Facebook - Time To Die?
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="JC" data-cid="552486" data-time="1452767971"><p>
Our local MP is a Labour MP (Stuart Nash). I didn't vote for him but have now met him a few times and he's a decent, down to earth bloke. If the whole party was like him they might develop some policies I'd vote for, I'm not sure he even buys half of their existing ones.</p></blockquote>
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Labour is in the middle of a full policy overhaul currently, so it won't surprise me if a lot of current policies are dumped or heavily edited. Some of it could certainly use it... <br><br>
Labour policy is being developed from the ground up i.e. members put forward remits at electorate meetings, regional conferences then discussed and voted on the remits, national conference did the same on the remits which received favorable votes at regional conferences, and the members also elect a policy council which will then take the remits and develop detailed policy from those.<br><br>
MPs don't control that process, but they do have a lot of influence at each step, so if Stuart Nash dislikes a particular policy, he has had, and will have more, opportunities to make that known. -
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Our local MP is a Labour MP (Stuart Nash). I didn't vote for him but have now met him a few times and he's a decent, down to earth bloke. If the whole party was like him they might develop some policies I'd vote for, I'm not sure he even buys half of their existing ones.</p></blockquote>
Nash is an interesting one, he doesn't seem to have time for a lot of labours behaviour <a class="bbc_url" href="http://thedailyblog.co.nz/2015/10/31/tdb-guest-blog-project-stuart-nash-the-most-pressing-issue-in-nz-right-now/">http://thedailyblog.co.nz/2015/10/31/tdb-guest-blog-project-stuart-nash-the-most-pressing-issue-in-nz-right-now/</a><br><br>
Here's Greg Presland slagging him off, Nash replies in the comments section <a class="bbc_url" href="http://thestandard.org.nz/dear-stuart-nash/">http://thestandard.org.nz/dear-stuart-nash/</a><br>
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So I was thinking about how with facebook getting on more and more peoples tits how about a feature that would give the ability to differentiate what is blocked on your feed, so instead of blocking Megan entirely you choose to block shitty quotes, health tips and anything political. I'm still happy to the odd photo of the family or whats been going on on the farm. Surely that wouldn't be out of the realms of facebook's technical ability.
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<p>Labour is in the middle of a full policy overhaul currently, so it won't surprise me if a lot of current policies are dumped or heavily edited. Some of it could certainly use it...<br><br>
Labour policy is being developed from the ground up i.e. members put forward remits at electorate meetings, regional conferences then discussed and voted on the remits, national conference did the same on the remits which received favorable votes at regional conferences, and the members also elect a policy council which will then take the remits and develop detailed policy from those.<br><br>
MPs don't control that process, but they do have a lot of influence at each step, so if Stuart Nash dislikes a particular policy, he has had, and will have more, opportunities to make that known.</p>
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<p>And that is precisely the problem. MP's should decide policy. You just said how they have the ear to the ground and are listening to what the people want.... and then they don't control the process over policy. Currently the activist base in Labour holds way to much power and pushes agendas that the voting public simply dont like.</p>
<p>MP's should decide policy based on input from members and other stakeholders. Not the other way around. That is how you win elections, and to make all the policy relevant you need to win elections.</p>
<p>The activist base decided on a leader the MP's didnt want. And now they are going to push policy that the electorate doesnt want.</p>
<p>TPP is a classic case of the morons running the asylum. Labour was always about free trade, sticking to international agreements and foreign trade. Now they are just repeating the brainless mutterings of the far left base. Little has already stated he will beak some of TPP clauses.. wait to see how that brainless idea gets exposed in an election campaign.</p>
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<p>Labour is stuffed as long as it is run by a far left activist base. </p> -
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<p>So I was thinking about how with facebook getting on more and more peoples tits how about a feature that would give the ability to differentiate what is blocked on your feed, so instead of blocking Megan entirely you choose to block shitty quotes, health tips and anything political. I'm still happy to the odd photo of the family or whats been going on on the farm. Surely that wouldn't be out of the realms of facebook's technical ability.</p>
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<p>Unless Megan tags it then yeah that is almost impossible. How exactly do you expect FB to decide what is political?</p> -
<p>It has that "Hide post - see fewer posts like this" feature so you don't have to fully block a person. But I have no idea how sophisticated that is, it'd be easy to block particular sites/pages that people are sharing but beyond that ....???</p>
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Unless Megan tags it then yeah that is almost impossible. How exactly do you expect FB to decide what is political?</p></blockquote>
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I'm thinking something along the lines of detecting political keywords qnd then blocking from there, as for memes and inspirational quotes maybe some ocr to pick up text over image, it won't be perfect of course but it just needs to be an improvement. -
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<p>I'm thinking something along the lines of detecting political keywords qnd then blocking from there, as for memes and inspirational quotes maybe some ocr to pick up text over image, it won't be perfect of course but it just needs to be an improvement.</p>
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<p>Really? What keywords? Who monitors it and maintains it? What about political key words in some countries and not others?</p>
<p>You are quite correct ti wont be perfect... it would be a shambles. And if by 'improvement' you mean complete invention of AI .. then yeah.</p>
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<p>As for memes.. how is a street sign much different from a meme quote in a message? </p> -
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<p>It has that "Hide post - see fewer posts like this" feature so you don't have to fully block a person. But I have no idea how sophisticated that is, it'd be easy to block particular sites/pages that people are sharing but beyond that ....???</p>
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<p>That works as the posts/ads are categorised. But they are categorised based on type and poster rather than any real analysis of content.</p> -
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<p>Nash is an interesting one, he doesn't seem to have time for a lot of labours behaviour <a class="bbc_url" href="http://thedailyblog.co.nz/2015/10/31/tdb-guest-blog-project-stuart-nash-the-most-pressing-issue-in-nz-right-now/">http://thedailyblog.co.nz/2015/10/31/tdb-guest-blog-project-stuart-nash-the-most-pressing-issue-in-nz-right-now/</a><br><br>
Here's Greg Presland slagging him off, Nash replies in the comments section <a class="bbc_url" href="http://thestandard.org.nz/dear-stuart-nash/">http://thestandard.org.nz/dear-stuart-nash/</a><br>
Particularly liked the comparison to a doc toilet.</p>
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<p>The comments on that Standard blog were pretty amusing. Typical worthless "social justice" scum.</p> -
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Watching them tie themselves in knots trying minimise Assange being wanted for sex offences was hilarious , Penny Bright in particular shamed herself . Classic example of a social media echo chamber, if you disagree with a narrow band of thought you get bullied then banned. -
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Really? What keywords? Who monitors it and maintains it? What about political key words in some countries and not others?<br>
You are quite correct ti wont be perfect... it would be a shambles. And if by 'improvement' you mean complete invention of AI .. then yeah.<br><br>
As for memes.. how is a street sign much different from a meme quote in a message?</p></blockquote>
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Ha well it won't get done with that attitude! Keywords could be maintained by facebook much like how mailmarshal and gmail categorisation works perhaps giving certain weighting to words and combinations. If what us TSFers are experiencing with facebook now is symptomatic of a global frustration with facebook then it would be in their interest to come up with something. As for street signs I think I think I'm willing to miss out on the odd cleverly vandalised hammer-time STOP sign if that could mean I get a whole lot less David Wolfe in my life! -
How about a warning on their feed " this person holds medical and/or political opinions that are unsupported by any evidence . Click yes to see their stream of bullshit or fuck no and only see what they had for lunch and bragging about their wonderful (heavily edited for consumption) life?"
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<p>I think I'm willing to miss out on the odd cleverly vandalised hammer-time STOP sign if that could mean I get a whole lot less David Wolfe in my life!</p>
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<p>Fuck yeah. Got some friends who FB share his brand of hippy superfood crap and often it requires the unfollow option.</p>
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<p>Politics - not sure where NZ is up to in the scale of professional politics, but in Australia we're only about a generation behind the US in terms of lobby funding and toeing the party line ahead of common sense. At the moment our Labor party have a lack of anything resembling leadership in their leader, and apparently a policy of "we don't have any policies, don't like any policies, particularly those of the other bloke!"</p>
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<p>The comments of that Stuart Nash guy about reformation for Labor is pretty apparent here, too. I've always felt that the biggest damage done to Labor in the Howard years was the GST - they argued long and hard about how it would hurt working families, calling to the traditional support base - the Unions - on the financial devastation it would wreak. Of course, income tax was tweaked downward to compensate, so those Union workers suddenly had a bigger pay packet and could give less fucks about the GST. Howard eventually ran out of puff, and Kevin07 was stabbed by JLard was stabbed by Kevin13 and they collapsed in a screaming heap of nothingness. </p>
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<p>Now Labor are using a GST price hike opposition as a rallying point, and pointing to the cuts that the LNP are making as evidence of burned promises and ripping the little guy off. But the cuts have to be made somewhere because the resources boom isn't a thing any more because China finally realised you can't just keep throwing people and things at other things to be profitable, with an emerging middle class consumer base.</p>
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<p>Turnbull needs to win an election before he can overcome the factionalism within the LNP, and you have a longstanding Liberal member trying to leave that side of the Coalition to join the Nationals.</p>
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<p>Ultimately, people in Australia have it so good across the board that they need to bitch about something, which is often bitching about nothing.</p> -
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<p>Fuck yeah. Got some friends who FB share his brand of hippy superfood crap and often it requires the unfollow option.</p>
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<p>I had the same policy..but then I found out one of the worst perpetrators on my feed had been running a depression support group a key part of which was lifting peoples spirits etc and old wolfey's does that apparently, so anyway I've had to adjust my policy and re-follow my friend as that's pretty admirable.</p> -
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Problem with David Wolfe is that he seems to use a lot of the inspirational posts as a gateway to getting people into his page/newsfeed to drag them deeper into the alternative therapies woo....</p></blockquote>
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<p>I had the same policy..but then I found out one of the worst perpetrators on my feed had been running a depression support group a key part of which was lifting peoples spirits etc and old wolfey's does that apparently, so anyway I've had to adjust my policy and re-follow my friend as that's pretty admirable.</p>
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<p>Thats good of your mate to do that but I'm sure he'd be better off sharing some of JKs wisdom about beating the black dog than someone called David Avacado Wolfe .</p>
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<p>What the fuck does this mean?</p>
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<p><img src="https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/07/32/d2/0732d20d6186c8e049299262cc76af01.jpg" alt="0732d20d6186c8e049299262cc76af01.jpg"></p>
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<p>A bit more digging brings up this </p>
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<p><img src="http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/files/2015/05/Baby-Reflexology-450x450.jpg" alt="Baby-Reflexology-450x450.jpg"></p>
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<p>And this </p>
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<p><img src="http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/files/2015/05/Naturalistic-335x450.jpg" alt="Naturalistic-335x450.jpg"></p>
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<p>Also he looks like Adam Glasser with a goatee, really surprised that his nose appears to have never been broken.</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Rembrandt" data-cid="552598" data-time="1452815375"><p>I had the same policy..but then I found out one of the worst perpetrators on my feed had been running a depression support group a key part of which was lifting peoples spirits etc and old wolfey's does that apparently, so anyway I've had to adjust my policy and re-follow my friend as that's pretty admirable.</p></blockquote>
And I can admire that. But using a massive D-bag to achieve that dilutes the message somewhat -
<p>Holy shit that's insane. I've never heard of the guy, people actually buy into that?</p>
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<p>I've posted this before but it's true: Think of how stupid the average person is, and realise half of them are stupider than that (George Carlin).</p>
