Ukraine
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@mariner4life said in Ukraine:
so, the inevitable worst has come to pass
With Instagram banned in Russia, the pages of hundred, nay, thousands of hot semi-naked russian skanks will disappear.
The whole platform just lost the majority of its appeal
Torrents have ground to a trickle too
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@mikethesnow said in Ukraine:
@mariner4life said in Ukraine:
so, the inevitable worst has come to pass
With Instagram banned in Russia, the pages of hundred, nay, thousands of hot semi-naked russian skanks will disappear.
The whole platform just lost the majority of its appeal
Torrents have ground to a trickle too
Imagine all those unemployed nubiles requiring sensitive consolation...
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I donāt know Ukranian law. Canāt he just make a presidentisl-style executive-order? Or does Vlad have to draft an agreement and get Zelenskyās signature in blood?
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I have been watching testimonials from U.S., U.K. and Canadian legionaires who are calling their volunteerism a trap, being threatened with getting shot in the back for refusing to go into Kiev armed with a single magazine and having to get smuggled out. CNN starting to run interviews with them. They really have no idea what theyāre signing onto.
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Elon gets a reply. Heās updated his twitter handle.
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Interesting take by John Simpson on path out of this.
So what will make President Putin come out of this disastrous war looking good in the eyes of Russia's majority? Firstly, an assurance, perhaps even to be written into Ukraine's constitution, that it has no intention of joining Nato in the foreseeable future. President Zelensky has already prepared the way for this, by asking Nato for something it couldn't agree to (establishing a no-fly-zone over Ukraine), then criticising the alliance for letting him down on this, and finally musing out loud that he wasn't sure that if Nato behaved like this, it was actually worth joining. As clever and wise political positioning goes, it doesn't get much better than this. Nato gets the blame, which it can easily cope with, and Ukraine gets the freedom to act as it wants.
whole article is worth a read:
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Since 2015, and blue-check verified. I had to go onto twitter and verify for myself that this wasnāt a 4chan prank. It isnāt.
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@kid-chocolate Hardly surprising at all NATO has diplomatic missions in lots of places plus Ukraine is a Nato partner (along with Armenia, Austria, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Finland, Georgia, Ireland, Kazakhstan, Kyrghyz Republic, Malta, The Republic of Moldova, Russia, Serbia, Sweden, Switzerland, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Ukraine, Uzbekistan). Which fed Putin and Russia's paranoia.
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Good posts. The problem that the tweet & the NYT article sadly highlights is conspiracy theorists believing any old crap which supports their loopy theories and a MSM with a track-record of biased journalism or just making stuff up to suit their advertisers/financial backers - e.g. the NYT's attempts to discredit the Wuhan Lab theory.
Dumb conspiracy theorists on one side and an un-trustworthy, biased MSM on the other and each feeding the other - what could possibly go wrong?
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@kid-chocolate said in Ukraine:
Since 2015, and blue-check verified. I had to go onto twitter and verify for myself that this wasnāt a 4chan prank. It isnāt.
Actually, NATO also had the same representation in Russia until 4-5 months ago under the same program - Partnership for Peace - that Ukraine has. Cooperation with NATO was reduced after Putin annexed Crimea, but Russia had been pushing for co-operation to be restored since 2018. It was Putin who ordered the closure of NATO's office in Oct 2021.
So Putin seemed quite happy to have the same relationship with NATO as Ukraine - until he started massing troops on Ukraine's borders.
"Relations between the NATO military alliance and the Russian Federation were established in 1991 within the framework of the North Atlantic Cooperation Council.[1][2] In 1994, Russia joined the Partnership for Peace program, and since that time, NATO and Russia have signed several important agreements on cooperation.[3]"
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im going to ask the stupid question, i could google a bit more but will be interesting to get people thoughts....what does Putin claim he's doing?
when he started and when he annexed crimea i thought the claim was these regions wanted to be liberated, to be no longer part of Ukraine, is he claiming that the majority of the country wants to be part of russia? or just that Kyiv is part of these regions that wants to be liberated despite the fight back
or had he given up any pretence and he's happy to say he's punishing them for wanting to be part of nato
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This (admittedly biased) tweet seems to give one answer...
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@kiwiwomble said in Ukraine:
im going to ask the stupid question, i could google a bit more but will be interesting to get people thoughts....what does Putin claim he's doing?
when he started and when he annexed crimea i thought the claim was these regions wanted to be liberated, to be no longer part of Ukraine, is he claiming that the majority of the country wants to be part of russia? or just that Kyiv is part of these regions that wants to be liberated despite the fight back
or had he given up any pretence and he's happy to say he's punishing them for wanting to be part of nato
He claims that Ukraine is full of Nazis, Government is complicit (and illegal?), there's widespread oppression (I think he's even accused them of genocide?) - and he's going in there to save everybody.
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@kiwiwomble said in Ukraine:
im going to ask the stupid question, i could google a bit more but will be interesting to get people thoughts....what does Putin claim he's doing?
Some insight into his thinking here.
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@kid-chocolate The last line of the article reads
"And what Ukraine will be ā it is up to its citizens to decide." After seeing what is happening up there need we say any more what they have decided? -
He claims that Ukraine is full of Nazis, Government is complicit (and illegal?), there's widespread oppression (I think he's even accused them of genocide?) - and he's going in there to save everybody.
And the biolabs. Don't forget the biolabs - the ones that are a threat to Russia directly.
So threatening they were only mentioned after he started shelling people.