F off with the damn PC Brigade
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Feel free to remove if there is already a thread for this, or if some delicate little petal reading this is going to be offended, or offended on someone else's behalf.
I am so over all of this PC shit!!! People need to get a sense of humour and grow a pair. If you don't like something, don't do it, look at it, go there etc etc, instead of running to social media and trying to cause a shitstorm.
For what it's worth I think this is very clever from the pub owner.
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@gunner might be Jervois in QTN that has the urinal art referenced.
I see both sides, but I must say if this makes anyone feel objectified, they probably have bigger issues.
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@gunner said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
Feel free to remove if there is already a thread for this, or if some delicate little petal reading this is going to be offended, or offended on someone else's behalf.
I am so over all of this PC shit!!! People need to get a sense of humour and grow a pair. If you don't like something, don't do it, look at it, go there etc etc, instead of running to social media and trying to cause a shitstorm.
For what it's worth I think this is very clever from the pub owner.
says the person jumping on social media to complain about something
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@kiwiwomble said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
@gunner said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
Feel free to remove if there is already a thread for this, or if some delicate little petal reading this is going to be offended, or offended on someone else's behalf.
I am so over all of this PC shit!!! People need to get a sense of humour and grow a pair. If you don't like something, don't do it, look at it, go there etc etc, instead of running to social media and trying to cause a shitstorm.
For what it's worth I think this is very clever from the pub owner.
says the person jumping on social media to complain about something
It's 2021 and this is the Fern
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I reckon that is brilliant!
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I’d imagine any bloke who genuinely found this offensive would be the kind to sit down to piss in a cubicle and not see it anyway so it’s a bit of a non event really.
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I don’t think that “offensive “ is necessarily the point here.
Entrenching or continuing tropes is more the disappointing thing. It’s only at the levels of advertising that makes out that men are incompetent idiots around the house or should aspire to being “blokes” though.
I do think that there is a little validity in pointing out possible links with male on female violence. Not a strong connection but enough that it could enforce a thinking that already exists in someone -
@crucial said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
I don’t think that “offensive “ is necessarily the point here.
Entrenching or continuing tropes is more the disappointing thing. It’s only at the levels of advertising that makes out that men are incompetent idiots around the house or should aspire to being “blokes” though.
I do think that there is a little validity in pointing out possible links with male on female violence. Not a strong connection but enough that it could enforce a thinking that already exists in someoneI’m off to NP in a couple of weeks for work. I’ll go to that pub for a feed, beer and a piss and if the images inspire me to go home and beat up the potential future Mrs MN5 I’ll let the fern know.
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@kiwiwomble said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
@gunner said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
Feel free to remove if there is already a thread for this, or if some delicate little petal reading this is going to be offended, or offended on someone else's behalf.
I am so over all of this PC shit!!! People need to get a sense of humour and grow a pair. If you don't like something, don't do it, look at it, go there etc etc, instead of running to social media and trying to cause a shitstorm.
For what it's worth I think this is very clever from the pub owner.
says the person jumping on social media to complain about something
I want to complain about you calling me out for complaining about people complaining about stuff they shouldn't be complaining about
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i am far too old to worry about what someone thinks about the size of my cock.
But if i can be serious for a moment:
This kind of thing above the pisser is really old, and done all over the place. I am not suprised however that it has only just turned up in Taranaki
I think it is an incredibly long bow to draw to suggest this is the kind of thing that will send a dude home to knock around the missus. Guys who do that are fucking assholes set off by all manner of shit, i very much doubt this alone is enough. If we are to eliminate everything that might trigger violence in a fucking asshole, the rest of us aren't going to be left with much.
How many fucking organisations for very specific shit are there now? I feel like there is always another spokesperson from another organisation no matter what "controversy" the media can drum up off a tweet.
The original complaint has some merit in the fact that you would never get away with this if you reversed the gender. Unfortunately the response of "yeah, ban everything" is probably the opposite of the point they were trying to tediously make. Stupid jokes about dick sizes should be allowed. Stupid jokes about boobs and asses should be allowed too. Relish your objectification.As a privileged, white, straight, cisgendered male, i realise i am the enemy (that's fucking tongue in cheek, don't @ me) but the utopia these people who react to this shit want seems like a really fucking dull existence.
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@mariner4life said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
i am far too old to worry about what someone thinks about the size of my cock.
But if i can be serious for a moment:
This kind of thing above the pisser is really old, and done all over the place. I am not suprised however that it has only just turned up in Taranaki
I think it is an incredibly long bow to draw to suggest this is the kind of thing that will send a dude home to knock around the missus. Guys who do that are fucking assholes set off by all manner of shit, i very much doubt this alone is enough. If we are to eliminate everything that might trigger violence in a fucking asshole, the rest of us aren't going to be left with much.
How many fucking organisations for very specific shit are there now? I feel like there is always another spokesperson from another organisation no matter what "controversy" the media can drum up off a tweet.
The original complaint has some merit in the fact that you would never get away with this if you reversed the gender. Unfortunately the response of "yeah, ban everything" is probably the opposite of the point they were trying to tediously make. Stupid jokes about dick sizes should be allowed. Stupid jokes about boobs and asses should be allowed too. Relish your objectification.As a privileged, white, straight, cisgendered male, i realise i am the enemy (that's fucking tongue in cheek, don't @ me) but the utopia these people who react to this shit want seems like a really fucking dull existence.
Possibly your most sensible post ever.
Cancel Culture can well and truly absolutely get fucked.
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@mariner4life said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
if i can be serious for a moment
Well I guess there's a first time for everything in these strange times we live in
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@kiwiwomble said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
@gunner said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
Feel free to remove if there is already a thread for this, or if some delicate little petal reading this is going to be offended, or offended on someone else's behalf.
I am so over all of this PC shit!!! People need to get a sense of humour and grow a pair. If you don't like something, don't do it, look at it, go there etc etc, instead of running to social media and trying to cause a shitstorm.
For what it's worth I think this is very clever from the pub owner.
says the person jumping on social media to complain about something
Definitely see your point and it’s not what you are saying, but there seems to be this weird counterargument that those “triggered” by this type of lunacy are somehow just as bad. When you have what is most often a tiny minority trying to force their views onto others I don’t think it’s surprising that some people will be very pissed off.
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@rancid-schnitzel as you say it was a joke but you have made me think
why is it ok for some people to be annoyed and complain about something like this but its not ok for others to be annoyed and complaining about something else that annoys them? does the "don't read it, look at it, dont go there etc etc" not apply to everyone?
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@rancid-schnitzel said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
@kiwiwomble said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
@gunner said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
Feel free to remove if there is already a thread for this, or if some delicate little petal reading this is going to be offended, or offended on someone else's behalf.
I am so over all of this PC shit!!! People need to get a sense of humour and grow a pair. If you don't like something, don't do it, look at it, go there etc etc, instead of running to social media and trying to cause a shitstorm.
For what it's worth I think this is very clever from the pub owner.
says the person jumping on social media to complain about something
Definitely see your point and it’s not what you are saying, but there seems to be this weird counterargument that those “triggered” by this type of lunacy are somehow just as bad. When you have what is most often a tiny minority trying to force their views onto others I don’t think it’s surprising that some people will be very pissed off.
Indeed. Some she/he/it LGBT pronoun gets called out on their bullshit and they gleefully proclaim they have “triggered” a racist/fascist/sexist/bigot by getting them to respond.
Makes me think of this.....
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@kiwiwomble said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
@rancid-schnitzel as you say it was a joke but you have made me think
why is it ok for some people to be annoyed and complain about something like this but its not ok for others to be annoyed and complaining about something else that annoys them? does the "don't read it, look at it, dont go there etc etc" not apply to everyone?
It’s not about having an opinion but rather forcing that opinion down other people’s throats. And what if the “don’t read it, don’t look at it etc.” option isn’t available?
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@rancid-schnitzel i guess in this particular case it was a choice to click on the article , if anything it wold seem that is easier to avoid than, if you were in the bar and having to go to the toilet, as we all do, and coming across something offensive (to them)
On paper, clicking on articles which we can tell are going to rile us is very similar to those that go about choosing to get offended about everything
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Calling out the ‘politically correct, do-gooding, let’s find something to be offended about today movement’ doesn’t even come close to being the same as actually being part of that movement.
The crap is so wide spread it’s hard to avoid, and then you add in the fact that the bloody media feed these knob jockeys, whipping them up into frenzies.
On the whole I don’t click into such articles, but again, the outrageous click bait headlines are unavoidable if you’re on any media websites or social media platforms.Bugger the PC brigade 🖕🏽
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@kiwiwomble said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
@rancid-schnitzel i guess in this particular case it was a choice to click on the article , if anything it wold seem that is easier to avoid than, if you were in the bar and having to go to the toilet, as we all do, and coming across something offensive (to them)
On paper, clicking on articles which we can tell are going to rile us is very similar to those that go about choosing to get offended about everything
I’m not talking about articles. An in any case, what is worse: a tiny minority actively petitioning to have something banned or cancelled or people getting pissed off about that?
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@rancid-schnitzel i mean, the article is what started this, @Gunner has seen an article about something that has annoyed him so much hes come on here to spread the news and complain
if im honest i actually dont see too much difference now youve pointed it out, just people complaining about and making a big deal about stuff they could have ignored
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@kiwiwomble said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
@rancid-schnitzel i mean, the article is what started this, @Gunner has seen an article about something that has annoyed him so much hes come on here to spread the news and complain
if im honest i actually dont see too much difference now youve pointed it out, just people complaining about and making a big deal about stuff they could have ignored
It's worth commenting on because without push back the woke movement is getting people fired. Now that this has been given exposure, people can vote with their wallets.
As always the new fascists will find themselves in the minority.
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@kirwan as long as people realise the "woke brigade" ,or at least most of them, feel theyre pushing back against unacceptable behaviour...so if you step out of either camp for a second you'll see a lot of similarities in behaviours only separated by what specifically is offensive to each group
an ironically one of the only other differentiators is the "dont engage with something if going to offend you" argument ....but the ones calling for that are also failing to do it
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@kiwiwomble said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
@rancid-schnitzel i mean, the article is what started this, @Gunner has seen an article about something that has annoyed him so much hes come on here to spread the news and complain
if im honest i actually dont see too much difference now youve pointed it out, just people complaining about and making a big deal about stuff they could have ignored
No, the article didn’t start this, the PC lunacy did. You’re effectively equating @Gunner with them.
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Seeing something in a bar toilet that you were offended by, and taking the time to post it online to let everyone else know about it? Sounds exhausting. Just take a piss and go back to your drink 🥱
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@kiwiwomble said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
@kirwan as long as people realise the "woke brigade" ,or at least most of them, feel theyre pushing back against unacceptable behaviour...so if you step out of either camp for a second you'll see a lot of similarities in behaviours only separated by what specifically is offensive to each group
an ironically one of the only other differentiators is the "dont engage with something if going to offend you" argument ....but the ones calling for that are also failing to do it
I get where you are coming from, and there are definitely a lot of right wing snowflakes out there. I remember loads of them getting triggered when Harry Styles wore a dress - I mean who gives a shit about that?
But when people try to have things they don't like banned or censored, they are impeding on other people's rights, so people rightly push back against that. I don't think there is a single example in human history where the people who were advocating banning and/or censoring others were the good guys.
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@kiwiwomble said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
@kirwan as long as people realise the "woke brigade" ,or at least most of them, feel theyre pushing back against unacceptable behaviour...so if you step out of either camp for a second you'll see a lot of similarities in behaviours only separated by what specifically is offensive to each group
an ironically one of the only other differentiators is the "dont engage with something if going to offend you" argument ....but the ones calling for that are also failing to do it
It’s just like the Christian conservative nutjobs decades ago. They haven’t gone away but everyone now tells them to feck off when they try to push back against unacceptable behaviour. They’d still be getting their way if it wasn’t for pushback. Same goes for the lefty Woke Brigade. It doesn’t have to be a tribal thing.
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@no-quarter but stuff is banned and censored all the time, there is literally a government organisation to do it
Office of Film and Literature Classification
to be clear, i find tings like the toilet thing funny, or at least i did when the first started appearing, so i think those complaining about it are wasting time/energy and oxygen, but i also dont think an funny bathroom sign is worth dying on a hill over
@rancid-schnitzel said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
@kiwiwomble said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
@kirwan as long as people realise the "woke brigade" ,or at least most of them, feel theyre pushing back against unacceptable behaviour...so if you step out of either camp for a second you'll see a lot of similarities in behaviours only separated by what specifically is offensive to each group
an ironically one of the only other differentiators is the "dont engage with something if going to offend you" argument ....but the ones calling for that are also failing to do it
It’s just like the Christian conservative nutjobs decades ago. They haven’t gone away but everyone now tells them to feck off when they try to push back against unacceptable behaviour. They’d still be getting their way if it wasn’t for pushback. Same goes for the lefty Woke Brigade. It doesn’t have to be a tribal thing.
and thats where it get really interesting, you'd probably find plenty of "lefty woke brigade" claiming it was them pushing back against conservative nutjobs
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@kirwan said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
@kiwiwomble said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
@rancid-schnitzel i mean, the article is what started this, @Gunner has seen an article about something that has annoyed him so much hes come on here to spread the news and complain
if im honest i actually dont see too much difference now youve pointed it out, just people complaining about and making a big deal about stuff they could have ignored
It's worth commenting on because without push back the woke movement is getting people fired. Now that this has been given exposure, people can vote with their wallets.
As always the new fascists will find themselves in the minority.
I’ll be voting with my wallet alright, in fact I’ll make sure I drink enough just so I can go there for a piss.
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@canefan said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
Seeing something in a bar toilet that you were offended by, and taking the time to post it online to let everyone else know about it? Sounds exhausting. Just take a piss and go back to your drink 🥱
You’re as bad as them now.
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PC is a spurious, yet partially true pursuit which only serves to demonstrate power over individuals by those without power.
One day, before the next RWC, the name "All Blacks" will come under it's purview and the woke rugby fans will realise it's alright when it happens to things you don't care for - but then it's too late.
That's what's wrong with reducing " offence" down to an individual. PC runs roughshod over societal principles
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@rancid-schnitzel said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
@canefan said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
Seeing something in a bar toilet that you were offended by, and taking the time to post it online to let everyone else know about it? Sounds exhausting. Just take a piss and go back to your drink 🥱
You’re as bad as them now.
What? I'm just saying that's the world we are in these days. Rather than just walk out, someone finds the time to photograph something and release it to the world attached to a rant. Then MSM latches on and gives it more oxygen. It just all seems incredibly futile, and as KW said people seem to find so many things to get offended by and see it as their place to tell the world about it. MSM should be better than that, but we all know that they're not
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@kiwiwomble said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
@no-quarter but stuff is banned and censored all the time, there is literally a government organisation to do it
Office of Film and Literature Classification
to be clear, i find tings like the toilet thing funny, or at least i did when the first started appearing, so i think those complaining about it are wasting time/energy and oxygen, but i also dont think an funny bathroom sign is worth dying on a hill over
@rancid-schnitzel said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
@kiwiwomble said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
@kirwan as long as people realise the "woke brigade" ,or at least most of them, feel theyre pushing back against unacceptable behaviour...so if you step out of either camp for a second you'll see a lot of similarities in behaviours only separated by what specifically is offensive to each group
an ironically one of the only other differentiators is the "dont engage with something if going to offend you" argument ....but the ones calling for that are also failing to do it
It’s just like the Christian conservative nutjobs decades ago. They haven’t gone away but everyone now tells them to feck off when they try to push back against unacceptable behaviour. They’d still be getting their way if it wasn’t for pushback. Same goes for the lefty Woke Brigade. It doesn’t have to be a tribal thing.
and thats where it get really interesting, you'd probably find plenty of "lefty woke brigade" claiming it was them pushing back against conservative nutjobs
Well certainly not in this case. Or in a shit ton of other cases as well.
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@canefan said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
@rancid-schnitzel said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
@canefan said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
Seeing something in a bar toilet that you were offended by, and taking the time to post it online to let everyone else know about it? Sounds exhausting. Just take a piss and go back to your drink 🥱
You’re as bad as them now.
What? I'm just saying that's the world we are in these days. Rather than just walk out, someone finds the time to photograph something and release it to the world attached to a rant. Then MSM latches on and gives it more oxygen. It just all seems incredibly futile, and as KW said people seem to find so many things to get offended by and see it as their place to tell the world about it. MSM should be better than that, but we all know that they're not
No you responded to it so just as bad. Apparently
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@rancid-schnitzel said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
@canefan said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
@rancid-schnitzel said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
@canefan said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
Seeing something in a bar toilet that you were offended by, and taking the time to post it online to let everyone else know about it? Sounds exhausting. Just take a piss and go back to your drink 🥱
You’re as bad as them now.
What? I'm just saying that's the world we are in these days. Rather than just walk out, someone finds the time to photograph something and release it to the world attached to a rant. Then MSM latches on and gives it more oxygen. It just all seems incredibly futile, and as KW said people seem to find so many things to get offended by and see it as their place to tell the world about it. MSM should be better than that, but we all know that they're not
No you responded to it so just as bad. Apparently
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@kiwiwomble said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
@no-quarter but stuff is banned and censored all the time, there is literally a government organisation to do it
Office of Film and Literature Classification
to be clear, i find tings like the toilet thing funny, or at least i did when the first started appearing, so i think those complaining about it are wasting time/energy and oxygen, but i also dont think an funny bathroom sign is worth dying on a hill over
@rancid-schnitzel said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
@kiwiwomble said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
@kirwan as long as people realise the "woke brigade" ,or at least most of them, feel theyre pushing back against unacceptable behaviour...so if you step out of either camp for a second you'll see a lot of similarities in behaviours only separated by what specifically is offensive to each group
an ironically one of the only other differentiators is the "dont engage with something if going to offend you" argument ....but the ones calling for that are also failing to do it
It’s just like the Christian conservative nutjobs decades ago. They haven’t gone away but everyone now tells them to feck off when they try to push back against unacceptable behaviour. They’d still be getting their way if it wasn’t for pushback. Same goes for the lefty Woke Brigade. It doesn’t have to be a tribal thing.
and thats where it get really interesting, you'd probably find plenty of "lefty woke brigade" claiming it was them pushing back against conservative nutjobs
No, they just ban stuff that is against the law, and offer guidelines based on age for other content. They don't regulate based on political speech, expression of opinions, or "hate speech".
That's not the same as people deciding they find something offensive and starting campaigns to have it banned, or someone fired for their opinions etc.
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@canefan said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
@rancid-schnitzel said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
@canefan said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
Seeing something in a bar toilet that you were offended by, and taking the time to post it online to let everyone else know about it? Sounds exhausting. Just take a piss and go back to your drink 🥱
You’re as bad as them now.
What? I'm just saying that's the world we are in these days. Rather than just walk out, someone finds the time to photograph something and release it to the world attached to a rant. Then MSM latches on and gives it more oxygen. It just all seems incredibly futile, and as KW said people seem to find so many things to get offended by and see it as their place to tell the world about it. MSM should be better than that, but we all know that they're not
exactly, its one of the reasons i wasn't upset when news briefly got banned from facebook, for a week i was forced to go looking for news and i found if i had to look for it it was less likely to be something i would be annoyed by
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@no-quarter surely you realise its ever changing
they 100% would have censored stuff 50 years ago that would be shown at prime time now
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@no-quarter wasn't it them that stopped The Red Pill being released in NZ?
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I am angry that is is not in the grumpy old man thread, if anything screams angry, it has to be a thread called "F off with PC Brigade".
that is all
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@crazy-horse said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
@no-quarter wasn't it them that stopped The Red Pill being released in NZ?
I didn't realize they banned it. That goes way outside what they state on their website as that is pretty obviously politically motivated. Probably another example of the PC brigades exaggerated influence on society.
