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    @Yeahtheboys said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:

    If Aaron smith wasn’t called Aaron smith and his rugby skills were inserted onto another body (not called Aaron smith) for the last year.

    Would Roigard start over that player

    Nope. Smith brings unrivalled speed and accuracy of pass, which the All Blacks main gameplan is built around.

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    @frugby said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:

    @Yeahtheboys said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:

    If Aaron smith wasn’t called Aaron smith and his rugby skills were inserted onto another body (not called Aaron smith) for the last year.

    Would Roigard start over that player

    Nope. Smith brings unrivalled speed and accuracy of pass, which the All Blacks main gameplan is built around.

    He would be first cab off the rank, with Brad Webber in 3rd...

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    So, Roigard scores a brilliant 70m individual try against the Boks, is man of the Match in his 1st start. And Christie is bloody average at best.

    Let's see just how stubborn Foster is.
    If he picks him, it's a tacit admission, he got it wrong by persisting with Christie.

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    @canefan said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:

    @frugby said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:

    @Yeahtheboys said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:

    If Aaron smith wasn’t called Aaron smith and his rugby skills were inserted onto another body (not called Aaron smith) for the last year.

    Would Roigard start over that player

    Nope. Smith brings unrivalled speed and accuracy of pass, which the All Blacks main gameplan is built around.

    He would be first cab off the rank, with Brad Webber in 3rd...

    I guess the other thing to remember is of course, the original hypothetical is silly, because Smith's experience and years of quality for the All Blacks undoubtedly means he should be starting.

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    @akan004 said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:

    Discipline is still a massive worry. 12 penalties conceded against a poor side like Namibia is a terrible stat.

    Not sure why this continues to be an issue. Perhaps the coaches are far too nice and the players don't fear them. Drop serial offenders for a game and I bet they don't do it again. Whatever it is they better fix it fast.

    Because foster thinks their discipline is fine, even good

    “We knew people expected us to win, and sometimes those games can get loose on you and you can start searching for stuff. I liked the discipline. It came off the platform of doing some basic stuff consistently well up front.

    12 penalties to 7, and a red card versus tier 3 side is pleasing discipline in the foster zone

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    @Machpants maybe they expected 18?

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    @Machpants Yeah I watched the PC and couldn't believe that he thought it was good. So clueless.

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    @Frank said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:

    Okay here's my updated (may need to administered anti-psychotics for severe delusions and basically knowing nothing about rugby) team for the QF.

    Massively changing things up.
    Secret trainings and a change in tactics to keep the ball in hand more.

    15 Will Jordan
    14 Telea
    13 Reiko
    12 J Barrett
    11 Leicester
    10 Beauden Barret (with STRICT INSTRUCTIONS to play direct, straightening to run at the line)
    9 Roigard (fucks with the other teams prep + Aaron smith on at some point to speed the game up)
    8 Savea
    7 Blackadder - special player into everything
    6 Frizell
    5 Scott Barrett (captain)
    4 Retallick
    3 Lomax if fit
    2 Samisoni
    1 DeGroot (if available)

    Sure why not 🤷

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    @Machpants said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:

    @akan004 said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:

    Discipline is still a massive worry. 12 penalties conceded against a poor side like Namibia is a terrible stat.

    Not sure why this continues to be an issue. Perhaps the coaches are far too nice and the players don't fear them. Drop serial offenders for a game and I bet they don't do it again. Whatever it is they better fix it fast.

    Because foster thinks their discipline is fine, even good

    “We knew people expected us to win, and sometimes those games can get loose on you and you can start searching for stuff. I liked the discipline. It came off the platform of doing some basic stuff consistently well up front.

    12 penalties to 7, and a red card versus tier 3 side is pleasing discipline in the foster zone

    Maybe he was referring to them being disciplined enough to stick with a game plan and not throw it around willy nilly?

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    @Frank said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:

    Okay here's my updated (may need to administered anti-psychotics for severe delusions and basically knowing nothing about rugby) team for the QF.

    Massively changing things up.
    Secret trainings and a change in tactics to keep the ball in hand more.

    15 Will Jordan
    14 Telea
    13 Reiko
    12 J Barrett
    11 Leicester
    10 Beauden Barret (with STRICT INSTRUCTIONS to play direct, straightening to run at the line)
    9 Roigard (fucks with the other teams prep + Aaron smith on at some point to speed the game up)
    8 Savea
    7 Blackadder - special player into everything
    6 Frizell
    5 Scott Barrett (captain)
    4 Retallick
    3 Lomax if fit
    2 Samisoni
    1 DeGroot (if available)

    Shouldn’t you have J Barrett and Frizell with “if fit” beside their names ?

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    @Frank said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:

    So, Roigard scores a brilliant 70m individual try against the Boks, is man of the Match in his 1st start. And Christie is bloody average at best.

    Let's see just how stubborn Foster is.
    If he picks him, it's a tacit admission, he got it wrong by persisting with Christie.

    Can't win can he?

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    We needed that performance after two poor outings against the Boks and French. AB’s were accurate and methodical. They were controlled even when racking up a big score. No helter skelter rugby, kept largely to structure.

    Some good performances too - Roigard although his passing needs improvement, DMac and Leicester were my pick. No real standout in the pack, they all seemed to stick to their roles.

    I think Roigard may have pushed ahead of Christie in that performance. Did anyone else notice DMac, Beaudy had to dip low to scoop up some of Roigard’s passes? They seemed to hit them either low or chest height.

    DeGroot is a worry. No malicious intent but more sloppy. Just brushed the head of Namibian player who clearly hurt his shoulder in the collision.

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    @Machpants said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:

    @akan004 said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:

    Discipline is still a massive worry. 12 penalties conceded against a poor side like Namibia is a terrible stat.

    Not sure why this continues to be an issue. Perhaps the coaches are far too nice and the players don't fear them. Drop serial offenders for a game and I bet they don't do it again. Whatever it is they better fix it fast.

    Because foster thinks their discipline is fine, even good

    “We knew people expected us to win, and sometimes those games can get loose on you and you can start searching for stuff. I liked the discipline. It came off the platform of doing some basic stuff consistently well up front.

    12 penalties to 7, and a red card versus tier 3 side is pleasing discipline in the foster zone

    The same article mentioned David Havili was a “bright spark” in midfield.

    Against a team with a World Cup 259 points for 1388 against record…..21 games without a win but a weather effected draw with Canada in 2019.

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    @TheMojoman said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:

    Namibian player who clearly hurt his shoulder in the collision.

    There's our EdG defence right there. Nice. Get that out in the webosphere

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    @Frank said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:

    Okay here's my updated (may need to administered anti-psychotics for severe delusions and basically knowing nothing about rugby) team for the QF.

    Massively changing things up.
    Secret trainings and a change in tactics to keep the ball in hand more.

    15 Will Jordan
    14 Telea
    13 Reiko
    12 J Barrett
    11 Leicester
    10 Beauden Barret (with STRICT INSTRUCTIONS to play direct, straightening to run at the line)
    9 Roigard (fucks with the other teams prep + Aaron smith on at some point to speed the game up)
    8 Savea
    7 Blackadder - special player into everything
    6 Frizell
    5 Scott Barrett (captain)
    4 Retallick
    3 Lomax if fit
    2 Samisoni
    1 DeGroot (if available)

    I agree but it ain't gonna happen. Plus DMac

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    Frank it will be interesting to hear your view if Roigard doesn't make the bench

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    @TheMojoman said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:

    DeGroot is a worry. No malicious intent but more sloppy. Just brushed the head of Namibian player who clearly hurt his shoulder in the collision.

    It's a significant problem for these big tight forwards - being the second man tackler.

    Many of them are not nimble enough to adjust to the dynamics of the game - so a disproportionate number get binned/banned.

    Earlier in the game Nepo lined up a Namibian back and missed him completely - mainly caught his fellow prop. He and Ofa were caught looking a bit crestfallen - "Do you think anyone noticed?"

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    @BerniesCorner said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:

    @TheMojoman said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:

    Namibian player who clearly hurt his shoulder in the collision.

    There's our EdG defence right there. Nice. Get that out in the webosphere

    They can be simultaneous

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    @MN5 said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:

    @Machpants said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:

    @akan004 said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:

    Discipline is still a massive worry. 12 penalties conceded against a poor side like Namibia is a terrible stat.

    Not sure why this continues to be an issue. Perhaps the coaches are far too nice and the players don't fear them. Drop serial offenders for a game and I bet they don't do it again. Whatever it is they better fix it fast.

    Because foster thinks their discipline is fine, even good

    “We knew people expected us to win, and sometimes those games can get loose on you and you can start searching for stuff. I liked the discipline. It came off the platform of doing some basic stuff consistently well up front.

    12 penalties to 7, and a red card versus tier 3 side is pleasing discipline in the foster zone

    The same article mentioned David Havili was a “bright spark” in midfield.

    Against a team with a World Cup 259 points for 1388 against record…..21 games without a win but a weather effected draw with Canada in 2019.

    Yeah, I didn't talk about the ridiculous opinions in the article, I just quoted Foster directly. He thought the midfield 'grew into the game' - ie once Ioane was on it improved

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    Hey stats guys

    I know Namibia didn't have a lot of ball, but even when they did I didn't see us make any impact on their ruck. Did we win many turnovers? And who? We just seem to not have an outlet to turn over ball at the moment.

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