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    • MN5
      MN5 last edited by MN5

      Went to the pub yesterday and caught some of the afternoon session with a mate on the big screen. The inevitable "how many of each team would make an Anzac team" came up and the team we came up with over a few brews was as follows.

      Latham ( neither nation has much depth in this position )
      Warner ( if fit, no brainer )
      KW ( of course )
      Smith
      Labuschagne ( this guys record is too good to ignore, only question is where he bats )
      Rossco ( batting out of position but the only way to shoehorn him in )
      BJ
      Cummins
      Starc
      Hazelwood
      Lyon

      All our pace bowlers are unlucky that the Aussie guys are just that little bit better. Could be a coin toss to see if Wagner gets in ahead of Starc. Boult and Southee, much as we love them, just aren't as good as Cummins and Hazelwood.

      Still too early to make a call on Jamieson but if he's still playing like he is a year from now then he walks in.

      Lyon has absolutely no competition from us in terms of another spinning option.

      The batting order has a few guys out of position so some shuffling may be required. Nicholls would be next cab off the rank there.

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      • Snowy
        Snowy @MN5 last edited by

        @MN5 Looks about right.

        Wags over Starc if played in NZ. Opposite if in Oz.

        Warner only gets in if a dickheads allowed policy.

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        • MN5
          MN5 @Snowy last edited by

          @Snowy said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:

          @MN5 Looks about right.

          Wags over Starc if played in NZ. Opposite if in Oz.

          Warner only gets in if a dickheads allowed policy.

          Both sides interestingly enough have a couple of young potential all rounders with huge potential in Jamieson and Green. Too early to drop a Batsman, put Watling at six and pick one of them though.

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          • Kiwiwomble
            Kiwiwomble @Snowy last edited by

            @Snowy beat me too it, Wags just adds some mongrel without seeming like a dick

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            • NTA
              NTA last edited by

              On firm you couldn't pick Starc, though he'd love swinging conditions in NZ

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              • MN5
                MN5 @NTA last edited by

                @NTA said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:

                On firm you couldn't pick Starc, though he'd love swinging conditions in NZ

                Starc and Wags is the toughest pick I reckon. Either way you’re gonna end up with a champion bowler

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                • nzzp
                  nzzp @MN5 last edited by

                  @MN5 said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:

                  @NTA said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:

                  On firm you couldn't pick Starc, though he'd love swinging conditions in NZ

                  Starc and Wags is the toughest pick I reckon. Either way you’re gonna end up with a champion bowler

                  Starc pushed it through at 148 the other day. Now that's some third goddamn seamer 🙂

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                  • Snowy
                    Snowy last edited by

                    Wags ranked 3rd, Starc 8th but has a better average. He also gets more use of a newer ball.

                    Southee 4th is interesting if you pay any attention to these things.

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                    • Donsteppa
                      Donsteppa last edited by

                      Wags ahead of Starc. Starc drifts in and out of the game relatively more, especially against the top order. Wags is more consistent.

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                      • Hooroo
                        Hooroo last edited by

                        Right now! RIGHT NOW based on how we have performed and only using data and eyes from the last series, Jamieson makes it easy. Anywhere! Aussie, NZ, Underwater or on the moon.

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                        • Donsteppa
                          Donsteppa @Hooroo last edited by Donsteppa

                          @Hooroo said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:

                          Right now! RIGHT NOW based on how we have performed and only using data and eyes from the last series, Jamieson makes it easy. Anywhere! Aussie, NZ, Underwater or on the moon.

                          Yep, if we adopted the Aussie approach of an all-rounder at 6 and the keeper at 7, Jamieson nudges Taylor out.

                          Taylor is moving into the twilight of his international career on current form, but I'd then probably put him ahead of Loosebuschange - solely on the grounds that he's much less annoying at the crease.

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                          • Snowy
                            Snowy @Hooroo last edited by

                            @Hooroo said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:

                            Right now! RIGHT NOW based on how we have performed and only using data and eyes from the last series, Jamieson makes it easy. Anywhere! Aussie, NZ, Underwater or on the moon.

                            Very hard to argue with that.

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                            • Snowy
                              Snowy @Donsteppa last edited by

                              @Donsteppa said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:

                              solely on the grounds that he's much less annoying at the crease.

                              So no Aussies at all then?

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                              • Donsteppa
                                Donsteppa @Snowy last edited by

                                @Snowy said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:

                                @Donsteppa said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:

                                solely on the grounds that he's much less annoying at the crease.

                                So no Aussies at all then?

                                Yelling "NO RUN!!!!" when the ball has gone through to the keeper is in a class of its own.

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                                • ACT Crusader
                                  ACT Crusader last edited by

                                  Not the “best ever”, but players I have seen play live and that I like or too good to leave out (eg Warne and Gilchrist)

                                  Wright
                                  Boon
                                  Ponting
                                  Williamson
                                  M. Crowe
                                  S. Waugh
                                  Gilchrist
                                  Hadlee
                                  Lillee
                                  Warne
                                  Bond

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                                  • Hooroo
                                    Hooroo @Donsteppa last edited by

                                    @Donsteppa said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:

                                    @Hooroo said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:

                                    Right now! RIGHT NOW based on how we have performed and only using data and eyes from the last series, Jamieson makes it easy. Anywhere! Aussie, NZ, Underwater or on the moon.

                                    Yep, if we adopted the Aussie approach of an all-rounder at 6 and the keeper at 7, Jamieson nudges Taylor out.

                                    Taylor is moving into the twilight of his international career on current form, but I'd then probably put him ahead of Loosebuschange - solely on the grounds that he's much less annoying at the crease.

                                    If I want to win the test, Taylor carries drinks.

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                                    • KiwiMurph
                                      KiwiMurph @Snowy last edited by

                                      @Snowy said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:

                                      Wags ranked 3rd, Starc 8th but has a better average. He also gets more use of a newer ball.

                                      Southee 4th is interesting if you pay any attention to these things.

                                      Wags has a better average than Starc

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                                        Gunner @Hooroo last edited by

                                        @Hooroo said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:

                                        Right now! RIGHT NOW based on how we have performed and only using data and eyes from the last series, Jamieson makes it easy. Anywhere! Aussie, NZ, Underwater or on the moon.

                                        Does depend if selection criteria is form or career based.

                                        On form he's a shoe in ,and Starc is not.

                                        Everyone is quick to dismiss our bowlers, but Southee and Wagner more so than Boult have been in some red hot form over the last 12-24 months.

                                        Someone with more skills than me should pull out the records for both BC's and OZ bowlers over the past 2 years...

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                                        • barbarian
                                          barbarian @Gunner last edited by

                                          @Gunner said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:

                                          @Hooroo said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:

                                          Everyone is quick to dismiss our bowlers, but Southee and Wagner more so than Boult have been in some red hot form over the last 12-24 months.

                                          Someone with more skills than me should pull out the records for both BC's and OZ bowlers over the past 2 years...

                                          Yeah, I think we really need to strongly favour form over the past, say, 12-18 months. So with that in mind it's pretty clear:

                                          Harris
                                          Warner
                                          Labushagne
                                          Smith
                                          Wade
                                          Williamson (just scrapes in ahead of Travis Head)
                                          Paine
                                          Cummins
                                          Starc
                                          Lyon
                                          Hazlewood

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                                          • Snowy
                                            Snowy @KiwiMurph last edited by

                                            @KiwiMurph said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:

                                            @Snowy said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:

                                            Wags ranked 3rd, Starc 8th but has a better average. He also gets more use of a newer ball.

                                            Southee 4th is interesting if you pay any attention to these things.

                                            Wags has a better average than Starc

                                            So he does. I had the 26 and and 27 around the wrong way. Not much in it though and I would have Wags in my team.

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                                            • Donsteppa
                                              Donsteppa @barbarian last edited by

                                              @barbarian said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:

                                              @Gunner said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:

                                              @Hooroo said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:

                                              Everyone is quick to dismiss our bowlers, but Southee and Wagner more so than Boult have been in some red hot form over the last 12-24 months.

                                              Someone with more skills than me should pull out the records for both BC's and OZ bowlers over the past 2 years...

                                              Yeah, I think we really need to strongly favour form over the past, say, 12-18 months. So with that in mind it's pretty clear:

                                              Harris
                                              Warner
                                              Labushagne
                                              Smith
                                              Wade
                                              Williamson (just scrapes in ahead of Travis Head)
                                              Paine
                                              Cummins
                                              Starc
                                              Lyon
                                              Hazlewood

                                              When does Super Rugby start?

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                                              • Snowy
                                                Snowy @barbarian last edited by

                                                @barbarian Very funny.

                                                If you guys would condescend and actually come and visit us for a test series that might look a little different. Last time was 2015?

                                                You are also using @ACT-Crusader 's selection policy. Nice that the world number one batsman snuck in though.

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                                                • MN5
                                                  MN5 @barbarian last edited by

                                                  @barbarian said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:

                                                  @Gunner said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:

                                                  @Hooroo said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:

                                                  Everyone is quick to dismiss our bowlers, but Southee and Wagner more so than Boult have been in some red hot form over the last 12-24 months.

                                                  Someone with more skills than me should pull out the records for both BC's and OZ bowlers over the past 2 years...

                                                  Yeah, I think we really need to strongly favour form over the past, say, 12-18 months. So with that in mind it's pretty clear:

                                                  Harris
                                                  Warner
                                                  Labushagne
                                                  Smith
                                                  Wade
                                                  Williamson (just scrapes in ahead of Travis Head)
                                                  Paine
                                                  Cummins
                                                  Starc
                                                  Lyon
                                                  Hazlewood

                                                  Woohoo ! We get KW as a token selection !!!

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                                                  • G
                                                    Gunner @MN5 last edited by Gunner

                                                    @MN5 said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:

                                                    @barbarian said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:

                                                    @Gunner said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:

                                                    @Hooroo said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:

                                                    Everyone is quick to dismiss our bowlers, but Southee and Wagner more so than Boult have been in some red hot form over the last 12-24 months.

                                                    Someone with more skills than me should pull out the records for both BC's and OZ bowlers over the past 2 years...

                                                    Yeah, I think we really need to strongly favour form over the past, say, 12-18 months. So with that in mind it's pretty clear:

                                                    Harris
                                                    Warner
                                                    Labushagne
                                                    Smith
                                                    Wade
                                                    Williamson (just scrapes in ahead of Travis Head)
                                                    Paine
                                                    Cummins
                                                    Starc
                                                    Lyon
                                                    Hazlewood

                                                    Woohoo ! We get KW as a token selection !!!

                                                    We should be greatful as it's more than we'd get in a New Zealand/India joint team

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                                                    • barbarian
                                                      barbarian @Snowy last edited by

                                                      @Snowy said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:

                                                      @barbarian Very funny.

                                                      If you guys would condescend and actually come and visit us for a test series that might look a little different. Last time was 2015?

                                                      You are also using @ACT-Crusader 's selection policy. Nice that the world number one batsman snuck in though.

                                                      Yeah I'm genuinely bummed we don't go and play tests over there. Test scheduling is so stupid. We go over there next month for ODIs and T20s. If our South African series gets canned, surely we can throw in a few tests as well?!?!?

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                                                      • Snowy
                                                        Snowy @barbarian last edited by Snowy

                                                        @barbarian said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:

                                                        If our South African series gets canned, surely we can throw in a few tests as well?!?!?

                                                        That would be cool. Tests in March in NZ are dodgy weather wise, and we have Bangladesh visiting I think. Not even for tests. Sigh.

                                                        Isn't it all T20s now v Aus? Not even ODIs. Sigh again.

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                                                        • Hooroo
                                                          Hooroo @Snowy last edited by

                                                          @Snowy said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:

                                                          @barbarian said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:

                                                          If our South African series gets canned, surely we can throw in a few tests as well?!?!?

                                                          That would be cool. Tests in March in NZ are dodgy weather wise, and we have Bangladesh visiting I think. Not even for tests. Sigh.

                                                          Isn't it all T20s now v Aus? Not even ODIs. Sigh again.

                                                          I think there is ODI as well

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                                                          • Hooroo
                                                            Hooroo @Hooroo last edited by

                                                            @Hooroo said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:

                                                            @Snowy said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:

                                                            @barbarian said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:

                                                            If our South African series gets canned, surely we can throw in a few tests as well?!?!?

                                                            That would be cool. Tests in March in NZ are dodgy weather wise, and we have Bangladesh visiting I think. Not even for tests. Sigh.

                                                            Isn't it all T20s now v Aus? Not even ODIs. Sigh again.

                                                            I think there is ODI as well

                                                            Nope! @Snowy you're right! That suuuuuuuuuucks!

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                                                            • Snowy
                                                              Snowy @Hooroo last edited by

                                                              @Hooroo said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:

                                                              @Hooroo said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:

                                                              @Snowy said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:

                                                              @barbarian said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:

                                                              If our South African series gets canned, surely we can throw in a few tests as well?!?!?

                                                              That would be cool. Tests in March in NZ are dodgy weather wise, and we have Bangladesh visiting I think. Not even for tests. Sigh.

                                                              Isn't it all T20s now v Aus? Not even ODIs. Sigh again.

                                                              I think there is ODI as well

                                                              Nope! @Snowy you're right! That suuuuuuuuuucks!

                                                              Yes it does.
                                                              Must have been originally scheduled which is why we all thought so.

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                                                              • Hooroo
                                                                Hooroo @Snowy last edited by

                                                                @Snowy said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:

                                                                @Hooroo said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:

                                                                @Hooroo said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:

                                                                @Snowy said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:

                                                                @barbarian said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:

                                                                If our South African series gets canned, surely we can throw in a few tests as well?!?!?

                                                                That would be cool. Tests in March in NZ are dodgy weather wise, and we have Bangladesh visiting I think. Not even for tests. Sigh.

                                                                Isn't it all T20s now v Aus? Not even ODIs. Sigh again.

                                                                I think there is ODI as well

                                                                Nope! @Snowy you're right! That suuuuuuuuuucks!

                                                                Yes it does.
                                                                Must have been originally scheduled which is why we all thought so.

                                                                Must be due to Aussie touring SA at same time?

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                                                                • Snowy
                                                                  Snowy @Hooroo last edited by

                                                                  @Hooroo said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:

                                                                  @Snowy said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:

                                                                  @Hooroo said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:

                                                                  @Hooroo said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:

                                                                  @Snowy said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:

                                                                  @barbarian said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:

                                                                  If our South African series gets canned, surely we can throw in a few tests as well?!?!?

                                                                  That would be cool. Tests in March in NZ are dodgy weather wise, and we have Bangladesh visiting I think. Not even for tests. Sigh.

                                                                  Isn't it all T20s now v Aus? Not even ODIs. Sigh again.

                                                                  I think there is ODI as well

                                                                  Nope! @Snowy you're right! That suuuuuuuuuucks!

                                                                  Yes it does.
                                                                  Must have been originally scheduled which is why we all thought so.

                                                                  Must be due to Aussie touring SA at same time?

                                                                  Yeah a lot of things got changed / moved due covid.

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                                                                  • rotated
                                                                    rotated last edited by rotated

                                                                    What possible match/pitch conditions would you need to have throw the ball to Lyon over Wagner?

                                                                    It would need to be a fifth day pitch and turning square in which case I'd rather have Smith and Williamson bowling at either end.

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                                                                    • Chris B.
                                                                      Chris B. @Snowy last edited by

                                                                      @Snowy said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:

                                                                      @barbarian Very funny.

                                                                      If you guys would condescend and actually come and visit us for a test series that might look a little different. Last time was 2015?

                                                                      You are also using @ACT-Crusader 's selection policy. Nice that the world number one batsman snuck in though.

                                                                      Shouldn't Kane be listed as T-ND?

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                                                                      • ACT Crusader
                                                                        ACT Crusader @Snowy last edited by

                                                                        @Snowy said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:

                                                                        @barbarian Very funny.

                                                                        If you guys would condescend and actually come and visit us for a test series that might look a little different. Last time was 2015?

                                                                        You are also using @ACT-Crusader 's selection policy. Nice that the world number one batsman snuck in though.

                                                                        It’s a tried and true policy.

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