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I'm honestly confused by wtf is going on.
The political shenanigans are the primary driver with the details being secondary.Where it appears to have landed (so far) is an interim situation so that May can declare that she triggered the exit as per the wishes of the people but has now negotiated a much longer period to actually make change.
On the face of it this is reasonable as they had no plan, no idea and no research/ analysis done when the vote came in.Looking back, the sensible and logical thing to do would have been to accept the result, tell the voters that this is going to require careful planning and put the EU on notice that once the UK had worked out what it actually wanted
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@crucial Looking back, the sensible and logical thing to do would be ensure the people on the leave side actually have some sort of actual plan as to how the exit would work without fucking over the country and causing years of angst. Oh yeah, and not let all those who created this clusterfuck just skip away and leave others to try and salvage something from the ruins.
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@crucial Looking back, the sensible and logical thing to do would be ensure the people on the leave side actually have some sort of actual plan as to how the exit would work without fucking over the country and causing years of angst. Oh yeah, and not let all those who created this clusterfuck just skip away and leave others to try and salvage something from the ruins.
You're right, but that horse bolted immediately, sad to say.
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@crucial Looking back, the sensible and logical thing to do would be ensure the people on the leave side actually have some sort of actual plan as to how the exit would work without fucking over the country and causing years of angst. Oh yeah, and not let all those who created this clusterfuck just skip away and leave others to try and salvage something from the ruins.
That's what I was getting at.
IMO all the referendum decided was that the people of the UK would like to leave the EU.
All the govt had to say is 'ok, we can make that happen but it will take quite a bit of planning so we are in a strong position to negotiate terms with both the EU and future trading partners'
But no, the political wrangling reared straight up with the leave side saying 'the people want this and that' and continuing the ludicrous stance that the UK could just give Europe the finger and walk off. These were the same people that declared that the UK would be instantly better off by the tune of 100s of millions of pounds a week. A fee of ÂŁ37.5b later and they are only at the point of negotiating room to work out the things they had room to do at the start.As much as May cops a lot of well deserved flak, you have to admire her steadfastness and survival skills if nothing else. It was just a stupid referendum and even more stupid initial handling (that led to a crazy election).
If this very left wing Labour walks into power simply because they don't have to make the decisions and therefore look a bit better the people deserve what they get (endless transport strikes for a start)
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Does make me wonder what a hindsight referendum would say, especially considering how much bullshit was spouted before it took place regarding benefits and costs and risks etc by certain personalities involved who have long since sailed off into the sunset.
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Does make me wonder what a hindsight referendum would say, especially considering how much bullshit was spouted before it took place regarding benefits and costs and risks etc by certain personalities involved who have long since sailed off into the sunset.
Trouble is that the question is now more complicated. There is no way a simple re-run of the same question will take place so it begs to be decided what a question would say.
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Jacob Rees Mogg
When a man with his wealth chooses to wear a suit which would look baggy on Pavarotti then you know we're in trouble.
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Baldrick named as new Brexit Secretary
November 15, 2018
Written by Lucas WildeIn the wake up several high-profile cabinet resignations, Theresa May has made her most sensible choice for a cabinet Minister yet.
Baldrick has been named the new Brexit Secretary, having displayed exceptional ability for cunning plans in seemingly desperate situations between the 15th and 20th centuries.
âThis is definitely a step in the right direction for Brexit,â agreed political pundit, Simon Williams.
âGovernment insiders are already claiming that Baldrickâs cunning mind will prove to be invaluable when it comes to navigating Brexit, managing the economy and finding out exactly what the hell to do about everyoneâs bins once we leave the EU.
âWhen your team already contains people like Michael Gove, adding Baldrick to the cabinet certainly adds some intellectual heft to the organisation â Iâm sure the EU is keeping an eye on the developments.
âThe appointment may seem a little out of left field, but keep in mind the last Brexit Secretary didnât actually know what the English Channel was for.â
Not everyone was in agreement about the positive aspects of the appointment of the new Brexit Secretary.
Business leader Edmund Blackadder, said, âI donât want to be unkind to Baldrick, but he makes it so terribly difficult to praise him.
âWith that in mind, I have to say this is the worst appointment since my great-grandfather booked in for a short back and sides at Sweeney Toddâs Barber Shop.â
Baldrick said, âThank you, Mr B, for those kind words.
âAnyway, I look forward to being Breakfast Secretary and Iâm keen to get started right away. Who wants eggs?â
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@mikethesnow said in Brexit:
Jacob Rees Mogg
When a man with his wealth chooses to wear a suit which would look baggy on Pavarotti then you know we're in trouble.
Cometh the hour cometh the man
Uh huh, Yeah you go girl! snap snap snap
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Lets be honest the biggest fluffybunnies in the room are the EU wankstains. They are demanding that Britain sign a deal that they cannot get out of without EU permission? Forever?
Fuck off
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@baron-silas-greenback 100% and the absolute cancer of British media won't show that.
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