Coronavirus - Overall
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@canefan Ella got sick. As a 25 year old, the state gave her minimal resources to help her with being sick, because other people needed them much more. Ella lives in a big city with lots of people So lots of people got sick. Ella got better, which proves the state resources weren't required for her.
End article.
My wife was extremely ill a couple of weeks ago when this all started. She hadn't been in contact with anybody, but we still called the NHS 111 and they ended up sending an ambulance over - she was that bad. They were reluctant to take her to isolation, as that is mandatory 14 days as per govt guidelines. After consultation and vitals, they concluded it was more likely influenza than Covid, and she needed to rest in an isolated part of the house.
Subsequently she has got better, and neither the kids or I got it.
We will likely never know what it was.
Can I get a stuff article?
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Coronavirus - Overall/Rest of the World:
This is bringing out the best and worst in people.
The village up the road has organised on-line shopping, prescription delivery, dog-walking, visits to safe places, phone calls, etc for those self isolating. Local supermarkets & GP practice have been incredibly helpful. All in 2 days.
Had the carpet fitters in yesterday. They had just finished a big job at a care home in Newquay. The care home has to keep its doors locked as people and visitors were walking in, stealing toilet rolls, masks and other medical supplies. Seriously low-life shit.
I can see JC & Owen Jones already talking about the appalling treatment of the care-home thieves and the state should be doing more for them.
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@No-Quarter That is fear propaganda if ever I've read it.
8-15% of people over 70 will die in the US. Well, what percentage of them would die on any normal year?
Twitter, once again, proving itself to be the worst fucking thing on this entire planet.
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@Tim said in Coronavirus - Overall/Rest of the World:
John Ioannidis on the problems of making big decisions based on crappy data:
Is it time to get a robust breakdown of the officially deceased from this virus?
Can we look at exactly who is dying from this. Ages, health status for example. That's easily obtainable.
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@Siam said in Coronavirus - Overall/Rest of the World:
@Tim said in Coronavirus - Overall/Rest of the World:
John Ioannidis on the problems of making big decisions based on crappy data:
Is it time to get a robust breakdown of the officially deceased from this virus?
Can we look at exactly who is dying from this. Ages, health status for example. That's easily obtainable.
Actual useful analysis? No the media like Stuff would rather bring attention to the plight of people like Ella.....
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65 days is unprecedented. Won't be widely available for at least a year, but perhaps they can roll it out sooner for high risk patients?
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@No-Quarter They (the authorities) are already dialling back on that Imperial College report.
It's also a very long read and as is usually the case people skim read and take their favoured viewpoints as take aways.
I agree with MR, twitter is the Hell that we have constructed for ourselves.
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Not sure if already posted but my sis in Wellington sent me this: https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12317669
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@MajorRage said in Coronavirus - Overall/Rest of the World:
@No-Quarter That is fear propaganda if ever I've read it.
8-15% of people over 70 will die in the US. Well, what percentage of them would die on any normal year?
Twitter, once again, proving itself to be the worst fucking thing on this entire planet.
As someone in The Spectator wrote, about social media after a rumour the Tories' Coronavirus strategy was to deliberately kill 20% of the UK population went, uh, viral on the weekend....
"Right now, as I have argued already, social media has the power to disseminate baseless fears, incite panic, and do tangible damage to public health or public order. Running an unedited, unregulated instant publishing platform in the middle of a global pandemic is like handing an AR-15 and a bottle of Jack Daniel’s to a chimpanzee and hoping for the best".
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@pakman said in Coronavirus - Overall/Rest of the World:
Not sure if already posted but my sis in Wellington sent me this: https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12317669
Yesterday;s presser explained things a little differently.
There was/has been no change in strategy, though the timing has changed based on new data. And the "suppression" in the Imperial College report referred to suppression of the infection peak,
Read today that Korea, who have a big testing and isolation strategy, is seeing the disease flare-up in a number of places and if it continues, may change their approach.
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@canefan said in Coronavirus - Overall/Rest of the World:
65 days is unprecedented. Won't be widely available for at least a year, but perhaps they can roll it out sooner for high risk patients?
Possibly nothing to lose. Perhaps the risk and value criteria will change quite quickly in this crisis.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Coronavirus - Overall/Rest of the World:
Read today that Korea, who have a big testing and isolation strategy, is seeing the disease flare-up in a number of places and if it continues, may change their approach.
I hadn't heard that. I thought Sth Korea had things under control
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@Rembrandt said in Coronavirus - Overall/Rest of the World:
Well Woolworths has stopped online shopping. Expected, but was hoping to maybe squeeze one more normal shop in. Now shopping requires battling potentially diseased crowds.
Why bother, there's nothing on the shelves.
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@canefan said in Coronavirus - Overall/Rest of the World:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Coronavirus - Overall/Rest of the World:
Read today that Korea, who have a big testing and isolation strategy, is seeing the disease flare-up in a number of places and if it continues, may change their approach.
I hadn't heard that. I thought Sth Korea had things under control
Asia isn't looking as good as was thought, sadly. Taiwan has also seen a big increase.
The number of coronavirus cases has spiked across Asia, crushing hopes that the region had contained the outbreak.
Officials in South Korea, Taiwan and parts of China and south-east Asia are rushing through new measures after a second wave of new infections following weeks of declines.
Experts say the sudden increase in cases has revealed the limits of both China’s sweeping lockdown of citizens and of the massive public testing and social distancing campaigns rolled out across Asia.
In South Korea, which has suffered Asia’s worst outbreak outside China, the emergence of new clusters and the risk of imported cases has rattled officials.
Authorities in Daegu — South Korea’s fourth-largest city where mass testing and isolation had led to a big reduction in new cases — are now increasing inspections at high-risk facilities after the emergence of new clusters at nursing homes and churches.
“We believe the next two to three weeks will be very crucial,” said Yoon Tae-ho, a senior government health official.*
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@Victor-Meldrew Suggestions are that it is mainly people returning from abroad?
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All the restrictions came into effect here yesterday at noon. The nightly news showing people still not taking it seriously police were berating people in the street sending people home and closing shops, that thought the rules didn't apply to them.
Here in the countryside its not as much of a disruption but still noticeably less traffic around today.
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@Catogrande said in Coronavirus - Overall/Rest of the World:
@Victor-Meldrew Suggestions are that it is mainly people returning from abroad?
Make you wonder how effective the border testing, tracking and isolation strategy Taiwan and Korea have using, is in reality, I guess.
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Been generally impressed with politicians here in the UK, asking sensible questions in Parliament and rising to the occasion. But there's always an exception....
*Andy Carter, a Conservative, asks for an assurance that the government will do all it can to save lives.
Yes, says Johnson.*