Coronavirus - New Zealand
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@Kruse said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@nzzp said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@nzzp I'm not disputing that but rather how sustainable it is / was. Pandemic (unfortunately) does give us time for a pause and to decide whether that is the best strategy.
It will be interesting to see if this is the epoch changing event that kills cheap international travel, and heralds an era of less travel. I'm not sure it's a bad thing - one of my kids bemoans the fact that 'all the people in his class' have passports and ahve been overseas.
That said, we were contemplating an extended trip around Europe next year - like 3-4 months. Was exciting, but looks completely off the table now. However, relocating to a country for a year (or 6 months) could be an interesting option.
The timing was quite good in that respect, for me personally. I got through 21 countries in 2019, so enough travel to last me a while. But, on the other hand... I got "stuck" in New Zealand, and pretty much forced into repatriation earlier than I'd intended.
I keep telling myself I'm actually lucky - I've found a job (starting next month), and even if all my shit is sitting in London, I'm about to have income again.
I just hope I don't come to subconsciously resent it.Mate if you need storage, I have a near empty garage en bloc for free! Just needs a decent door with a lock
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... and the hits just keep on coming. Even one of the Unite union officials says the government has screwed this up and “ It shows the danger of policy by press release, that actually there needs to be follow-through”. That pretty much sums up what has happened here. The government believed they were competent because they never bothered to check whether their thoughts were turning into actions.
No mention of this in Stuff or the Herald that I can see.
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I didn't hear about this development until now
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@nzzp said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@nzzp I'm not disputing that but rather how sustainable it is / was. Pandemic (unfortunately) does give us time for a pause and to decide whether that is the best strategy.
It will be interesting to see if this is the epoch changing event that kills cheap international travel, and heralds an era of less travel. I'm not sure it's a bad thing - one of my kids bemoans the fact that 'all the people in his class' have passports and ahve been overseas.
That said, we were contemplating an extended trip around Europe next year - like 3-4 months. Was exciting, but looks completely off the table now. However, relocating to a country for a year (or 6 months) could be an interesting option.
Some relevant points from Tony Blair:
BBC cut him off!
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@Catogrande said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@pakman The Tony Blair Institute for Global Change. backed by William Hague and Jeremy Hunt. Now there's a club I wouldn't want to join.
He does make a good point about travel, testing and risk though.
Does he though?
We have the two test regime for people in managed isolation - Day 3 and Day 11. I'm not certain of the precise breakdown but in the daily reporting there are plenty who get picked up on Day 11.
So while a one off test at (or before the border) will definitely stop some cases from getting out it won't come anywhere near catching them all.
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@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Catogrande said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@pakman The Tony Blair Institute for Global Change. backed by William Hague and Jeremy Hunt. Now there's a club I wouldn't want to join.
He does make a good point about travel, testing and risk though.
Does he though?
We have the two test regime for people in managed isolation - Day 3 and Day 11. I'm not certain of the precise breakdown but in the daily reporting there are plenty who get picked up on Day 11.
So while a one off test at (or before the border) will definitely stop some cases from getting out it won't come anywhere near catching them all.
In the fern tradition of not reading the article. Assume he is talking UK, so not an elimination strategy, so maybe a one-off test is sufficient to catch 'enough'?
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@Mokey said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
While I'm glad all these orders are being clarified, and decrees/processes put in place...it's fucking MID AUGUST.
The level of numpty is astonishing. We clearly used up about 10 countries worth of
luckinspired and caring leadership to have those months of freedom.FTFY
all the kindness. many of the feels.
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@mariner4life need a hug?
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Has anyone seen any info in the official comms that specifically sets out whether you can drive from outside Auckland to the airport to return to an international destination? I'm struggling to find anything, and in fact, this seems to suggest you need to arrive on an aircraft:
http://www.legislation.govt.nz/regulation/public/2020/0187/latest/LMS389837.html -
@voodoo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Has anyone seen any info in the official comms that specifically sets out whether you can drive from outside Auckland to the airport to return to an international destination? I'm struggling to find anything, and in fact, this seems to suggest you need to arrive on an aircraft:
http://www.legislation.govt.nz/regulation/public/2020/0187/latest/LMS389837.htmlEdit, saw @Godder s post in the other thread, will move myself there
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@voodoo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Has anyone seen any info in the official comms that specifically sets out whether you can drive from outside Auckland to the airport to return to an international destination? I'm struggling to find anything, and in fact, this seems to suggest you need to arrive on an aircraft:
http://www.legislation.govt.nz/regulation/public/2020/0187/latest/LMS389837.htmlhttps://covid19.govt.nz/travel-and-the-border/travel-within-new-zealand/regional-travel/#travel-into,-out-of-and-through-auckland
Expressly stated there that you (and I) can drive into Auckland to catch a commercial flight. -
@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Labour's spin doctors have earned their money today. To hear Cindy speak there haven't really been any issues at the border. They've done a great job. Obviously always looking to improve but really aren't we fucking great!
Trump would be proud. That's Donny level speak right there. And were the assembled media too busy kissing her feet to ask obvious pertinent questions?