ANZAC Test Cricket XI
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Went to the pub yesterday and caught some of the afternoon session with a mate on the big screen. The inevitable "how many of each team would make an Anzac team" came up and the team we came up with over a few brews was as follows.
Latham ( neither nation has much depth in this position )
Warner ( if fit, no brainer )
KW ( of course )
Smith
Labuschagne ( this guys record is too good to ignore, only question is where he bats )
Rossco ( batting out of position but the only way to shoehorn him in )
BJ
Cummins
Starc
Hazelwood
LyonAll our pace bowlers are unlucky that the Aussie guys are just that little bit better. Could be a coin toss to see if Wagner gets in ahead of Starc. Boult and Southee, much as we love them, just aren't as good as Cummins and Hazelwood.
Still too early to make a call on Jamieson but if he's still playing like he is a year from now then he walks in.
Lyon has absolutely no competition from us in terms of another spinning option.
The batting order has a few guys out of position so some shuffling may be required. Nicholls would be next cab off the rank there.
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@MN5 Looks about right.
Wags over Starc if played in NZ. Opposite if in Oz.
Warner only gets in if a dickheads allowed policy.
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@Snowy said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:
@MN5 Looks about right.
Wags over Starc if played in NZ. Opposite if in Oz.
Warner only gets in if a dickheads allowed policy.
Both sides interestingly enough have a couple of young potential all rounders with huge potential in Jamieson and Green. Too early to drop a Batsman, put Watling at six and pick one of them though.
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@Snowy beat me too it, Wags just adds some mongrel without seeming like a dick
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On firm you couldn't pick Starc, though he'd love swinging conditions in NZ
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@NTA said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:
On firm you couldn't pick Starc, though he'd love swinging conditions in NZ
Starc and Wags is the toughest pick I reckon. Either way you’re gonna end up with a champion bowler
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@MN5 said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:
@NTA said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:
On firm you couldn't pick Starc, though he'd love swinging conditions in NZ
Starc and Wags is the toughest pick I reckon. Either way you’re gonna end up with a champion bowler
Starc pushed it through at 148 the other day. Now that's some third goddamn seamer
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Wags ranked 3rd, Starc 8th but has a better average. He also gets more use of a newer ball.
Southee 4th is interesting if you pay any attention to these things.
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Wags ahead of Starc. Starc drifts in and out of the game relatively more, especially against the top order. Wags is more consistent.
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Right now! RIGHT NOW based on how we have performed and only using data and eyes from the last series, Jamieson makes it easy. Anywhere! Aussie, NZ, Underwater or on the moon.
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@Hooroo said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:
Right now! RIGHT NOW based on how we have performed and only using data and eyes from the last series, Jamieson makes it easy. Anywhere! Aussie, NZ, Underwater or on the moon.
Yep, if we adopted the Aussie approach of an all-rounder at 6 and the keeper at 7, Jamieson nudges Taylor out.
Taylor is moving into the twilight of his international career on current form, but I'd then probably put him ahead of Loosebuschange - solely on the grounds that he's much less annoying at the crease.
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@Hooroo said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:
Right now! RIGHT NOW based on how we have performed and only using data and eyes from the last series, Jamieson makes it easy. Anywhere! Aussie, NZ, Underwater or on the moon.
Very hard to argue with that.
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@Donsteppa said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:
solely on the grounds that he's much less annoying at the crease.
So no Aussies at all then?
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@Snowy said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:
@Donsteppa said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:
solely on the grounds that he's much less annoying at the crease.
So no Aussies at all then?
Yelling "NO RUN!!!!" when the ball has gone through to the keeper is in a class of its own.
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Not the “best ever”, but players I have seen play live and that I like or too good to leave out (eg Warne and Gilchrist)
Wright
Boon
Ponting
Williamson
M. Crowe
S. Waugh
Gilchrist
Hadlee
Lillee
Warne
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@Donsteppa said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:
@Hooroo said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:
Right now! RIGHT NOW based on how we have performed and only using data and eyes from the last series, Jamieson makes it easy. Anywhere! Aussie, NZ, Underwater or on the moon.
Yep, if we adopted the Aussie approach of an all-rounder at 6 and the keeper at 7, Jamieson nudges Taylor out.
Taylor is moving into the twilight of his international career on current form, but I'd then probably put him ahead of Loosebuschange - solely on the grounds that he's much less annoying at the crease.
If I want to win the test, Taylor carries drinks.
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@Snowy said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:
Wags ranked 3rd, Starc 8th but has a better average. He also gets more use of a newer ball.
Southee 4th is interesting if you pay any attention to these things.
Wags has a better average than Starc
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@Hooroo said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:
Right now! RIGHT NOW based on how we have performed and only using data and eyes from the last series, Jamieson makes it easy. Anywhere! Aussie, NZ, Underwater or on the moon.
Does depend if selection criteria is form or career based.
On form he's a shoe in ,and Starc is not.
Everyone is quick to dismiss our bowlers, but Southee and Wagner more so than Boult have been in some red hot form over the last 12-24 months.
Someone with more skills than me should pull out the records for both BC's and OZ bowlers over the past 2 years...
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@Gunner said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:
@Hooroo said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:
Everyone is quick to dismiss our bowlers, but Southee and Wagner more so than Boult have been in some red hot form over the last 12-24 months.
Someone with more skills than me should pull out the records for both BC's and OZ bowlers over the past 2 years...
Yeah, I think we really need to strongly favour form over the past, say, 12-18 months. So with that in mind it's pretty clear:
Harris
Warner
Labushagne
Smith
Wade
Williamson (just scrapes in ahead of Travis Head)
Paine
Cummins
Starc
Lyon
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@KiwiMurph said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:
@Snowy said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:
Wags ranked 3rd, Starc 8th but has a better average. He also gets more use of a newer ball.
Southee 4th is interesting if you pay any attention to these things.
Wags has a better average than Starc
So he does. I had the 26 and and 27 around the wrong way. Not much in it though and I would have Wags in my team.
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@barbarian said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:
@Gunner said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:
@Hooroo said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:
Everyone is quick to dismiss our bowlers, but Southee and Wagner more so than Boult have been in some red hot form over the last 12-24 months.
Someone with more skills than me should pull out the records for both BC's and OZ bowlers over the past 2 years...
Yeah, I think we really need to strongly favour form over the past, say, 12-18 months. So with that in mind it's pretty clear:
Harris
Warner
Labushagne
Smith
Wade
Williamson (just scrapes in ahead of Travis Head)
Paine
Cummins
Starc
Lyon
HazlewoodWhen does Super Rugby start?
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@barbarian Very funny.
If you guys would condescend and actually come and visit us for a test series that might look a little different. Last time was 2015?
You are also using @ACT-Crusader 's selection policy. Nice that the world number one batsman snuck in though.
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@barbarian said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:
@Gunner said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:
@Hooroo said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:
Everyone is quick to dismiss our bowlers, but Southee and Wagner more so than Boult have been in some red hot form over the last 12-24 months.
Someone with more skills than me should pull out the records for both BC's and OZ bowlers over the past 2 years...
Yeah, I think we really need to strongly favour form over the past, say, 12-18 months. So with that in mind it's pretty clear:
Harris
Warner
Labushagne
Smith
Wade
Williamson (just scrapes in ahead of Travis Head)
Paine
Cummins
Starc
Lyon
HazlewoodWoohoo ! We get KW as a token selection !!!
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@MN5 said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:
@barbarian said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:
@Gunner said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:
@Hooroo said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:
Everyone is quick to dismiss our bowlers, but Southee and Wagner more so than Boult have been in some red hot form over the last 12-24 months.
Someone with more skills than me should pull out the records for both BC's and OZ bowlers over the past 2 years...
Yeah, I think we really need to strongly favour form over the past, say, 12-18 months. So with that in mind it's pretty clear:
Harris
Warner
Labushagne
Smith
Wade
Williamson (just scrapes in ahead of Travis Head)
Paine
Cummins
Starc
Lyon
HazlewoodWoohoo ! We get KW as a token selection !!!
We should be greatful as it's more than we'd get in a New Zealand/India joint team
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@Snowy said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:
@barbarian Very funny.
If you guys would condescend and actually come and visit us for a test series that might look a little different. Last time was 2015?
You are also using @ACT-Crusader 's selection policy. Nice that the world number one batsman snuck in though.
Yeah I'm genuinely bummed we don't go and play tests over there. Test scheduling is so stupid. We go over there next month for ODIs and T20s. If our South African series gets canned, surely we can throw in a few tests as well?!?!?
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@barbarian said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:
If our South African series gets canned, surely we can throw in a few tests as well?!?!?
That would be cool. Tests in March in NZ are dodgy weather wise, and we have Bangladesh visiting I think. Not even for tests. Sigh.
Isn't it all T20s now v Aus? Not even ODIs. Sigh again.
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@Snowy said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:
@barbarian said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:
If our South African series gets canned, surely we can throw in a few tests as well?!?!?
That would be cool. Tests in March in NZ are dodgy weather wise, and we have Bangladesh visiting I think. Not even for tests. Sigh.
Isn't it all T20s now v Aus? Not even ODIs. Sigh again.
I think there is ODI as well
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@Hooroo said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:
@Snowy said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:
@barbarian said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:
If our South African series gets canned, surely we can throw in a few tests as well?!?!?
That would be cool. Tests in March in NZ are dodgy weather wise, and we have Bangladesh visiting I think. Not even for tests. Sigh.
Isn't it all T20s now v Aus? Not even ODIs. Sigh again.
I think there is ODI as well
Nope! @Snowy you're right! That suuuuuuuuuucks!
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@Hooroo said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:
@Hooroo said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:
@Snowy said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:
@barbarian said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:
If our South African series gets canned, surely we can throw in a few tests as well?!?!?
That would be cool. Tests in March in NZ are dodgy weather wise, and we have Bangladesh visiting I think. Not even for tests. Sigh.
Isn't it all T20s now v Aus? Not even ODIs. Sigh again.
I think there is ODI as well
Nope! @Snowy you're right! That suuuuuuuuuucks!
Yes it does.
Must have been originally scheduled which is why we all thought so. -
@Snowy said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:
@Hooroo said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:
@Hooroo said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:
@Snowy said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:
@barbarian said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:
If our South African series gets canned, surely we can throw in a few tests as well?!?!?
That would be cool. Tests in March in NZ are dodgy weather wise, and we have Bangladesh visiting I think. Not even for tests. Sigh.
Isn't it all T20s now v Aus? Not even ODIs. Sigh again.
I think there is ODI as well
Nope! @Snowy you're right! That suuuuuuuuuucks!
Yes it does.
Must have been originally scheduled which is why we all thought so.Must be due to Aussie touring SA at same time?
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@Hooroo said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:
@Snowy said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:
@Hooroo said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:
@Hooroo said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:
@Snowy said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:
@barbarian said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:
If our South African series gets canned, surely we can throw in a few tests as well?!?!?
That would be cool. Tests in March in NZ are dodgy weather wise, and we have Bangladesh visiting I think. Not even for tests. Sigh.
Isn't it all T20s now v Aus? Not even ODIs. Sigh again.
I think there is ODI as well
Nope! @Snowy you're right! That suuuuuuuuuucks!
Yes it does.
Must have been originally scheduled which is why we all thought so.Must be due to Aussie touring SA at same time?
Yeah a lot of things got changed / moved due covid.
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What possible match/pitch conditions would you need to have throw the ball to Lyon over Wagner?
It would need to be a fifth day pitch and turning square in which case I'd rather have Smith and Williamson bowling at either end.
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@Snowy said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:
@barbarian Very funny.
If you guys would condescend and actually come and visit us for a test series that might look a little different. Last time was 2015?
You are also using @ACT-Crusader 's selection policy. Nice that the world number one batsman snuck in though.
Shouldn't Kane be listed as T-ND?
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@Snowy said in ANZAC Test Cricket XI:
@barbarian Very funny.
If you guys would condescend and actually come and visit us for a test series that might look a little different. Last time was 2015?
You are also using @ACT-Crusader 's selection policy. Nice that the world number one batsman snuck in though.
It’s a tried and true policy.
