How many Crusaders in your AB 23?
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How many Crusaders in your match day 23 vs Ireland. If you had to pick right now, knowing what you know right now
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This has come up in few discussions. I'm interested to see what peoples opinions actually are
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I went through a few scenarios and came up with 7, 8 or 9. I went for the average
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So long as Will Jordan is in I don’t care how many else.
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@duluth Whitelock & Jordan Starters, Reece right wing if Jordans fb
Taylor, Mounga on the bench. It might be controversial but incumbents such as Joe Moody & George Bridge wouldn't make my 23, I do have a soft spot for Bridgey though maybe he can run the water? -
Moody
Taylor (bench)
Whitelock
Barrett (bench)
Blackadder (bench)
Mounga (bench)
Havili (bench or starter if JB fullback)
Jordan
Reece- maybe too early in the season to be sure yet but Newell and LF thereabouts
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For sure: Moody, Taylor, Whitelock, Jordan
Maybe: S.Barrett, E.Blackadder, Mo'unga, Reece.8 max but will probably be lowered than that.
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@sparky said in How many Crusaders in your AB 23?:
For sure: Moody, Taylor, Whitelock, Jordan
Maybe: S.Barrett, E.Blackadder, Mo'unga, Reece.8 max but will probably be lowered than that.
Pretty much spot-on for me. I'd poss. swap Taylor for Reece on the bench and add Havili there too as a utility back.
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@old-samurai-jack 9 people, but you voted 10 or 11?
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@sparky said in How many Crusaders in your AB 23?:
For sure: Moody, Taylor, Whitelock, Jordan
Maybe: S.Barrett, E.Blackadder, Mo'unga, Reece.8 max but will probably be lowered than that.
Spot on for the squad.
How many make the 23 is another question.
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@nzzp Yeah, made a mistake and then couldn't correct it.
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@old-samurai-jack said in How many Crusaders in your AB 23?:
@nzzp Yeah, made a mistake and then couldn't correct it.
Scooter is that you?
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As long as Bridge isn't there then it's fine.
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@yeetyaah Ennor is harder to explain than Bridge. Before Bridge's form dropped he was quite handy.
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Has @shark voted yet ?
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Creme de la creme - Jordan, Whitelock
Probables- Scott Barrett, Moody, Taylor, Mounga, Blackadder, Reece.
Maybes - Havili, Gallagher, Newell
Fuck offs - Ennor, Bridge, Bower, Ennor and Bridge.
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@frank does Cullen Grace remain a 1 test all black like other infamous crusaders such as Brett Cameron & George Whitelock? or will Grace eventually be back in the fold? lots of competition at 8 with Savea, Hoskins, Jacobson & Pita Gus🤔
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@fakatavafuture said in How many Crusaders in your AB 23?:
@frank does Cullen Grace remain a 1 test all black like other infamous crusaders such as Brett Cameron & George Whitelock? or will Grace eventually be back in the fold? lots of competition at 8 with Savea, Hoskins, Jacobson & Pita Gus🤔
He'll be back, looks to be hitting his straps again and bloody young. More versatile than Sotutu... but very similar to Blackadder.
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@old-samurai-jack said in How many Crusaders in your AB 23?:
@yeetyaah Ennor is harder to explain than Bridge. Before Bridge's form dropped he was quite handy.
Was a shoe in for left wing, then Robertson fucked him over at centre and forced Foster to show how wrong that was.
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@nzzp I voted 7. I'd really want a First Five against Ireland whose defence is better than Richie Mo'unga's.
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@fakatavafuture He'll be back. He was just picked way before his time but he goes alright, just a bit overhyped too quickly.
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I would have Jordan Reece Mounga Whitelock Moody Taylor and Newell. Rm Ct and Fn on bench. Others start
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I’d have Jordan, Moody, Reece, Mo’unga, Whitelock and Taylor starting.
Blackadder off the bench.
Scott Barrett in the squad.
In an extended squad I would think about Fainga'anuku and Grace, but they’d be making up the numbers.
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Moody, whitelock, Reece and Jordan starting
De Groot and mounga off the bench.
6 of 23 sounds about right.
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@mariner4life De Groot would never do a Justin Marshall & betray the people of Gore to wear red & black
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@fakatavafuture said in How many Crusaders in your AB 23?:
@mariner4life De Groot would never do a Justin Marshall & betray the people of Gore to wear red & black
Lol jesus that's a shocker.
Drop it by 1 then
Which now seems light.
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@mariner4life said in How many Crusaders in your AB 23?:
@fakatavafuture said in How many Crusaders in your AB 23?:
@mariner4life De Groot would never do a Justin Marshall & betray the people of Gore to wear red & black
Lol jesus that's a shocker.
Drop it by 1 then
Which now seems light.
Taylor is probably still number 2 number 2. That’s six.
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@gt12 said in How many Crusaders in your AB 23?:
@mariner4life said in How many Crusaders in your AB 23?:
@fakatavafuture said in How many Crusaders in your AB 23?:
@mariner4life De Groot would never do a Justin Marshall & betray the people of Gore to wear red & black
Lol jesus that's a shocker.
Drop it by 1 then
Which now seems light.
Taylor is probably still number 2 number 2. That’s six.
I still like Coles. Taylor was dogshit at test level last year.
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@mariner4life said in How many Crusaders in your AB 23?:
@gt12 said in How many Crusaders in your AB 23?:
@mariner4life said in How many Crusaders in your AB 23?:
@fakatavafuture said in How many Crusaders in your AB 23?:
@mariner4life De Groot would never do a Justin Marshall & betray the people of Gore to wear red & black
Lol jesus that's a shocker.
Drop it by 1 then
Which now seems light.
Taylor is probably still number 2 number 2. That’s six.
I still like Coles. Taylor was dogshit at test level last year.
Fair, but Coles is injured.
Either way, he still makes the squad.
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@yeetyaah said in How many Crusaders in your AB 23?:
As long as Bridge isn't there then it's fine.
Should have been a poll option, really.... I mean, given the history of The Fern.
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@mn5 said in How many Crusaders in your AB 23?:
Has @shark voted yet ?
Probably trying to work out which crusaders to leave out of the 23
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Based on fitness and form:
Like anyone sane Whitelock, Jordan and Reece start. Taylor, Mounga, Barrett on the bench.
Actually Moody as well because I'm unconvinced about the depth at loosehead. So I guess that makes seven.
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First test against Ireland - I reckon Fozzie will be conservative and go with what he knows. I'd expect something like...
Moody, Taylor, Tuúngafasi, Whitelock, Retallick, Blackadder, Cane, Savea
Smith, Barrett, Reece, Havili, Ioane, Jordan, BarrettBower, Taukeiáho, Laulala, Barrett, PapaliÃ, Christie, Moúnga, Tupaea.
Which would be 10.
I'd say Bower is least likely to be there, but he's as likely as any other option. If Jordie is 2nd five Havili might miss out altogether.
I don't really know what they're thinking at 6, but Blackadder was ahead of anyone except possibly Akira last year..
Jack Goodhue is also floating about unmentioned.
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4 (Whitelock, Moody, Jordan, Richie)
Moody, ST, Ofa, Brodie, Sam, Ioane, Dalton, PGS, Smith, Barrett, Clarke, TUG, Ioane, Jordan, Barrett.
Reserves: DeGroot, Coles, Lomax, Va'ai, Ardie, Fakatava, Mo'unga, ALB.
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@kiwi_expat yes would be great to see Fakatava get the call up! sure Finlay Christie goes great guns for the blues but with Christie not getting off the bench at all in the Ireland test & then last hr flying Aaron over for the France test makes me wonder why not show abit of faith in Finlay on tour
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@fakatavafuture said in How many Crusaders in your AB 23?:
why not show abit of faith in Finlay on tour
Well whatever they did, worked (for Christie). So can't really fault them for that.
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@mariner4life said in How many Crusaders in your AB 23?:
Moody, whitelock, Reece and Jordan starting
De Groot and mounga off the bench.
6 of 23 sounds about right.
Not nitpicking but who is your backup hooker, and other lock(s) ?
I.E., I'm thinking Taylor at 16 (> Aumua, and Coles injured), and Barrett (or are you assuming the latter is suspended, a liability, or not as good as Lord/Vaa'i?)
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Coles
Lord and Vaa'i
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@mariner4life said in How many Crusaders in your AB 23?:
Coles
Lord and Vaa'i
Given Coles is injured "right now" (@Duluth 's original criteria), and given I agree your opinion on Taylor's form, would you leave him out for Aumua?
And am interested in whether you're picking the young'uns over Retallick, or if he is in the Coles basket?
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@booboo said in How many Crusaders in your AB 23?:
@mariner4life said in How many Crusaders in your AB 23?:
Coles
Lord and Vaa'i
Given Coles is injured "right now" (@Duluth 's original criteria), and given I agree your opinion on Taylor's form, would you leave him out for Aumua?
And Whitelock on current form? Is he the lock her used to be? Genuine question, not sure how many minutes he's played this year, or how good he's been
