The Local



  • Amongst all the negative shit going on in the world right now, I was lucky enough to spend 2 peaceful hours in the ocean on my own the yesterday. For some annoying reason my thoughts drifted to RWC19, and the thread we had on game day movements.

    I remembered @mariner4life mentioning he switched up his plan on QF Saturday to head down to his local for a couple, and it occurred to me that I haven't had a local in a long while, perhaps since my London days which ended more than 12 years ago.

    So, this thread is for those inclined to detail whether they still have a local, and what they love about it. Because I bloody miss having one!



  • @voodoo yeah haven't had a local since moving to Orpington from Twells and do miss it a little. Being able to jump on a 5 minute bus ride to spoons where I can grab a round for me and Bonesetta for less than a fiver (as opposed to nearly twelve) almost makes up for it, but not quite.



  • I used to love the mentality behind the UK local - pop in for 1 or 2 on the way home, like it's an extension of your living room but with mates* instead of family

    *To qualify as a mate, they would simply be someone that you'd give an eyebrow raise or a nod of the head as you walked in. A familiar face, someone you'd talk 15 seconds of crap with at the urinal.

    Just haven't really seen that in Oz since I've been back.



  • Some would say I am spoiled for choice having 4 pubs within a 2 minute walk but what I have is mediocrity in depth. I do favour one though as it is an old fashioned locals’ pub. Too local sometimes. Sadly it seems the old local as we know it is dying out in the UK. @Bones the Bull at St Paul’s Cray used be be a good pub and a bit further afield the Ramblers Rest at Chislehurst was also good. Mind you I am talking years ago now.



  • My local is a fucking ripper. The Red Beret. 3.5km down the road, courtesy bus if required.

    Decked out TAB with a big screen for the ponies. Sports on TV everywhere. Tittie girls on a Thursday. The bistro does bloody good food.

    Owner must make a fortune



  • I sometimes drive down to the local social club with some neighbors for an "early doors" session on late Friday afternoon. Nearest pub to us is 10 miles way.

    Folks around here are all pretty isolated so we take turn hosting a drinks session once a month, which is pretty cool.



  • @mariner4life said in The Local:

    My local is a fucking ripper. The Red Beret. 3.5km down the road, courtesy bus if required.

    Decked out TAB with a big screen for the ponies. Sports on TV everywhere. Tittie girls on a Thursday. The bistro does bloody good food.

    Owner must make a fortune

    So do you know folk there? Do they turn and say "mariner!" in unison when you walk in?



  • @voodoo said in The Local:

    @mariner4life said in The Local:

    My local is a fucking ripper. The Red Beret. 3.5km down the road, courtesy bus if required.

    Decked out TAB with a big screen for the ponies. Sports on TV everywhere. Tittie girls on a Thursday. The bistro does bloody good food.

    Owner must make a fortune

    So do you know folk there? Do they turn and say "mariner!" in unison when you walk in?

    Nah, I don't go that often. I'm mates with everyone in my street so don't need to leave for a social beer. And if I go to the pub, I usually go with them as well.



  • My last local was the Albion in Brisbane. Half of it was done up and served good food, good crowd. The other half was the pokies/ TAB/ TV screens. Nice to see the regulars - just a different atmosphere when you know how people react on the turps and you can sit around talking shit.



  • @Catogrande cheers! We're more towards Petts Wood so might have to head along to Chislehurst. Bugger not having something a 5 minute walk away though.



  • @Bones said in The Local:

    @Catogrande cheers! We're more towards Petts Wood so might have to head along to Chislehurst. Bugger not having something a 5 minute walk away though.

    Well in that case there's always the Daylight if you fancy a punch-up or the Chequers in Southborough Lane which used to be OK.



  • @Catogrande banned from Daylight for bringing a female in so have to settle for Sovereign.



  • Yeah I don't really have a local. The Sport's Club is really close, and I am a member, but it is too old for me. Full of grumpy old gits. Really good when we run our touch tourny there for a few weeks, outside of that I go on ANZAC Day and that's it.

    So my local is a work collegues place who always has a glass of wine in her hand 🤪



  • The sands at Bleak house.

    Full of people who work for McLaren. Who are all dull as shit. Except a salesman whose an old school racist.

    Go there with some folks on my street often. 10 minute walk home through a wood. Mandatory no lights and must take a whisky.

    Great fun.



  • Used to have a few “locals”. Hand in Hand up on the common was the regular couple of times a week outing for us and the dogs. Was voted most dog friendly pub in Britain a few years back and still takes out the London award. Lost a little charm when the brewery tarted it up, which sadly seems necessary these days as most money is made from families eating rather than folk social drinking. The landlord is great though.
    The Dolphin in Betchworth was our “local” on weekends when we would get out of town for a walk/ride in the Surrey Hills. Still has a locals bar at the front which we were regulars enough to be accepted in. Met some interesting folk.
    My personal after work local was “Ain’t nothing but” blues bar in Kingley St, Soho. Always live music starting at 6.30 and would stop in for a pint if in no hurry to get home.

    Best option now is Panhead up at Brewtown. Just a pain to get to from our end of Upper Hutt.



  • Our 'local' is a JImmy Jacks Rib Shack (



  • Our local is the Ettamogah Hotel - themed pub based on the Aussie comic strip, but called "Hotel" instead of "Pub" because a rights issue. Undergoing a small reno at the moment which fucking sucks for our rugby club raffles of a Friday. Gotta love an outdoor area in summer tho.

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    (Note that it is actually quite modern out the back. As @mariner4life describes for his joint: decked out TAB. Multiple bars. Good food. No tiddy tho - its a family joint but a fair few yummy mummies as a result).



  • @NTA "Decked out TAB"? This term I do not know.



  • @Catogrande said in The Local:

    @NTA "Decked out TAB"? This term I do not know.

    Go to a club if you want a TAB or Pokies or TVs IMO. Pubs should be for social interaction (and drinking) not staring at screens.

    The pubs we liked in the UK would clearly let everyone know before if they were going to have the TVs on eg Guiness promotion during 6N etc. so you could stay way or still go depending on preference.



  • @Crucial Mate, TVs I understand. TAB and Pokies not so much.



  • @Catogrande said in The Local:

    @Crucial Mate, TVs I understand. TAB and Pokies not so much.

    Yeah. Pubs in NZ and Aus will combine betting and gambling machines as a big part of the setup. Not a casual relaxing atmosphere IMO.

    Easy to avoid in UK of course, betting shops are separate and one armed bandits are usually only in Wetherspoons type places which are generally best avoided anyway



  • @Crucial So pokies = slots? TAB being like the Tote?



  • @Catogrande said in The Local:

    @Crucial So pokies = slots? TAB being like the Tote?

    Yep. TAB = Totaliser Agency Board. We don't have bookies in NZ.
    Pokies = Slot Machines (although years ago that referred to anything you put a coin in, such a spacies)



  • @Crucial You sometimes get that pub (well cafe really)/ bookies in France and I've never really seen the attraction, but then again I'm not much of a punter. However the idea of booze and gambling in the same small space seems a bit stupid to me.



  • The area I live in used to have no pubs. I used to occasionally walk to the Trough (Northcote Tavern) which is an Auckland institution and one where I have been drinking on and off for decades. I'm still known by sight but not by name.

    Then about 17 years ago a pub opened up seven minutes walk away. Nothing spectacular but a good modern gastro pub. I knew the owner which got me a discount card and a free round whenever he would see me. Staff then decided I must be a VIP so I am treated like one.

    Even better 4 years ago a craft ale bar opened BBC (Birkenhead Brewing Co) 50 metres further away from the first pub. They are in an old villa and have set themselves up really well - do good food are always pumping. Turns out I knew the owner (or rather his missus) there too so I get 10% discount on everything. Great beers and the regulars all know me by sight. I'm not one to chat with people but I do enjoy getting out amongst other people enjoying the vibe and a few quiets rather than just sitting at home with the friggin cat.

    As a result at the end of my nightly walks my feet seem to lead me to one (or both) of my locals.



  • @Crucial said in The Local:

    @Catogrande said in The Local:

    @NTA "Decked out TAB"? This term I do not know.

    Go to a club if you want a TAB or Pokies or TVs IMO. Pubs should be for social interaction (and drinking) not staring at screens.

    The pubs we liked in the UK would clearly let everyone know before if they were going to have the TVs on eg Guiness promotion during 6N etc. so you could stay way or still go depending on preference.

    not sure you could sound any more pompous than in this post.



  • @Catogrande said in The Local:

    @Crucial Mate, TVs I understand. TAB and Pokies not so much.

    TAB = https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Totalisator_Agency_Board = sports betting, essentially.

    Pokies = Poker machines or slot machines. They're basically everywhere in pubs these days and a shitload of money goes into them. A fair bit comes out in tax and supporting junior sport, so its a tricky balance.

    @mariner4life said in The Local:

    The pubs we liked in the UK would clearly let everyone know before if they were going to have the TVs on eg Guiness promotion during 6N etc. so you could stay way or still go depending on preference.

    not sure you could sound any more pompous than in this post.

    Sounds a bit regimented.



  • @mariner4life said in The Local:

    @Crucial said in The Local:

    @Catogrande said in The Local:

    @NTA "Decked out TAB"? This term I do not know.

    Go to a club if you want a TAB or Pokies or TVs IMO. Pubs should be for social interaction (and drinking) not staring at screens.

    The pubs we liked in the UK would clearly let everyone know before if they were going to have the TVs on eg Guiness promotion during 6N etc. so you could stay way or still go depending on preference.

    not sure you could sound any more pompous than in this post.

    Why pompous? You like pubs with screens and machines, I prefer otherwise. I prefer ones that encourage social interaction on a different basis. I didn't denigrate your preference, just said that my idea of what makes a good 'pub' is different to yours.
    I used to go to sports clubs in Oz as well. I knew what I was going for and it wasn't the same thing as going to a 'pub'
    The fact that there are establishments that specifically cater to what I like and aren't full of pompous people kind of shows that my opinion isn't unique.



  • @Crucial said in The Local:

    Go to a club if you want a TAB or Pokies or TVs IMO. Pubs should be for social interaction (and drinking) not staring at screens.

    righto. Crucial's way is the way, everyone else toe the line



  • @mariner4life said in The Local:

    @Crucial said in The Local:

    Go to a club if you want a TAB or Pokies or TVs IMO. Pubs should be for social interaction (and drinking) not staring at screens.

    righto. Crucial's way is the way, everyone else toe the line

    Completely the opposite of what I typed. I made it very clear that was simply my opinion. You are welcome to your own.
    Isn't that what we do here? Post our opinions?
    'Isn't unique' does not mean 'only right way'



  • @dogmeat said in The Local:

    ... As a result at the end of my nightly walks my feet seem to lead me to one (or both) of my locals.

    The very definition of what makes a local



  • My fav Local memories were from my time in Hampstead. We had a little flat halfway between the tube and the Heath, nothing flash, but a mint location.

    Summertime we drank at the Wells. Bit flash on the food front , but really nice to sit outside on a summers evening with a cider.

    Winter nights were better though at the Holly Bush, fire roaring, flat beer flowing! Unfortunately recent reviews suggest they have hiked the food prices and focus more on dining than the casual drinkers. Shame.



  • @Crucial said in The Local:

    @Catogrande said in The Local:

    @NTA "Decked out TAB"? This term I do not know.

    Go to a club if you want a TAB or Pokies or TVs IMO. Pubs should be for social interaction (and drinking) not staring at screens.

    The pubs we liked in the UK would clearly let everyone know before if they were going to have the TVs on eg Guiness promotion during 6N etc. so you could stay way or still go depending on preference.

    Avoiding the pompous topic, I do have to these days agree whole heartedly with this.

    I went to a mate in Adelaide's local watering hole a couple of years ago and it was the sports, pokies, betting, mens club type thing. I thought I would have loved it. I hated it, which came as quite a surprise to me.

    I dig the local pub type thing now. Bit of chat, nice warm place, low key atmosphere.

    Very old of me.



  • It may be a reflection on my failings as an Otago Uni student 18-20 years ago but the infamous Captain Cook Tavern was our local. We were known by name with most of the staff and ended up merging our social rugby team with theirs. Even managed a lock-in or two in the corner bar.

    Locals since, in chronological order as I moved around NZ.

    • Fat Sally's (Oamaru)
    • Murphy's Law (Petone) #RIP
    • Mornington Tavern (Dunedin)

    Now I'm back in Wellington, my local of sorts (although I don't get there often due to living in Mt Cook and now Wadestown) is Lone Star Petone, as I'm good mates with the owner. It's by no means considered a place for a bet but he'll give me cash to put in my TAB account, he'll flick Trackside on one of the TVs and away we go for an evening of syndicate punting. Plus I get the occaisonal free beer.



  • @Bones said in Lockdown Check In:

    @Catogrande shit, honestly have only been to the white heart down that way. If we're heading down high street it's usually to somewhere like Pato Lounge which is good for a feed and a beer.

    My colleague is Oprtington born & bred. Says his local is the Maxwell near the stations - which is a boozers boozer.



  • @MajorRage said in Lockdown Check In:

    @Bones said in Lockdown Check In:

    @Catogrande shit, honestly have only been to the white heart down that way. If we're heading down high street it's usually to somewhere like Pato Lounge which is good for a feed and a beer.

    My colleague is Oprtington born & bred. Says his local is the Maxwell near the stations - which is a boozers boozer.

    Was always so. Very much a station pub. Off the train, in the boozer for a couple then back home to face the family. Commuter life. The Daylight at Petts Wood fulfilled the same service early evening hours.



  • @MajorRage said in Lockdown Check In:

    @Bones said in Lockdown Check In:

    @Catogrande shit, honestly have only been to the white heart down that way. If we're heading down high street it's usually to somewhere like Pato Lounge which is good for a feed and a beer.

    My colleague is Oprtington born & bred. Says his local is the Maxwell near the stations - which is a boozers boozer.

    Oof, yeah that's really only one that's a visit only out of necessity for me. On a par with the sovereign I mentioned earlier, but with nothing else around it.



  • @Catogrande @Bones when I lived in Chislehurst, I was told by the locals that you only go to Orpington for as long as you can hold your breath. 🙂

    I actually used to quite like it there.



  • @Hooroo yeah the pubs there look good eh but I have to wait until I've saved up enough to buy half a pint. Might get along there for Xmas.



  • Following this pub conversation and I had a quick look on the GPG app (still on my phone)

    If you filter the area for GPG rated pubs only it turns into a wasteland. A Sydney Arms and a Crown near Chislehurst but neither of the write ups would entice me there.

    Take the filter off and Harvest Moon, Blacksmiths Arms and Cricketers. I'm actually surprised that @Bones hasn't made the 'Buff Orpington' his regular 😉

    GPG certainly doesn't pick up everything good but I found it useful when travelling and looking ahead for somewhere to stop. Mostly if they have a red rating on GPG you'll find a decent spot with good beer. Have found some real beauties using it.


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