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@voodoo said in NZ Politics:
@gt12 said in NZ Politics:
Sounds like a great idea to encourage gangs to enter the tobacco trade
I didn't even think of that. My brain stopped at the fun police telling us what we can and can't do again. Soon sugar will be banned cos obesity, and you'll be forced to carry an alcohol-app on your phone that caps you out at 2 beers per night
There's that too. My (Japanese) wife said 'these guys are just looking for the next thing that will get them worldwide attention, they can't stand to have lost the attention of 'winning' against Covid.
My first thought was that there is a great business in getting people like us to buy cigs and then sell them on to youngsters.
It's a completely unenforceable law that indicates they know nothing about banning things, and even worse I believe it treats (as it was explained in the article) Maori people as if they are children and too dumb to act in their own interests.
Edit: Here is the quote from which I draw that analysis:
“If nothing changes, it would be decades till Māori smoking rates fall below 5%,” Verrall said. She said eradicating smoking in the next four years was within reach: “I believe it is. In fact, we’re on track to for the New Zealand European population. The issue is, though, if we don’t change what we’re doing, we won’t make it for Maori – and that’s [what] the plan is really focused on”.
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@gt12 ha I been seeing the headline all yesterday but only now read it properly!
But it is unsurprising this is pushing for Maori given the issues surrounding the vaccine roll out has focused on, and yet missed Maori.
Another peice of legislation that has just gone through is being able to change your gender on your birth certificate.
Labour making hay, just like thier gangs with the police otherwise occupied.
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@taniwharugby said in NZ Politics:
Another peice of legislation that has just gone through is being able to change your gender on your birth certificate.
TBF that received all party support
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@dogmeat said in NZ Politics:
add in compulsory collective bargaining - not that it's called that of course. The Be Kind to Each Other and Take From The Rich Act or something like that
And the removal of the probationary period, I think in their first term. Friend's company is taking on less staff just because of that, too much of a risk as it's so hard to get rid of a shit employee.
Labour love their unintended consequences.
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@paekakboyz said in NZ Politics:
@kirwan what does that say about their recruitment process? have they been burnt in the past with someone/s that presented well but were shithouse?
Some people interview really well. We've been burned by that in the company I work with, but as it's a US company (which has laws too far the other way) it's easily rectified.
I've worked at compnaies with people that have great CVs, get through a great interview process but are like hiring cancer with all the problems they cause.
IMO, you want a system that allows companies to take a risk on people without being stuck with them.
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And I'll add, that if the people making policy believe that employers are stealing the worker's labour as principle, then whatever system they design will be ludicrious.
Same situation with believing landlords are money grubbing slumlords.
Can see the end game of a "Kiwi Homes" version of state houses and "Kiwi Work" centralised employer
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@kirwan said in NZ Politics:
@paekakboyz said in NZ Politics:
@kirwan what does that say about their recruitment process? have they been burnt in the past with someone/s that presented well but were shithouse?
Some people interview really well.
And with school leavers / new grads, good interviewing may be the only thing going for them as you’re taking a punt on their lack of experience.
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Probationary periods are essential when hiring people. Some people interview really well, have great references, but for some reason don't get it, or don't fit, and with how hard it is to manage them out after 6 months, you need that period t make a call.
I get why they are unpopular with employees, it would suck to leave a job, go to a new one, and then not make it there.
But to scrap them altogether is a breathtakingly one-sided piece of legislation. Running a business gets harder every fucking yearBanning smokes is ridiculous. When has prohibition ever worked for anything. Do people not do things that are illegal?
It doesn't affect me because, well, aside from not living there, i do not, nor have i ever smoked. But by christ i am real sick of governments being front and centre in people's lives. -
@kirwan said in NZ Politics:
@paekakboyz said in NZ Politics:
@kirwan what does that say about their recruitment process? have they been burnt in the past with someone/s that presented well but were shithouse?
Some people interview really well. We've been burned by that in the company I work with, but as it's a US company (which has laws too far the other way) it's easily rectified.
I've worked at compnaies with people that have great CVs, get through a great interview process but are like hiring cancer with all the problems they cause.
IMO, you want a system that allows companies to take a risk on people without being stuck with them.
I know I do. I’m a team player with a real “can do” attitude and I’m comfortable working with others or autonomously.
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@mn5 said in NZ Politics:
@kirwan said in NZ Politics:
@paekakboyz said in NZ Politics:
@kirwan what does that say about their recruitment process? have they been burnt in the past with someone/s that presented well but were shithouse?
Some people interview really well. We've been burned by that in the company I work with, but as it's a US company (which has laws too far the other way) it's easily rectified.
I've worked at compnaies with people that have great CVs, get through a great interview process but are like hiring cancer with all the problems they cause.
IMO, you want a system that allows companies to take a risk on people without being stuck with them.
I know I do. I’m a team player with a real “can do” attitude and I’m comfortable working with others or autonomously.
I was thinking you are more like this guy.
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@frank said in NZ Politics:
@mn5 said in NZ Politics:
@kirwan said in NZ Politics:
@paekakboyz said in NZ Politics:
@kirwan what does that say about their recruitment process? have they been burnt in the past with someone/s that presented well but were shithouse?
Some people interview really well. We've been burned by that in the company I work with, but as it's a US company (which has laws too far the other way) it's easily rectified.
I've worked at compnaies with people that have great CVs, get through a great interview process but are like hiring cancer with all the problems they cause.
IMO, you want a system that allows companies to take a risk on people without being stuck with them.
I know I do. I’m a team player with a real “can do” attitude and I’m comfortable working with others or autonomously.
I was thinking you are more like this guy.
Or these two
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@mariner4life said in NZ Politics:
Probationary periods are essential when hiring people. Some people interview really well, have great references, but for some reason don't get it, or don't fit, and with how hard it is to manage them out after 6 months, you need that period t make a call.
I get why they are unpopular with employees, it would suck to leave a job, go to a new one, and then not make it there.
But to scrap them altogether is a breathtakingly one-sided piece of legislation. Running a business gets harder every fucking yearMy genius idea on this is to allow it for employers, but only for 1 in 10 or 1 in 20 hires - and you have to report the rate. Then you prevent abuse by employers, and daylight abuse.
Seems so simple, I should be in charge
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@tim said in NZ Politics:
Doesn't everyone vape now anyway?
Ha! 😁
The grand amusement of it all is that the cognoscenti committed to attacking smoking seamlessly switch to excusing marijuana as completely harmless, and dismissing their cocaine and crystal methamphetamine use as "recreational" only, a casual fashionable relaxation after a tough day at the office.
From the little attention I have paid to news reports on this latest distraction by the obsessives it seems New Zealand wants to rescue one group in society more than the other, which seems quite odd.
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@mn5 said in NZ Politics:
@kirwan said in NZ Politics:
@paekakboyz said in NZ Politics:
@kirwan what does that say about their recruitment process? have they been burnt in the past with someone/s that presented well but were shithouse?
Some people interview really well. We've been burned by that in the company I work with, but as it's a US company (which has laws too far the other way) it's easily rectified.
I've worked at compnaies with people that have great CVs, get through a great interview process but are like hiring cancer with all the problems they cause.
IMO, you want a system that allows companies to take a risk on people without being stuck with them.
I know I do. I’m a team player with a real “can do” attitude and I’m comfortable working with others or autonomously.
And your biggest weakness is you work too hard.
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@tim said in NZ Politics:
Doesn't everyone vape now anyway?
By all accounts vaping is goddam awful shit.
Was meant to be the "healthy" alternative to smoking but by all accounts the efficiency by which is delivers the nicotine muster your brain.
Is illegal to buy or sell vapes in QLD.
Know this because a going relative of mine had a run in with this earlier this year.
And yes, all the kids are doing it.
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@booboo said in NZ Politics:
@tim said in NZ Politics:
Doesn't everyone vape now anyway?
By all accounts vaping is goddam awful shit.
Was meant to be the "healthy" alternative to smoking but by all accounts the efficiency by which is delivers the nicotine muster your brain.
Is illegal to buy or sell vapes in QLD.
Know this because a going relative of mine had a run in with this earlier this year.
And yes, all the kids are doing it.
Vaping is actually ministry of health approved but don’t let that get in the way of the propaganda
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