Coronavirus - New Zealand
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so when do expect the press conference
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@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Godder It's what I would expect . Given the virulence of the new strains and the apathy around using QR codes I expect that unlike August contact tracing wouldn't be able to cope with the exponential spread of the new COVID. Therefore if govt is to be consistent we would have to go to L4 - ideally with immediate effect.
Whether people would be as obedient in the height of summer is a very moot point.
Its why we should stop pussy footing around and make using the QR Code mandatory with hefty fines for both individuals and businesses for non compliance.
People can debate the benefit of NZ's elimination strategy as much as they like but we are committed to it's continuance - unless we want to throw away all the suffereing of the last 10 months.
Yes, 100% agree. Surely you guys only need to look at what's going on here and appreciate that the hardcore response is the right one. If you get an outbreak now it effectively unwinds all the hard work / lost freedoms.
Too late for any of that here now.
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@Tim said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Donsteppa Interesting question as to how much they can push for access, and whether they're waiting for more efficacy data before pushing for certain vaccines.
The lesson from Europe is to order a decent batch (I'd say Pfizer, Oxford or Moderna) in advance and then spend the delay until delivery honing logisitics. That is easier said than done with Pfizer version.
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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
so when do expect the press conference
The 'UK' variant is all through Europe and in US.
Dodge that!
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Waiting to hit up my boss on these rumours. His wife is high up in medical response/strategy team for Covid. His quality of sauce has been impeccable to date.
But I agree with the sentiments that we should seriously be looking at travel from these hotspots. Especially as our vaccinations are yet to begin. -
I give these sort of rumours little credence. It would be political suicide for the government to know of community transmission and not lock down immediately. The transmission rate is so high even 24 hours delay would be catastrophic and the fact the govt had sat on their hands would come out.
That's not the same as saying its definitely not out there - but short of the rumours being based on someone going "psst I've got COVID but I'm not getting tested - don't tell anyone" how would anyone know?
If we do go back into lockdown it's going to be ugly. I'm sure we all know people who don't have the resilience for a third episode.
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@Bovidae said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Its why we should stop pussy footing around and make using the QR Code mandatory with hefty fines for both individuals and businesses for non compliance.
I've scanned a QR code three times today, the last at a supermarket. There were a number people who walked straight in at the supermarket. My point is that the businesses have the QR codes displayed at the door so it is up to individuals to use them.
I agree with Michael Baker in that NZ should stop all flights that have passengers coming from high risk countries (UK, SA, India and USA).
Difficult to do. Can put in stricter requirements (as they have) and make things as difficult as fuck but you can't make a bunch of NZers stateless if their visas overseas run out and you have blocked them from returning.
Stopping unnecessary travel may be a better option to reduce risk. Cut the numbers and the chances of a 'mistake' decrease with less frontline workers potentially exposed. -
@dogmeat agreed, if they knew there was something in the community, but delayed and then put us into Lockdown...well, we seen the US POlitics thread
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@dogmeat last time they had a minor outbreak they were able to stamp it out fast using contact tracing and minimal disruption to the country. I would expect no less next time as a new strain has little difference to the old one for us because we never had a widespread outbreak of covid 19 #1. As you say a lockdown would not go down well with the people
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@canefan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@dogmeat last time they had a minor outbreak they were able to stamp it out fast using contact tracing and minimal disruption to the country. I would expect no less next time as a new strain has little difference to the old one for us because we never had a widespread outbreak of covid 19 #1. As you say a lockdown would not go down well with the people
Exactly this. If it is true, then they are going to try and trace it and stamp it out before any drastic action is taken. Which seems sensible to me.
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@canefan contact tracing is easier when more people use the app, not many are using it presently.
You'd think after that court thing in Hamilton last week or whenever, it'd give people a scare, but apparently not.
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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@canefan contact tracing is easier when more people use the app, not many are using it presently.
You'd think after that court thing in Hamilton last week or whenever, it'd give people a scare, but apparently not.
Sorry, missed that (or can't remember). Can you elaborate?
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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@canefan contact tracing is easier when more people use the app, not many are using it presently.
You'd think after that court thing in Hamilton last week or whenever, it'd give people a scare, but apparently not.
Yup, compliance is low right now. We are ripe for an outbreak right now
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@booboo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@canefan contact tracing is easier when more people use the app, not many are using it presently.
You'd think after that court thing in Hamilton last week or whenever, it'd give people a scare, but apparently not.
Sorry, missed that (or can't remember). Can you elaborate?
Woman escaped court with covid19 test result pending
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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@canefan contact tracing is easier when more people use the app, not many are using it presently.
Got to admit to forgetting a lot of the time. It's just not always all that obvious.
I remember at the supermarket but smaller shops that I have frequented for years I just wander in as usual unless I walk into the Covid QR code on a plinth or something.
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@Snowy said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@canefan contact tracing is easier when more people use the app, not many are using it presently.
Got to admit to forgetting a lot of the time. It's just not always all that obvious.
I remember at the supermarket but smaller shops that I have frequented for years I just wander in as usual unless I walk into the Covid QR code on a plinth or something.
I'll put my hand up and say I don't ever remember. When we are in Auckland, Mrs Hooroo does so when we go to a restaurant but that is about it.