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@MajorRage said in British Politics:
they are reporting today a huge increase in hate-crimes ..
Bearing in mind using the wrong pronoun on twitter is a hate crime in the UK. I'm not surprised there's been an increase...
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@Crucial said in British Politics:
Being unbiased doesn't mean that everything has to be vanilla and unchallenging though.
Sadly, unbiased the BBC isn't and hasn't been for years.
“We need to foster peculiarity, idiosyncrasy, stubborn-mindedness, left-of-centre thinking.” Ben Stephenson Head of BBC Drama
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@Victor-Meldrew that’s a saying that has nothing to do with politics FFS
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@Crucial said in British Politics:
@Victor-Meldrew that’s a saying that has nothing to do with politics FFS
Triggered?Was he referring to camera angles maybe?
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@Siam said in British Politics:
TR exposed institutional bias on his panorama expose.
But if you didn't see it then you're not qualified to comment on that departure from the BBC charterWow! Watching one persons biased view about bias makes you qualified?
Why try and drag me into a totally different point to the one I was making?
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@Crucial because it dealt with the BBC charter. It showed transcripts from the BBC directives and it showed BBC executives in the doco.
You've just dismissed it without watching it so yes you must watch it to be able to comment on it in any meaningful way. That is you are informed and qualified to critique it.
But sure, write off something you've never seen. Good argument
Furthermore I didn't "drag" you into anything. I just posted on the fern. But sure, make it all about you and what you're not "qualified " to talk about
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@Siam said in British Politics:
@Crucial because it dealt with the BBC charter. It showed transcripts from the BBC directives and it showed BBC executives in the doco.
You've just dismissed it without watching it so yes you must watch it to be able to comment on it in any meaningful way. That is you are informed and qualified to critique it.
But sure, write off something you've never seen. Good argument
Big rant on an assumption.
Why do you think I haven’t watched it? Because I didn’t end up with the same view as you? Apparently it made you an expert and not me.Again, this has nothing to do with the discussion about the term used and what it means.
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@Crucial said in British Politics:
@Siam said in British Politics:
TR exposed institutional bias on his panorama expose.
But if you didn't see it then you're not qualified to comment on that departure from the BBC charterWow! Watching one persons biased view about bias makes you qualified?
Why try and drag me into a totally different point to the one I was making?
You said I dragged you into something yet I made no reference to you.
Typical of the left, no argument but their opinion and then attack and smear something you know nothing about.
Don't worry, or bother replying, I'm using " left of centre" in the artistic sense 😂
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@Siam said in British Politics:
@Crucial said in British Politics:
@Siam said in British Politics:
TR exposed institutional bias on his panorama expose.
But if you didn't see it then you're not qualified to comment on that departure from the BBC charterWow! Watching one persons biased view about bias makes you qualified?
Why try and drag me into a totally different point to the one I was making?
You said I dragged you into something yet I made no reference to you.
Typical of the left, no argument but their opinion and then attack and smear something you know nothing about.
Don't worry, or bother replying, I'm using " left of centre" in the artistic sense 😂
For starters you are calling me “the left” as if you think everyone’s political opinions are as narrow as your own seem to be. I am not “the left” and I am not “the right” (or is that just “right”, I find it hard to tell in the current climate).
Apparently I know nothing about something because I don’t concur with you which makes your opinion fact and mine an opinion.
What have I attacked and smeared? I made a comment about a post which I believed misinterpreted a quote and you came wading in telling me I wasn’t qualified to have an opinion.
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@Crucial said in British Politics:
@Siam said in British Politics:
@Crucial said in British Politics:
@Siam said in British Politics:
TR exposed institutional bias on his panorama expose.
But if you didn't see it then you're not qualified to comment on that departure from the BBC charterWow! Watching one persons biased view about bias makes you qualified?
Why try and drag me into a totally different point to the one I was making?
You said I dragged you into something yet I made no reference to you.
Typical of the left, no argument but their opinion and then attack and smear something you know nothing about.
Don't worry, or bother replying, I'm using " left of centre" in the artistic sense 😂
For starters you are calling me “the left” as if you think everyone’s political opinions are as narrow as your own seem to be. I am not “the left” and I am not “the right” (or is that just “right”, I find it hard to tell in the current climate).
Apparently I know nothing about something because I don’t concur with you which makes your opinion fact and mine an opinion.
What have I attacked and smeared? I made a comment about a post which I believed misinterpreted a quote and you came wading in telling me I wasn’t qualified to have an opinion.
Some people on here really don’t get the irony of the accusations they throw around.Bolded is a straw man argument and one which I clearly did not make.
well, given the discussion is on the political bias of the BBC, what content in the panorama expose did you disagree with?
Which pieces of unedited transcripts from BBC management did you find so unbiased?
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Leave BBC Drama aside then...
“In the BBC I joined 30 years ago, there was, in much of current affairs, in terms of people’s personal politics, which were quite vocal, a massive bias to the left. The organisation did struggle then with impartiality. And journalistically, staff were quite mystified by the early years of Thatcher.
“Now it is a completely different generation. ....... It is like the New Statesman, which used to be various shades of soft and hard left and is now more technocratic. We’re like that, too.
Mark Thompson - BBC Director General
https://www.newstatesman.com/uk-politics/2010/09/lecture-thompson-bbc-interview
Good to see the BBC moved a bit towards the left-wing New Statesman then...
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@Crucial said in British Politics:
@Siam said in British Politics:
@Crucial said in British Politics:
@Siam said in British Politics:
TR exposed institutional bias on his panorama expose.
But if you didn't see it then you're not qualified to comment on that departure from the BBC charterWow! Watching one persons biased view about bias makes you qualified?
Why try and drag me into a totally different point to the one I was making?
You said I dragged you into something yet I made no reference to you.
Typical of the left, no argument but their opinion and then attack and smear something you know nothing about.
Don't worry, or bother replying, I'm using " left of centre" in the artistic sense 😂
For starters you are calling me “the left” as if you think everyone’s political opinions are as narrow as your own seem to be. I am not “the left” and I am not “the right” (or is that just “right”, I find it hard to tell in the current climate).
Apparently I know nothing about something because I don’t concur with you which makes your opinion fact and mine an opinion.
What have I attacked and smeared? I made a comment about a post which I believed misinterpreted a quote and you came wading in telling me I wasn’t qualified to have an opinion.
Some people on here really don’t get the irony of the accusations they throw around.I would describe your views as quite extreme left. Just based on my perceptions of your views and who you defend.
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@Crucial said in British Politics:
It means innovative thinking. The origin of the term is probably from ‘liberal’ but refers to an artistic rather than political sense.
That quote is not supportive of the Beeb bias argument at all.Might need to walk that one back @Crucial . I have never heard “left of centre thinking “ referring to brain laterality. Only “left brained” or “right brained”. Even if you are right about the usage though, your explanation makes no sense because left brained laterality is supposed to indicate analytical and linear thought. It is right brain dominance that is associated with innovation, artistry and intuitiveness.
It is far more likely that what the Beeb guy said is what he actually meant. If he’d said right of centre thinking was needed, imagine the uproar.
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@JC I'll back @Crucial and @Bones on the meaning of "left of centre". That way is way read it.
FYI
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.urbandictionary.com/define.php%3Fterm=left%2Bof%2Bcentre&=trueI'll make no comment on the BBC's political leanings.
P.S. Am wondering if the interpretation of "left of centre" could evolve into a discussion about how easy kicks from the sideline are.
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@booboo said in British Politics:
@JC I'll back @Crucial and @Bones on the meaning of "left of centre". That way is way read it.
FYI
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.urbandictionary.com/define.php%3Fterm=left%2Bof%2Bcentre&=trueI'll make no comment on the BBC's political leanings.
P.S. Am wondering if the interpretation of "left of centre" could evolve into a discussion about how easy kicks from the sideline are.
Urban dictionary? Seriously?
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