Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****

NTA

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Why was Jabba so into Leia when I'm pretty certain he didn't have any genitals ?
 
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Probably the same train of thought going through any chick you tried to chat up in a nightclub.

MN5

Naaaa they all had genitals. I checked.

mariner4life

Sticky out genitals and everything

Catogrande

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="jegga" data-cid="438688" data-time="1404198720">Rolf? Harsh words there pal, he's one seedy little Aussie .</blockquote>And Rolf's not much better IMO.

Baxymoron

As for new characters, I would like to see a badass Jedi with suave calmness of Obi Wan. Basically, I want a James Bond Jedi. He should also be an alien with some interesting biology.
 
Or a badass Sith who wavers between good and bad to the point that he is nearly a lovable villian.
 
And some epic Jedi v Sith battles choreographed by Jackie Chan.

MN5

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As for new characters, I would like to see a badass Jedi with suave calmness of Obi Wan. Basically, I want a James Bond Jedi. He should also be an alien with some interesting biology.
 
Or a badass Sith who wavers between good and bad to the point that he is nearly a lovable villian.
 
And some epic Jedi v Sith battles choreographed by Jackie Chan.
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To be fair Obi and Annie did a bit less jumping around the second time they met. The fight took place in about 5 square metres with fuck all movement from either of them as opposed to backflips over areas the size of several football fields.

gollum

Having read Iain M Banks Culture novels, where all spaceships are flown by super intelligent computers, my MASSIVE issue is -
<ul><li>For Â£20k I can buy a Ford Focus than can parrenel park itself,</li>
<li>for Â£40k I can get a Volvo that can do that & will auto break if I'm driving at 30mph & would have hit something.</li>
<li>Google have a car that has clocked up 300,000km self driving without a problem. We can't currently put man on mars.</li>
</ul>In the SW universe they have faster than light travel, laser weapons, can fully remake lost limbs and have droids that can converse fully as a human, yet they MANUALLY fly through an asteroid field.
 
Realistically its very very unlikely that anyone will manually be driving to the shops within 50 years, and yet these guys manually pilot space ships. Rationally, thats utter fucking bullshit.

MN5

Well Star Wars does portray Sci Fi in a much more cheerful way than say, the Alien series, those poor fuckers had to sleep in pods for years and hope something didn't burst out of their chests when they awoke !
 
In terms of manual flying Han only did it to get in Leias pants.
 
It worked.

mariner4life

Star Wars is about the wars side of things. if you want science, go watch Star Trek.

gollum

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Star Wars is about the wars side of things. if you want science, go watch Star Trek. 
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They pilot their own ships there too.
 
It really never occured to me at all till I read the Culture series & then watched a TV show about google cars... now its one of those "once you've seen it" things where I can't watch anyone flying a star ship at light speed manually & not think "I'm pretty sure google will have an app for that" At least in Dune they had an explantation - the machine wars, same with the Matrix, where it was obvious why super intelligent machines did not fly things.
 
Its like when you watch a movie with giant insects after finding out that the are physically impossible.
 
I can suspend disbelief re the force, vulcan mind melds, dragons, wookies etc its the simple stuff that we actually have in our universe that is a struggle. Its like after watching Gravity its very hard to see someone in space take off their helmet & explode, or see an explosion & hear it. In space. In a vacum. Its totally possible there are giant slug beasts that are criminal masterminds somewhere in the universe, but when shit explodes it space you don't hear the boom, and any civillisation that has hyper intelligent droids & faster than light travel is not parking their own space ships or letting humans manually fly out of trillion dollar space docks with 20 foot of clearance on each side...
 
Theres a great bit in The Hydrogen Sonata where there's a huge space battle & the ship is watching it with a human & the ship goes "ooh! I like this bit!" & then human goes ? & the ship laughs & goes "Ha! you didn't think this was real time did you? This whole battle took 2 nanoseconds, I've slowed the recording down so you can watch".

Kirwan

Sounds like tem Morrison has been cast as Boba Fett, and that has a release date of 2016. Wonder if that's a voice gig, and he's not removing the helmet? Or we see him escape the Pitt, and it's much later on.

Kirwan

Gollum, they do use computers for piloting. Often. Calculating hyperspace jumps and auto pilot, for example. C3PO tells Han the odds against navigating manually in the asteroid field, but he's doing it to evade the Imperial Fleet. So is intentionally doing something crazy, and unpredictable. Whether a computer could navigate it, even with Star Wars tech, would depend on what sensors the ships had and the processing power the ship had. Considering it's described as a hunk of junk, it might only have google car highway only auto pilot ability. End nerd response here.

Hooroo

Are we still talking about actors and cameras? 
Its.not.real

Kirwan

But it says at the beginning 'a long time time ago, in a galaxy far, far away' so it's clearly a documentary reenactment. Fact.

MN5

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Are we still talking about actors and cameras? 
Its.not.real
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Go away Hooroo. Go and talk elections on the other thread.

Baxymoron

- Physics defying intergallactic hyperdrive: check
 
- state of the art force field and laser system: check
 
- clunky 1970s headset that you have to hold to speak into (with cords): check
 
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canefan

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Hooroo" data-cid="438917" data-time="1404420894">Are we still talking about actors and cameras?Its.not.real</blockquote>Nice. When did Star Wars go from being entertainment to a reality show?

gollum

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Nice. When did Star Wars go from being entertainment to a reality show?
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I get that, but its hard, for example, to watch a TV show set in 2012 where they don't have maps on their phones, cause that basic fricking tech for us. As I said, the big stuff its REALLY easy to suspend disbelief - ie giant slug beasts, even hyperdrives, its the little bits like soiund in space that are hard. Same with all fantasy, Dragons? No problem, being able fire a bow 2000m? Um, no... that I don't get.
 
Same with Gravity, the hyge step there was the idea that you could jet pack from the ISS to the Chinese one, thats a massive no way, but because every small thing was right people went, OK, I'll forgive you the whopper. 
 
Entertainment needs to have at least a grounding in reality, you wouldn't watch a cop show where they regularly picked up fired bullets & used them to reload with. Or a hospital show where they did a lung transplant by opening up a random dead guy, grabbed his lungs stuffed them in a chest cavity, squirted in super glue & went "CLEAR! whew! that was a close one!". ER had a series of REEEALLY unlikely plots, but they were close enough, then Romanos arm fell off & half the audience went "Ok, I'm out".
 
A lot of movies have been raved about for their accuracy Gravity, Saving Private Ryan, Even Alien became a cult hit because it was so "real" as opposed to the over the top schlock. Audiences are much more discerning now than they were years ago, especially in the nerd-i-verse. Theres an entire website explaining how the winters might work in Game of Thrones for example, ie a lot of the core audience actually give a shit re the length of the winter... even Dani's arse cannot distract them.

canefan

I guess, especially with regard to the original trilogy, you need to realise you are watching films made in the late 70s and early 80s. That and the fact that those films were kind of like knights and battles but transplanted into some futuristic past. It's hard for me to be unbiased because I grew up with Episode 4-7. But it seemed like those films when released did not depend solely on the sci fi tech they boasted but were just as much about relationships of the characters, compared to Episodes 1-3 for me were all about SFX but had much poorer characters and character development.

Crucial

Why are you all commenting like these movies aren't real.

The Silver Fern

Star Wars VII contains spoilers