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So a couple of things:
Shotgun wedding!
2nd, she was likely pregnant when she won the election, so did she advise her employers of this? Did she dodge the media questions?
haha, all seriousness, probably not the best thing to do at this time, but maybe they had been trying for a few years??
I expect that will endear her to a heap of people who didn't vote for her and piss of some who did.
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@taniwharugby timing looks right for conception on election night ...
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@majorrage yeah somewhere around there...
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She knew 6 days before becoming PM I believe. Probably wanted to get through the first trimester before announcing, which is fair enough.
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@no-quarter bet she told Winny as part of the coalition negotiations
And lets not forget one of the first things they put through, increase Maternity period for employees
haha, cynical cnuts here!
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@majorrage said in NZ Politics:
I'm actually genuinely really happy for her. I hope she gets the chance to cherish it and enjoy it.
Do I have reservations ... ?
If I do I hope she proves me wrong.
I'm always happy for people that announce pregnancy. If you're looking for the meaning of life, well having kids is one of the most meaningful things you can do. There's a massive difference between immediate pleasure/happiness and long-term meaning/purpose. Western society is too geared towards valuing immediate pleasure over everything else, which can lead to bitterness and resentfulness later in life as people search for that purpose or meaning. Chelsea Handler is an extreme example of that, she's flapping around looking for purpose as she realises her career doesn't provide that, and she is too old to have children, so she's trying to turn her attention towards political activism and comes across as extremely unhappy and resentful.
Obvious reservations with Winnie being in charge, which will be shared by more than 90% of NZers, but you'd have to be a miserable bastard to not wish them all the best.
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@no-quarter yep, as above, you can question the timing, but who knows whether they had been trying for months/years and been unsuccessful, I know a couple had been trying for 12 years, gave up, sold everything and went for a campervan trip round the south island, got pregnant!
My wife got pregnant straight away for TR Jnr, but we took 6 months to get pregnant for #2.
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@taniwharugby said in NZ Politics:
but we took 6 months to get pregnant for #2.
Not that you would have been complaining about the process...
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Congratulations to Jacinda and her bloke. I don't like her politics at all, but she has ticked off two incredible achievements within a few weeks of each other. She is in for a tremendously challenging time and I hope she copes and thrives. She is facing being a first time mum while travelling and working long and demanding hours and the most public job in the country.
I can certainly foresee an excruciating level amount of media interest in her pregnancy and motherhood as PM - the level of interest will eclipse John Key's private life many times over. Every move she makes as an expectant mother and mother will be scrutinised like Kate Middleton. She is well and truly a celebrity PM now.
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I have no love for Ardern and her policies, but she has my sympathies for what lies ahead. Difficult enough for women in top leadership positions at the best of times, because there are ALWAYS the fuckwits who want to make it about the marital status or the womb status or how can you possibly be a good mother if you GASP work, as if the dad has no responsibility in parenting at all. And now the media are going to be stalking her for coochy coo baby boo stories rather than govt and policy which will be truly excruciating.
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I have nothing negative to say about a Prime Minister becoming pregnant. She's in a relationship and at the age where you'd expect her to be considering it. She's also capable (outside of medical issues) of working most of her pregnancy.
I don't see how it's an achievement. There's seven and a half billion people on earth.
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Well I'm going to go against the grain here and say she knowingly lied to New Zealand and left us in a situation where are left with a functional alcoholic PM who only received 8% of the popular vote.
It's unfair to New Zealand, its unfair to her baby and is unfair to Ardern herself. I'm not saying she can't do it, by any means, but the actual reality of what she is proposing to do may prove far different from the lovely bubblegum fantasyland progressive ideals of many of her supporters.
Happy to be proved wrong though and I really do wish her all the best. I hope we don't have any national emergency in this time and things go as well as the possibly can do.
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@antipodean I should clarify my description of her "achievement". It is indeed an achievement for a person to become their country's leader. I agree it is not an achievement for a woman to breed, but rather I am referring to the historical significance of her being, I believe, the first woman to give birth to her FIRST child while leading a country. Benazir Bhutto appears to have been the first modern female leader to have a baby in office, but it was her second child (big difference between first and subsequent children).
She will doubtless be celebrated for this worldwide for eternity (unless the patriarchy can erase the history books) for this achievement.
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I hope everything goes well for them but stuff and the ferald will be unbearable in the coverage of this. It’s the closest thing to a royal birth in nz they’ll ever get. Hopefully Ardern tells them to fuck off early in the piece although she won’t be able to help herself from trotting the kid out in front of the cameras for pr purposes.
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@jegga said in NZ Politics:
I hope everything goes well for them but stuff and the ferald will be unbearable in the coverage of this. It’s the closest thing to a royal birth in nz they’ll ever get. Hopefully Ardern tells them to fuck off early in the piece although she won’t be able to help herself from trotting the kid out in front of the cameras for pr purposes.
Mallard cradling the Prime Ministerial PÄ“pi in the debating chamber may just send me over the edge.
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@smudge said in NZ Politics:
@jegga said in NZ Politics:
I hope everything goes well for them but stuff and the ferald will be unbearable in the coverage of this. It’s the closest thing to a royal birth in nz they’ll ever get. Hopefully Ardern tells them to fuck off early in the piece although she won’t be able to help herself from trotting the kid out in front of the cameras for pr purposes.
Mallard cradling the Prime Ministerial PÄ“pi in the debating chamber may just send me over the edge.
Channel your inner Guy Fawkes for the good of the country.
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