Dad advice sharing thread.
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Lots of great advice in here.
Had a wee chat over breakfast about the tournament where he kicked a kid. I talked about all the good things he did at that tournament. He bought up the kid he kicked. Went over how there is a difference between being told off and being taught something, and that no we know you can't do that. But you can still do tackles and not get told off.
We have another tournament this week. His home one. So we will do more work on skills this week and more tackling, which like you have all said is never a problem against the old man. But will stop pushing it at the matches and let him find his own way there.
Thanks for the advice.
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@dk said in Dad advice sharing thread.:
when I was a young my dad got us to tackle him. He would show us that no matter the size correct technique would bring down the bigger target. This gave my bro and I lot's of confidence tackling. We also played a lot of Bull Rush (1970's) which helped a lot with technique and confidence
Taught my son (now 24) how to tackle and get satisfaction from it in bringing the bigger guy down. Once he got this in his head and tried it a few times (with a few bruises too along the way), he got into it in a big way, sometimes too much. We went on a club tour to France where due to a mix up in age grades, the opposing Frogs were Shermans to our more modest offspring. Didn’t stop young fella who threw himself into the task with relish. Eventually, he got carried off in games with a dislocation a couple of times but got lots of respect.
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@jk said in Dad advice sharing thread.:
Im involved in taking training for my boys team and bullrush is a staple for us. At least 10mins worth every training session.
Good to hear that. It was banned at my school when I was a lad following a spate of broken limbs.
That was after they pulled down our flying fox for the same reason.
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@jk said in Dad advice sharing thread.:
Im involved in taking training for my boys team and bullrush is a staple for us. At least 10mins worth every training session.
yea, i coach my eldest's team, the last 10 minutes of every training is bullrush, always has been. best game ever
even though i was one of the smallest kids when we used to play, so i got hammered. Like a lot.
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I remember taking extra clothing to school to cover for the inevitable ripped shirt during lunchtime bull-rush. Good times!!
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@paekakboyz said in Dad advice sharing thread.:
I remember taking extra clothing to school to cover for the inevitable ripped shirt during lunchtime bull-rush. Good times!!
mum used to stich mine back together. lunch time league did for more than bullrush i think. Our lunchtime league games were brutal.
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@mariner4life that's another thing, early on I played rugby on Saturday and league on Sunday, and also my boys rugby team did that for a season too, league being the way it is allows more opportunities ot make tackles.
Although the kids hated the 2 passes from dummy half so no one wanted to play dummy or be first receiver haha
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@mariner4life said in Dad advice sharing thread.:
@paekakboyz said in Dad advice sharing thread.:
I remember taking extra clothing to school to cover for the inevitable ripped shirt during lunchtime bull-rush. Good times!!
mum used to stich mine back together. lunch time league did for more than bullrush i think. Our lunchtime league games were brutal.
At high school our league games got pointless as no matter who started the game everyone would just join in and it would wind up being 30 on 30 across ways on the field. My mates and I started going to the edge of the field in the hope that all the lazy buggers could't be bothered walking out that far.
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@nepia said in Dad advice sharing thread.:
@mariner4life said in Dad advice sharing thread.:
@paekakboyz said in Dad advice sharing thread.:
I remember taking extra clothing to school to cover for the inevitable ripped shirt during lunchtime bull-rush. Good times!!
mum used to stich mine back together. lunch time league did for more than bullrush i think. Our lunchtime league games were brutal.
At high school our league games got pointless as no matter who started the game everyone would just join in and it would wind up being 30 on 30 across ways on the field. My mates and I started going to the edge of the field in the hope that all the lazy buggers could't be bothered walking out that far.
ours were similar. Or smaller games would merge in to big games. And someone would invariably get fucked up.
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@paekakboyz I remember discussions with mum about clip studs under the shirt buttons to alleviate hertask of sewing buttons back on every night.
Good times
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Man, lost my fav hypercolour t-shirt during a particularly brutal session. Probably for the best looking back on it!!
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I vividly remember getting through an intense BullRush session when I was six and as we were walking back to class, I was with my mate rex who was shorter than me and I said something like 'good game shorty' to which he replied "i'm not short" and judo flipped me and broke my collar bone! He then pleaded for me 'not to tell'. He was a mate so all good. I must have had a good complex mind back then
It was never the bullrush that was dangerous!
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I know right!
This one lunchtime whilst doing Dungeons and Dragons the Chess club guys starting talking trash to us so I was like totally " know you are said you are but what am I?". They backed down. Checkmate bitches. -
@baron-silas-greenback that's not what chess club told me.
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Farken cracked it on the weekend with the pre match pep talk. Always try give the lad a bit of a rev up on the way to the game and try and inspire him to put in a good performance.
Usually its very much "do this", 'don't do that' sorta stuff and basically telling him to make sure he gets involved and not swan about in the backs. This week I was crapping on (pretty much all I do) to him about leaving everything out on the field in terms of his effort. I said "if you were to sit back and watch a replay of the game, how would you want to feel about how you played? What would you want to see?" Immediately he said that he would want to feel proud of his efforts and not be seen to be slacking off. I said "That's a good idea Phin, make yourself proud of your performance"
Well what a game, 4 tries and could have been 5 (just touched the sideline apparently). 14 tackles, multiple good runs, clean passing and catching, lots of support. It really was something to behold. He knew it to. When he came off at the end of the game he gave me one of those smiling nods (kinda led by the chin and eye brows at the same time), you know the one. He was chuffed and quite frankly so was I. Only cost me $4.80 too in performance payments.
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@JK bro that is awesome. Well done Phin!
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ha my boy picked up an injury trying to tackle the biggest kid in the other team (who was basically my size sans a few kgs)
He did say to me on the drive home it was kinda his fault as he saw the big guy coming at him and he hesitated and then didn't fully commit...I told him it was also just bad luck and these things happen.
So the size thing does make it a bit more interesting though. This team was BIG, a country team who had 3 kids who had been both age and weight dispensated (must be 12 on Jan 1 and under 70kg) our only dispensated kid missed out because he was born a month before 1 Jan, and is 37kg, our biggest kid is 62kg.
If those boys hadn't been dispensated for the club, they wouldn't be able to play this season as their club didn't have the team up the age group for them.
We have a few decent sized kids, but nothing like these boys, and it becomes quite intimidating and no amount of 'bigger they are harder they fall' type talks makes much difference.
With 10 to go we were down by 5 I think, then 2 of our bigger boys had to come off, which is where the intimidation thing happens as the other kids look to these guys lining up alongside them and gives them confidence, but as soon as they were off the field, psychologically, the big boys in the opposition seemed that much bigger and they scored 3 tries in 5 mins.
This other team hasn't lost yet, probably wont, we lost 31-19, but the boys were pretty well beaten physically and mentally after this one, that will be what training this week will be about, picking them up.
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@mariner4life said in Dad advice sharing thread.:
@paekakboyz said in Dad advice sharing thread.:
I remember taking extra clothing to school to cover for the inevitable ripped shirt during lunchtime bull-rush. Good times!!
mum used to stich mine back together. lunch time league did for more than bullrush i think. Our lunchtime league games were brutal.
You jersey-grabbing bogan leaguie, North Island motherfuckers.
No-one at my school ever got ripped clothing - we would have been thrashed by the Headmaster - not for wrecking people's clothes but for poor tackling technique.
Hit them hard with the shoulder - just above the knee - with a bit of luck they'll also get a dead leg and be unable to run for five minutes.
Little Canterbury automatons were we.
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@taniwharugby said in Dad advice sharing thread.:
ha my boy picked up an injury trying to tackle the biggest kid in the other team (who was basically my size sans a few kgs)
He did say to me on the drive home it was kinda his fault as he saw the big guy coming at him and he hesitated and then didn't fully commit...I told him it was also just bad luck and these things happen.
So the size thing does make it a bit more interesting though. This team was BIG, a country team who had 3 kids who had been both age and weight dispensated (must be 12 on Jan 1 and under 70kg) our only dispensated kid missed out because he was born a month before 1 Jan, and is 37kg, our biggest kid is 62kg.
If those boys hadn't been dispensated for the club, they wouldn't be able to play this season as their club didn't have the team up the age group for them.
We have a few decent sized kids, but nothing like these boys, and it becomes quite intimidating and no amount of 'bigger they are harder they fall' type talks makes much difference.
With 10 to go we were down by 5 I think, then 2 of our bigger boys had to come off, which is where the intimidation thing happens as the other kids look to these guys lining up alongside them and gives them confidence, but as soon as they were off the field, psychologically, the big boys in the opposition seemed that much bigger and they scored 3 tries in 5 mins.
This other team hasn't lost yet, probably wont, we lost 31-19, but the boys were pretty well beaten physically and mentally after this one, that will be what training this week will be about, picking them up.
My son's team don't have a gram of fat on them and it's basically impossible to separate backs from forwards. It's straight out bizarre. They all look exactly the same, just some slight differences in height. Makes it very difficult against bigger teams, particularly in the scrums. They're a well drilled team and have some good players but I think it might be a long season.
A scrum was driven back and collapsed on the weekend and for a second there I thought my son had a neck injury. Luckily it was just a strain (chicken winged). But damn it's scary when that shit happens. Would never let him near the front row.
