godder said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Paekakboyz said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@MajorRage have we seen the nz govt say it's an eradication goal? I haven't caught that anywhere as yet.
I think the NZ goal is elimination, not eradication, as people will still travel here with it from time to time (and be quarantined on arrival).
Those 2 words are synonyms, I even went to the dictionary to check.
Your post sounds like govt PR spin. Swap elimination with eradication in your sentence and vice versa and nothing changes.2 = 2 = 5?
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@antipodean could be moot depending on how fast airlines bounce back or new ones surface - although I'm hopeful we'll get travel up and running between NZ-Oz asap, followed by the islands... but unsure how the latter will pan out if Covid is still rife with our pacific neighbours.
Who knows what protocols the airlines might impose on travellers - suspect it'll be a collective and coordinated approach between govt(s) and travel providers.
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@antipodean said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Godder said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Paekakboyz said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@MajorRage have we seen the nz govt say it's an eradication goal? I haven't caught that anywhere as yet.
I think the NZ goal is elimination, not eradication, as people will still travel here with it from time to time (and be quarantined on arrival).
How many people do you think will extend their planned business trip or holiday by two weeks?
@antipodean said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Godder said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Paekakboyz said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@MajorRage have we seen the nz govt say it's an eradication goal? I haven't caught that anywhere as yet.
I think the NZ goal is elimination, not eradication, as people will still travel here with it from time to time (and be quarantined on arrival).
How many people do you think will extend their planned business trip or holiday by two weeks?
With testing, doesn't htat drop to 2-4 days, rather than 2 weeks? That's difficult, but not impossible
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@nzzp said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@antipodean said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Godder said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Paekakboyz said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@MajorRage have we seen the nz govt say it's an eradication goal? I haven't caught that anywhere as yet.
I think the NZ goal is elimination, not eradication, as people will still travel here with it from time to time (and be quarantined on arrival).
How many people do you think will extend their planned business trip or holiday by two weeks?
@antipodean said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Godder said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Paekakboyz said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@MajorRage have we seen the nz govt say it's an eradication goal? I haven't caught that anywhere as yet.
I think the NZ goal is elimination, not eradication, as people will still travel here with it from time to time (and be quarantined on arrival).
How many people do you think will extend their planned business trip or holiday by two weeks?
With testing, doesn't htat drop to 2-4 days, rather than 2 weeks? That's difficult, but not impossible
They will have to improve accuracy too
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@canefan said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@nzzp said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@antipodean said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Godder said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Paekakboyz said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@MajorRage have we seen the nz govt say it's an eradication goal? I haven't caught that anywhere as yet.
I think the NZ goal is elimination, not eradication, as people will still travel here with it from time to time (and be quarantined on arrival).
How many people do you think will extend their planned business trip or holiday by two weeks?
@antipodean said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Godder said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Paekakboyz said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@MajorRage have we seen the nz govt say it's an eradication goal? I haven't caught that anywhere as yet.
I think the NZ goal is elimination, not eradication, as people will still travel here with it from time to time (and be quarantined on arrival).
How many people do you think will extend their planned business trip or holiday by two weeks?
With testing, doesn't htat drop to 2-4 days, rather than 2 weeks? That's difficult, but not impossible
They will have to improve accuracy too
Agree, but given how far we've come in 4-6 weeks, another month or two could see a real step change.
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@nzzp said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@antipodean said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Godder said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Paekakboyz said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@MajorRage have we seen the nz govt say it's an eradication goal? I haven't caught that anywhere as yet.
I think the NZ goal is elimination, not eradication, as people will still travel here with it from time to time (and be quarantined on arrival).
How many people do you think will extend their planned business trip or holiday by two weeks?
With testing, doesn't htat drop to 2-4 days, rather than 2 weeks?
Everything I've seen is two weeks quarantine.
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@nzzp said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@antipodean said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Godder said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Paekakboyz said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@MajorRage have we seen the nz govt say it's an eradication goal? I haven't caught that anywhere as yet.
I think the NZ goal is elimination, not eradication, as people will still travel here with it from time to time (and be quarantined on arrival).
How many people do you think will extend their planned business trip or holiday by two weeks?
@antipodean said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Godder said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Paekakboyz said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@MajorRage have we seen the nz govt say it's an eradication goal? I haven't caught that anywhere as yet.
I think the NZ goal is elimination, not eradication, as people will still travel here with it from time to time (and be quarantined on arrival).
How many people do you think will extend their planned business trip or holiday by two weeks?
With testing, doesn't htat drop to 2-4 days, rather than 2 weeks? That's difficult, but not impossible
I'm guessing only if the test is negative (is that the good one)?
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@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Godder said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Paekakboyz said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@MajorRage have we seen the nz govt say it's an eradication goal? I haven't caught that anywhere as yet.
I think the NZ goal is elimination, not eradication, as people will still travel here with it from time to time (and be quarantined on arrival).
Those 2 words are synonyms, I even went to the dictionary to check.
Your post sounds like govt PR spin. Swap elimination with eradication in your sentence and vice versa and nothing changes.In epidemiology, eliminate means to have no cases in a region, and eradicate means to have no cases anywhere in the world.
An example of a disease which NZ has eliminated is rabies - can't get it here other than from overseas sources, but obviously it's still around in other parts of the world.
Smallpox is the only disease to be eradicated under the epidemiological definition.
No spin, just science.
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@antipodean said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Godder said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Paekakboyz said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@MajorRage have we seen the nz govt say it's an eradication goal? I haven't caught that anywhere as yet.
I think the NZ goal is elimination, not eradication, as people will still travel here with it from time to time (and be quarantined on arrival).
How many people do you think will extend their planned business trip or holiday by two weeks?
Probably not many, hence all the predictions about the demise of international tourism as a significant part of the NZ economy. Get reliable quick result testing or a vaccine, and that will probably change.
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@Paekakboyz said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@MajorRage have we seen the nz govt say it's an eradication goal? I haven't caught that anywhere as yet.
Dunno mate to be honest, but given the aggressive approach it has to be doesn't it? Not seen much written about flatting curves etc which is all the rage over here.
I actually think once it's out, it's out. You can't really stop it, you can only slow it. But NZ numbers are so low, that there is realistically a chance of stopping it. Isn't 18 months the number being thrown around there will be some pretty heavy restrictions in place? If so, I don't think it's a co-incidence that is also a realistic timeframe for a vaccine.
Just to add - 18 months is what I heard from my old man. I only have enough fucks to give about Covid and I use most of them up on local (to me) news. So I'm not even close to fully educated on NZ's response, but it is the poster child over here for many commentators.
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Quite like Trump's move here. Of course, like most thing DT related, there are holes to be picked in many places, and contradictions to his comments if you look hard enough.
But this immediately puts a bit of distrust on the WHO, and Trump is right to highlight this.
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https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12324675
I know it's people's livelihoods and the city has to eat. But this is not a good look. If they can build a hospital in a few days surely they can do something about the conditions in the city market?
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@antipodean said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@nzzp said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@antipodean said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Godder said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Paekakboyz said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@MajorRage have we seen the nz govt say it's an eradication goal? I haven't caught that anywhere as yet.
I think the NZ goal is elimination, not eradication, as people will still travel here with it from time to time (and be quarantined on arrival).
How many people do you think will extend their planned business trip or holiday by two weeks?
With testing, doesn't htat drop to 2-4 days, rather than 2 weeks?
Everything I've seen is two weeks quarantine.
I think they'd need to test BEFORE people boarded plane. I'd guess it takes more than a few hours for the virus to replicate enough to be identifiable. If so, if anyone on plane tests positive the whole plane might need to be quarantined.
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@pakman said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@antipodean said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@nzzp said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@antipodean said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Godder said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Paekakboyz said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@MajorRage have we seen the nz govt say it's an eradication goal? I haven't caught that anywhere as yet.
I think the NZ goal is elimination, not eradication, as people will still travel here with it from time to time (and be quarantined on arrival).
How many people do you think will extend their planned business trip or holiday by two weeks?
With testing, doesn't htat drop to 2-4 days, rather than 2 weeks?
Everything I've seen is two weeks quarantine.
I think they'd need to test BEFORE people boarded plane. I'd guess it takes more than a few hours for the virus to replicate enough to be identifiable. If so, if anyone on plane tests positive the whole plane might need to be quarantined.
I think ideally it would be test at both ends of the trip, and maybe a required doctor's test a week before as well. That might be overkill though.
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Hope it doesn't use 5G...
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@Victor-Meldrew pissed myself reading the last para.
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Oh well, had to happen I guess...
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Coronavirus - Overall:
Oh well, had to happen I guess...
Spot on
Excellent poem
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@MiketheSnow I don't get it, why is it spot on?
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