Coronavirus - Overall
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@Catogrande God that would be amazing if true. 🙏🏻
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Catogrande said in Coronavirus - Overall:
BBC reports that “whilst the number of deaths has risen the rate of increase in infections has slowed”.
Was that today? Figures came out at around 1600.
Really, really hope you're right and I'm wrong
From the live updates but no figures quoted
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Overall rate of increase (bell curve) is heading down but cases went up today.
March 21 6557 new cases
March 22 5560 new cases
March 23 4789 new cases
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@Victor-Meldrew Yeah it was the rate of increase they said was declining. Let’s hope
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@booboo said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@voodoo said in Coronavirus - Overall:
In Australia hairdressers (and beauticians) are being deemed essential.
Limited to half hour appointments.
Nail salons and beauticians canned.
Mrs Boo thinks we're going to be very shabby looking zombies.
I don't think I've ever had an hair cut that gets close to taking half an hour. I'm sorted, aside from the barbers I go to is staffed by Chinese and owned by an Italian dude.
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@Virgil said in Coronavirus - Overall:
Hopefully they don’t mix up the batches...
A Cider company near Truro is doing the same thing.
No problems mixing up batches as there'd be no way of telling.
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@Catogrande said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@canefan Yeah but kids are way more unpredictable than this virus.
Yeah. Point I was making was that one or two days of good news might not be a pattern
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@barbarian said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@antipodean said in Coronavirus - Overall:
State and Federal governments are making this up as they go along. Terrified of their own incompetence after a cruise ship of all things docked and the sick wandered off into the populace.
I disagree with this. Easily the toughest challenge for any Government in modern memory and I think both State and Federal Governments are doing OK.
It depends on what criteria you use to satisfy "ok". I think it's apparent that in the last few days they've clearly not doing this well. Policy response has been muddled and haphazard. I've already pointed out how DHS wasn't adequately resourced for the announcements on Sunday night which they were blindsided by. Knowing which industries they were going to affect should have enabled them to determine based on ABS stats to approximate a much better guesstimate of the amount of people affected.
Then there's the example of the QLD border closure at Coolangatta - Tweed Heads. For those unaware, this is what that border looks like:
There are optical things I think they aren't quite nailing - Morrison's communication of the restrictions, or the fact that it happens at 9:20pm when a lot of the nation have switched off for the day.
But they are clearly taking the advice of experts, and I think the plan is quite clear as well. They are staging the shutdowns based on risk but with a view to keeping businesses open and operating as long as possible to preserve jobs.
Despite the spread our mortality rate is still very low which means we are protecting our vulnerable as best we can.
The cynicism from some online is saddening at times. I'm not a 'rally round the troops' kind of guy but some people want to believe the worst of every politician, as if Morrison and co aren't taking the advice of the medicos at every stage and there's some magic solution to this problem that they are all just too dumb to notice.
I didn't mention that, but if these measures are required, the argument that they should be phased in is clearly nonsense.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Coronavirus - Overall:
Some pretty impressive stuff going on in the UK.
A 4,000 bed hospital has been set up in London in 10 days and will start taking patients on Thursday.
Ineos, (a very big chemical company) is building 2 factories to make a million bottles of sanitiser a month and give them to the NHS for free within 10 days
Whatever happens, it won't be for lack of effort.
Yep agree. Think a lot has been extremely impressive and honestly, people on the whole are complying.
Praise seems in short supply from the media tho.
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@MajorRage said in Coronavirus - Overall:
Praise seems in short supply from the media tho.
Media trotting out experts attacking everything. Checked out one guy on the (generally good) BBC a lot who attacks everything - he's compared BoJo's Election win to Hitler's ascension to power in 1934 on twitter. Do the BBC know?
Who'd have thought politicians from all sides would be more balanced and sensible?
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@barbarian said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@antipodean said in Coronavirus - Overall:
State and Federal governments are making this up as they go along. Terrified of their own incompetence after a cruise ship of all things docked and the sick wandered off into the populace.
I disagree with this. Easily the toughest challenge for any Government in modern memory and I think both State and Federal Governments are doing OK.
I reckon between 2 weeks to a month ago Morrison and co had the idea to first see if they could contain it keeping the economy going and if absolutely needed they would do any lockdown over the two weeks that bridge Easter and ANZAC Day. Things have gotten wildly out hand.
I'm a coalition supporter (for the most part) but Morrison has made some total non-sensical moves on this. You can't say I'm going to the footy one weekend and then turnaround and call people idiots for going to Bondi the next. He is coming off totally incoherent and downright combative over something which no other global leader seems to be struggling with besides Trump.
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@R-L I think I am lucky, my wife has not been to a hairdresser, nail place, beauty place for 5 years plus I think, she does it all herself and let her hair go grey awhile ago so no need for hair dye. Probably saves us a few $$ no doubt.
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This entire centrelink debacle is a nightmare. IMO they should have just said we will give every perm resident 18 & over $1000 a month until this thing is over. You don't have to do anything, if you have a tax file number we will give you the money. No need to stand in massive queues, no need for confusion etc etc.
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@chimoaus said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@R-L I think I am lucky, my wife has not been to a hairdresser, nail place, beauty place for 5 years plus I think, she does it all herself and let her hair go grey awhile ago so no need for hair dye. Probably saves us a few $$ no doubt.
No way those places should be allowed to open. That's taking the piss if they consider them to be essential services. Are the beauticians going to be in full hazmat gear?
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@antipodean said in Coronavirus - Overall:
It depends on what criteria you use to satisfy "ok". I think it's apparent that in the last few days they've clearly not doing this well. Policy response has been muddled and haphazard. I've already pointed out how DHS wasn't adequately resourced for the announcements on Sunday night which they were blindsided by. Knowing which industries they were going to affect should have enabled them to determine based on ABS stats to approximate a much better guesstimate of the amount of people affected.
But given the nature of the shutdown, could DHS ever have been prepared? Again I'm not saying they have nailed everything but I don't think there's a world where there wasn't queues at Centrelinks on Monday.
Quite simply the nature and scale of the challenge is unprecedented, so it stands to reason that DHS couldn't handle it for a couple of days.
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@chimoaus said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@canefan Might be time to grow some grass on the pitch, much prefer a bit of grass then flat hard wickets that seem to be in vogue.
I'm a 90s guys, still love a landing strip
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@barbarian said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@antipodean said in Coronavirus - Overall:
It depends on what criteria you use to satisfy "ok". I think it's apparent that in the last few days they've clearly not doing this well. Policy response has been muddled and haphazard. I've already pointed out how DHS wasn't adequately resourced for the announcements on Sunday night which they were blindsided by. Knowing which industries they were going to affect should have enabled them to determine based on ABS stats to approximate a much better guesstimate of the amount of people affected.
But given the nature of the shutdown, could DHS ever have been prepared? Again I'm not saying they have nailed everything but I don't think there's a world where there wasn't queues at Centrelinks on Monday.
Quite simply the nature and scale of the challenge is unprecedented, so it stands to reason that DHS couldn't handle it for a couple of days.
I have some small sympathy for ScoMo's announcements on Sunday which were forced on him by State Premiers panicking and announcing measures which left DHS with no warning.
But had they looked at this days out, they could've provided the capacity online within days and had better messaging asking people not to turn up to shopfronts which are inadequately staffed at the best of times.