Censorship and the Mosque Shooting
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@Rembrandt said in Censorship and the Mosque Shooting:
@Kirwan said in Censorship and the Mosque Shooting:
So I see on Reddit that Telstra in Oz have blocked 4chan, 8chan and Liveleak. Interestingly, not Facebook where he streamed the damn thing.
Also Zerohedge & Dissenter (NZ only) who aren't hosting it and Bitchute who is a competitor to youtube and if it was put up I would be pretty certain would take it down quick..I'd check but on a work computer so can't right now.
Just like the synagogue attack where the terrorist had a Gab account so they removed Gab off of the internet..but weirdly kept facebook and twitter active despite him having accounts there which also had similar racist rantings.
Considering facebook and twitter's part in sharing the video & inflaming the culture war with how their systems are moderated its all pretty galling.
Feels more like anti-competitive behaviour to me.
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@Kirwan yeah I believe it is. Facebook and twitter are dying but are the big guys still. By branding competitors as racists and having payment processors refuse service on alternative platforms they then get to stem the tide of people moving away from them.
Bitchute is particularly BS. They have moderation already, I use it from time to time as Youtube has been going insane with their algorithm to the point of where you can't find what you want unless its hosted by The New York time, THe guardian, CNN etc. They also have the ability to automatically back up your videos from Youtube onto it so a lot of creators are running through both for fear of Youtubes next censorship blitz. They have every chance of becoming what youtube used to be liked for.
Of course now certain morons out there on twitter and facebook will reference any share I have had on bitchute and say "See he uses a platform for white supremacists that was so bad it had to be banned!"
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@Rembrandt said in Censorship and the Mosque Shooting:
@Kirwan yeah I believe it is. Facebook and twitter are dying but are the big guys still. >
I am always interested in hearing this. If facebook is "dying" what is slowly taking its place? I genuinely don't know
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@Hooroo The younger generation are using it far less frequently with Instagram and Snapchat preferred platforms. Minds.com is a great alternative and I think there is another called memo which works on the blockchain (I don't understand how it works). These platforms are more resistant to the privacy & censorship issues that facebook has been causing.
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Fuck, where does this sit?
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12214455
I saw about 4-5 seconds at work on Friday before I knew wtf was going on. Noped out as soon as it dawned on me it wasn't real. Had already let my boss know but how does it work in terms of retrospective application of the law?
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I have a problem with firing people for watching or sharing a real world event. I don't like that sort of sheltering from an actual event.
Sure up to each individual if they wish to view reality but don't like someone stopping others from orientating myself in the real world and learning what people and nature are capable of.
Ostrich burying it's head in the sand, to reference a metaphor
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This part is concerning
"It is an offence to share this material as soon as it is produced, and the timing of the official classification does not affect the ability for police and enforcement agencies to prosecute offences under the Films, Videos & Publications Classification Act 1993, Shanks says."
So you can be prosecuted for something that wasn't a crime when you did it. Am I reading that right?
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@Rembrandt said in Censorship and the Mosque Shooting:
So you can be prosecuted for something that wasn't a crime when you did it. Am I reading that right?
It means a snuff film/kiddie porn/torture/pro terrorism films can be considered illegal even if the government has got around to classifying the specific video yet.
It's a crime immediately, not after the fact
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@Duluth @Rembrandt from my perspective there's the precedent setting around the live stream nature of this content. Did we know 100% it was real, or exactly what was going on when clicking in. Were people aware that this sort of thing would end up illegal when previously you could reach mainstream sites (reddit, youtube) that show some pretty grim stuff, some of which would be classed as (non-NZ related) terrorism etc.
There were some comments in that article about people being aghast at colleagues 'watching it on the job' - where does that sit versus watching at lunch or anyone using company internet to watch anything non-work related?
Have to admit I am nervous, but my boss wasn't worried in the slightest when we spoke about it.
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Really you guys? No offense but this is entirely predictable and will only get worse in the years to come. The fact you are shocked just shows you really havent believed those of us warning about increased censorship.
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To lighten the mood
You can still buy Mein Kampf from Whitcoulls....