Black Lives Matter





  • @Frank Coleman Hughes makes the point that with 330 million people, a 1 in a billion chance event happening to someone (e.g. lightening strike, getting kneeled to death like Tony Timpa in 2019 ) occurs to somebody nearly 3 times a week. Add in the high chance of that incredibly rare event being captured on a smart phone and all of a sudden we're reacting to lightening strikes and lotto wins like they're everyday occurrences that most people will soon experience... unless we change everything right now!

    Our perceptions are so easy to manipulate in these modern times



  • @Siam I'm intrigued, how does that maths work?



  • Me neither but he's earned my trust and I get the gist of what he's saying.
    The world is being dominated by hysterical reactions to very very rare events.
    Policy is being written with little regard to statistical evidence



  • @Bones said in Black Lives Matter:

    @Siam I'm intrigued, how does that maths work?

    @Bones said in Black Lives Matter:

    @Siam I'm intrigued, how does that maths work?

    I would guess that he’s assuming a certain number of different types of 1 in a billion events? I wonder how many he decided upon.

    Nevertheless though, dubious maths or not, the message is on point.



  • @Siam @Catogrande he can just bloody say they're rare events then and not make up some bizarre mind worm for me to fixate on! He needs to cater to us dummies too.



  • @Bones said in Black Lives Matter:

    @Siam @Catogrande he can just bloody say they're rare events then and not make up some bizarre mind worm for me to fixate on! He needs to cater to us dummies too.

    He means you have a 1 in a billion chance of it happening TODAY. Which means that with 330 million people these 1 in a billion chances happen every 3 days.



  • @MajorRage yeah I think that's what I was struggling with when it was supposed to be 3 times a week. Thanks!



  • Pretty much 3 years ago.

    The question I'm pondering is whether any commitment to address those issues at that time would have lead to better outcomes than where the USA is now or whether it would make no difference:



  • As expected the movement does a little bit of a side-step and starts moving toward their new target



  • @Rembrandt said in Black Lives Matter:

    As expected the movement does a little bit of a side-step and starts moving toward their new target

    I'd expect them to move onto Kashmir & India's actions there shortly.



  • Damn, this dude laying it all out.



  • @No-Quarter said in Black Lives Matter:

    Damn, this dude laying it all out.

    Both realities can be true, and right now BLM are only looking at one side. And based on the tweets above they are getting further and further from the core message



  • @canefan absolutely, and racist attitudes are still prevalent. But he's talking about death specifically, which a lot of the over the top rhetoric from BLM has focussed on. The stats don't back up the BLM narrative at all.



  • @No-Quarter said in Black Lives Matter:

    @canefan absolutely, and racist attitudes are still prevalent. But he's talking about death specifically, which a lot of the over the top rhetoric from BLM has focussed on. The stats don't back up the BLM narrative at all.

    Which is a shame because these are real issues and they have a big opportunity right now. The NRA must be keeping very quiet right now



  • @canefan said in Black Lives Matter:

    @No-Quarter said in Black Lives Matter:

    @canefan absolutely, and racist attitudes are still prevalent. But he's talking about death specifically, which a lot of the over the top rhetoric from BLM has focussed on. The stats don't back up the BLM narrative at all.

    Which is a shame because these are real issues and they have a big opportunity right now. The NRA must be keeping very quiet right now

    I think you might find these deaths are in cities with the strictest gun laws



  • @Rembrandt said in Black Lives Matter:

    @canefan said in Black Lives Matter:

    @No-Quarter said in Black Lives Matter:

    @canefan absolutely, and racist attitudes are still prevalent. But he's talking about death specifically, which a lot of the over the top rhetoric from BLM has focussed on. The stats don't back up the BLM narrative at all.

    Which is a shame because these are real issues and they have a big opportunity right now. The NRA must be keeping very quiet right now

    I think you might find these deaths are in cities with the strictest gun laws

    Gun laws regarding sales? The far away impression I have is that it's pretty easy to get guns over the counter. I'm happy to be educated on this matter



  • @canefan Unfortunately a heck of a lot of folk in these riot cities are finding out that isn't the case at all. Coilon Noir was bought on to the Rogan podcast to talk about it as there's a big upsurge in people needing guns with the crime going on and the threat of police defunding.



  • @Rembrandt so this is what gunssss + mutual lack of trust between population and police adds up to



  • @Rembrandt He had some interesting points although he did also argue that he needs an AR-15 in case he gets attacked by a bear.



  • It's easy to see why Tucker is the most watched show in all of US prime time TV



  • @Rembrandt that way of thinking that endorses the State Attorney to move heaven and earth in a prosecution against the house owner's versus the idea that it was highly appropriate for the house owner's to act as they did, is going to be one hell of a collision.

    Man, that's a fundamental piece of US existence the left is gambling with there.

    Niall Ferguson observed that gun ownership predicts presidential elections far more accurately than polls

    Lots of guns being bought in America right now.



  • @Rembrandt said in Black Lives Matter:

    It's easy to see why Tucker is the most watched show in all of US prime time TV

    Fucking hell.

    Is it opposite day or something?

    And people like Jerry Taylor are the biggest c**ts of all.

    Saying they would do one thing in the hope that someone will do it for them.

    There's no fucking way he would have rushed the couple and bashed their brains in.

    It's all becoming very cultish, do as I say not do as I do.



  • @MiketheSnow said in Black Lives Matter:

    @Rembrandt said in Black Lives Matter:

    It's easy to see why Tucker is the most watched show in all of US prime time TV

    Fucking hell.

    Is it opposite day or something?

    And people like Jerry Taylor are the biggest c**ts of all.

    Saying they would do one thing in the hope that someone will do it for them.

    There's no fucking way he would have rushed the couple and bashed their brains in.

    It's all becoming very cultish, do as I say not do as I do.

    Sad to say this is becoming the norm. Everything seems based on reactionary responses. I see the incarnation of Trump, BoJo et al as something of a pushback against the identity politics we've been force fed for some time. I do worry about the potential backlash which is beginning to seem inevitable.



  • @Victor-Meldrew said in Black Lives Matter:

    @Rembrandt said in Black Lives Matter:

    As expected the movement does a little bit of a side-step and starts moving toward their new target

    I'd expect them to move onto Kashmir & India's actions there shortly.

    While actually have sympathy for the view of Israel's actions, it's really difficult to see what on earth black lives have to do with jews and arabs in the Middle East



  • @Rembrandt said in Black Lives Matter:

    It's easy to see why Tucker is the most watched show in all of US prime time TV



  • @Rembrandt I'm guessing you've already seen this one. Same theme



  • @MajorRage

    Obviously didn't check his black privilege....



  • @MajorRage fark that makes me despair. And want to stop calling everyone bro.



  • @MajorRage said in Black Lives Matter:

    @Rembrandt I'm guessing you've already seen this one. Same theme

    I'm waiting for the Candid Camera (or whatever the fuck it's called now) presenter to come out.



  • @MiketheSnow said in Black Lives Matter:

    It's all becoming very cultish, do as I say not do as I do.

    Indeed. With no though or critical reasoning allowed.

    It's very interesting to watch the reactions of cult members when actual logic and rational argument is deployed.



  • @MajorRage said in Black Lives Matter:

    @Rembrandt I'm guessing you've already seen this one. Same theme

    Yep, some doozy compilations of rich white blm protesters attacking black police doing the rounds too. This is from yesterday. Imagine if mainstream news actually reported what was going on rather than spin the bs 'pEAceFul PrOteTers' yarn.



  • @Victor-Meldrew said in Black Lives Matter:

    @MiketheSnow said in Black Lives Matter:

    It's all becoming very cultish, do as I say not do as I do.

    Indeed. With no though or critical reasoning allowed.

    It's very interesting to watch the reactions of cult members when actual logic and rational argument is deployed.

    Jesus.

    It boggles the mind.

    Those campaigning to defund the police should spend a couple of days, and more importantly nights, in low socio-economic neighbourhoods both BAME and predominantly white.

    They'd soon change their tune.



  • @MiketheSnow said in Black Lives Matter:

    Jesus.
    It boggles the mind.
    Those campaigning to defund the police should spend a couple of days, and more importantly nights, in low socio-economic neighbourhoods both BAME and predominantly white.
    They'd soon change their tune.

    I listened to the Tucker Carlson monologue @Rembrandt posted and noted the politicians in Minneapolis who voted to abolish the police also voted themselves private security paid for by Minneapolis taxpayers. Shocked I tell you, shocked.

    There were 150 or so black teenagers knifed to death in London in 2019 - mainly drug runners delivering to "respectable" London citizens. No BLM protests, no one gave a fuck when these kids bled to death in the street. No hypocrisy or false consciousness there then.

    I'm hugely in favour of serious action to open up opportunities for disadvantaged people (I'm involved in a very small way) as there's a huge waste of talent going on and if we harness it we'll all be richer and better off - and not just financially. But the antics we've seen in the last few weeks has probably put that cause back by years.



  • Its like the idea that twitter represents actual peoples view. Removing the police is a great idea for university graduates pumped up on the evil of Marxism, criminals intent on commiting more crime and the average useful idiot from money who doesn't bother researching crime statistics and instead follows headlines written by said Marxist university graduates.

    Real people in these areas are the ones who will suffer.



  • @Rembrandt Interviews like Ami's with genuinely privileged white people make me laugh and shake my head. It's astonishing how delusional people can be - " I feel safe, so there's no requirement for police and I assume everyone else feels the same", not realising the preconditions for that aura of public safety. And presuming to know the experience of others and speak for them.

    Now that's modern racism.



  • @antipodean said in Black Lives Matter:

    @Rembrandt Interviews like Ami's with genuinely privileged white people make me laugh and shake my head. It's astonishing how delusional people can be - " I feel safe, so there's no requirement for police and I assume everyone else feels the same", not realising the preconditions for that aura of public safety. And presuming to know the experience of others and speak for them.

    Now that's modern racism.

    And that's the cancer of social media. You get demonetised, demoted and banned for putting up an alternative point of view even if backed up with hard stats so these folk are often never exposed to the other side of a story.



  • @Rembrandt said in Black Lives Matter:

    You get demonetised, demoted and banned for putting up an alternative point of view even if backed up with hard stats

    Welcome to the fern.



  • Actually that is unfair - you don't get banned without some serious effort. I've tried for 20 years.



  • @Snowy said in Black Lives Matter:

    Actually that is unfair - you don't get banned without some serious effort. I've tried for 20 years.

    I’ve had a few suspensions but they should be fewer and further between now that Baron has gone


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