Should the Crusaders change their name?
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It wouldn't surprise me if the opinions of those involved, much like this guy, range from indifference to the crusaders name to support like this guy. I haven't heard the Muslim community come out against it, and I'd assume it's not because they are secretly offended, just that they don't mind. This is a beat up by NZ's mainly white media
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@Kirwan said in Should the Crusaders change their name?:
Peter
So, you would believe that the Christians, the NZ pakeha is… is feeling too much guilt, those who are suggesting that we change the name of the Crusaders are just feeling too much guilt over this incident?
Abdul
Ah, they may be. But ah it’s not their fault. Totally not their fault ...
Thanks for posting that. It’s heartening. This guy gets it. He puts the blame onto the lone wolf psychopath who was responsible and refuses to blame anybody else. There’s a lot of well-paid concern-troll virtue signallers typing op-eds who would do well to clam-up and listen to this guy. Sensible straight talk from Abdul.
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@canefan said in Should the Crusaders change their name?:
It wouldn't surprise me if the opinions of those involved, much like this guy, range from indifference to the crusaders name to support like this guy. I haven't heard the Muslim community come out against it, and I'd assume it's not because they are secretly offended, just that they don't mind. This is a beat up by NZ's mainly white media
Yep, basically monetising the attack for ratings.
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@Salacious-Crumb figured it was worth considering here. Sort of lines up what I’m thinking, which is right minded Muslims don’t care that a rugby team is called the Crusaders.
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@Virgil it’s good someone has leaked it so those piston wristed gibbons can squirm. Nothing a politician fears more than an unpopular decision.
Look at all the hiding they do about the CGT now that polls have come out with 65% against. They are cowards.
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Well the author of the article is certainly getting the desired outcome....
Just heard the CE of the crusaders on the radio - said this was untrue, that was then backed up by messages out of the PM's office and from minister of sport. They all said no truth to it - Govt is leaving this to the Crusaders and NZ rugby. The CE did not waffle at all about it - he was cut and dried about zero influence and that they have their process to follow.
So we can take it that all involved are lying and rely on the 'sources close to the crusaders say X' that there is heat coming from the Govt to dictate the outcome, or accept that someones bullshitting for clicks... interesting its one of those articles that doesn't have an authors name on it...
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and I get that of course they would deny any pressure etc. But this does come across as bullshit - and it flies in the face of how things have been handled by all involved to date imo.
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@Paekakboyz said in Should the Crusaders change their name?:
and I get that of course they would deny any pressure etc. But this does come across as bullshit - and it flies in the face of how things have been handled by all involved to date imo.
Does it? The govt have been incredibly active in attacking freedoms since the attack.
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Well someone is not telling the truth.
Given Tew has come out with the "untenable" statement it would lend weight to the "already been decided argument", as much as "unnnamed sources" are an argument against the alternative.
Personally I'm inclined to believe that there is pressure from high places.
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This is what I meant when I said this issue is at best divisive and will only build resentment towards Muslims, most of whom do not even care about the name of a bloody rugby team.
And it all started from media reporting anonymous twitter SJWs for clicks. There is nothing to be gained from this, and plenty to lose.
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@No-Quarter said in Should the Crusaders change their name?:
This is what I meant when I said this issue is at best divisive and will only build resentment towards Muslims, most of whom do not even care about the name of a bloody rugby team.
And it all started from media reporting anonymous twitter SJWs for clicks. There is nothing to be gained from this, and plenty to lose.
“The clubs name has become a toxic symbol for many” really ? Who, who says it’s toxic?
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@SammyC said in Should the Crusaders change their name?:
Got a bunch of Facebook friends sharing the petition online.
Funny how they care so much about this, but don’t care enough to ever attend an actual game.
Because this looks like an actual contest
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.Mine is the red and black jacket with no name on it.